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 Post subject: Steelers Rumored to Exercise Bud Dupree's 5th-Year Contract
PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:24 am 
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2765 ... act-option

The Pittsburgh Steelers will keep linebacker Bud Dupree through at least the 2019 season after they reportedly picked up his fifth-year option Monday.

Ian Rapoport of NFL Network reported the news.

Pittsburgh selected Dupree in the first round of the 2015 NFL draft out of Kentucky, and he has developed into a solid part of its pass-rushing rotation. According to Spotrac, his rookie contract was worth four years and more than $9 million running from 2015 through 2018 with this fifth-year option available for the 2019 campaign.

Dupree dealt with injuries and played just seven games in 2016 after he showed flashes as a rookie with four sacks but appeared to turn the corner when he was healthy again in 2017.




He tallied career-high totals with 40 combined tackles, six sacks and a fumble recovery and helped the Steelers win the AFC North in his third year.

While he has always been a steady pass-rusher considering he has at least four sacks in each of his first three years but never more than the six in 2017, Pittsburgh was surely encouraged by his progress and ability to stay on the field this past season.

That statistical improvement suggests the potential for a breakout showing is still there, especially considering the pace of 4.5 sacks in seven games he posted in 2016 translates to a monster season if he can replicate it for 16 games. There is also the question of linebacker depth with Ryan Shazier's long-term status still something of a question mark after suffering a serious spinal injury.

Dupree will be just 26 years old throughout the 2019 season, and the Steelers are banking on his continued progression with this move


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 Post subject: Re: Steelers Rumored to Exercise Bud Dupree's 5th-Year Contr
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Interesting. Not out of the realm of possibility considering lack of depth, but it's an expensive bet, to be sure.


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 Post subject: Re: Steelers Rumored to Exercise Bud Dupree's 5th-Year Contr
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Depends what his salary cap hit will be in 2019. Is it just a continuation of his 2018 cap hit at less then $3M? If so, I'm in on that.

If it does something weird and jumps up significantly, then I may change my mind.


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 Post subject: Re: Steelers Rumored to Exercise Bud Dupree's 5th-Year Contr
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If I am seeing it correctly...........
His 5th year option would have a base salary of $9.232 millio

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/bud-dupree-16746/

Is that guaranteed for 2019?
does not seem like it is guaranteed.

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 Post subject: Re: Steelers Rumored to Exercise Bud Dupree's 5th-Year Contr
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Stosh-67 wrote:
If I am seeing it correctly...........
His 5th year option would have a base salary of $9.232 millio

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/bud-dupree-16746/

Is that guaranteed for 2019?
does not seem like it is guaranteed.


I looked at that, too and it can't be right, can it?

That's a helluva jump in one year that's technically part of the same contract.


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 Post subject: Re: Steelers Rumored to Exercise Bud Dupree's 5th-Year Contr
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Stosh-67 wrote:
If I am seeing it correctly...........
His 5th year option would have a base salary of $9.232 millio

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/bud-dupree-16746/

Is that guaranteed for 2019?
does not seem like it is guaranteed.

It's only guaranteed for injury, I believe.

I'm ok with this move. If they let Bud rush the passer more, I think he'd have move sacks or at least more QB hurries/pressures.


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 Post subject: Re: Steelers Rumored to Exercise Bud Dupree's 5th-Year Contr
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I am bullish on Bud.

I think he was healthy earlier in the year and played better. I also think he at least showed some flashes. We shall see.

It's a big we shall see year for the defense:

Bud
Sean Davis
Artie Burns
Javon Hargrave

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 Post subject: Re: Steelers Rumored to Exercise Bud Dupree's 5th-Year Contr
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I'm not sold on Dupree but if its a choice between the devil you know vs. the devil you don't then I can see their logic. I believe he's a jag and that's a hefty price tag for a jag. Makes me wonder if they're working on a contract extension because he's not that great in coverage and he plays soft when rushing the passer.


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I'm not sold on Dupree but if its a choice between the devil you know vs. the devil you don't then I can see their logic. I believe he's a jag and that's a hefty price tag for a jag. Makes me wonder if they're working on a contract extension because he's not that great in coverage and he plays soft when rushing the passer.


Hey, the Jags had a pretty good defense last year.

Kidding.

I, too, still hold out some hope for Alvin.


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 Post subject: Re: Steelers Rumored to Exercise Bud Dupree's 5th-Year Contr
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C’mon guys...WTFs going on? I came here for some serious SteelerFury meltdown-age. I’m highly disappointed... :(

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 Post subject: Re: Steelers Rumored to Exercise Bud Dupree's 5th-Year Contr
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Louis Lipps Service wrote:
Stosh-67 wrote:
If I am seeing it correctly...........
His 5th year option would have a base salary of $9.232 millio

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/bud-dupree-16746/

Is that guaranteed for 2019?
does not seem like it is guaranteed.


I looked at that, too and it can't be right, can it?

That's a helluva jump in one year that's technically part of the same contract.


The Option cost is the third through 25th highest salaries at their position

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 Post subject: Re: Steelers Rumored to Exercise Bud Dupree's 5th-Year Contr
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All meltdowns are after the draft...or so I've been told.


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 Post subject: Re: Steelers Rumored to Exercise Bud Dupree's 5th-Year Contr
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Stillcajun wrote:
All meltdowns are after the draft...or so I've been told.


Meltdowns happen during the draft, as well.


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 Post subject: Re: Steelers Rumored to Exercise Bud Dupree's 5th-Year Contr
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Had high hopes for Dupree going into last season.

HE SUCKED COCK.

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 Post subject: Re: Steelers Rumored to Exercise Bud Dupree's 5th-Year Contr
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Had high hopes for Dupree going into last season.

HE SUCKED COCK.


I feel like I would have remembered that happening.


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 Post subject: Re: Steelers Rumored to Exercise Bud Dupree's 5th-Year Contr
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Ice wrote:
KC wrote:
Had high hopes for Dupree going into last season.

HE SUCKED COCK.


I feel like I would have remembered that happening.


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 Post subject: Re: Steelers Rumored to Exercise Bud Dupree's 5th-Year Contr
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It's insurance. Maybe this is the year he finally blows up (ala Worilds :lol: )

I would probably say Dupree is, right now, Do Not Sign. His play has been far enough below the line that you need to actively look to upgrade him. I think, after replacing Shazier and the two safeties, Dupree is arguably the 4th worst on that defense. Burns could bounce back, and already has competition on the roster.

He's not a Larry Foote-type who is solid but average that you can live with. Not to mention, the 3-4 defense truly needs impact OLB's.

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 Post subject: Re: Steelers Rumored to Exercise Bud Dupree's 5th-Year Contr
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bud sucks..hes lamar Woodley without the good years.


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 Post subject: Re: Steelers Rumored to Exercise Bud Dupree's 5th-Year Contr
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Only backfires if he gets injured if he stays a dud they can release him no issue.


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 Post subject: Re: Steelers Rumored to Exercise Bud Dupree's 5th-Year Contr
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Steelers Exercised fifth-year option on LB Bud Dupree’s rookie contract. http://www.steelers.com/news/transactio ... ef4ea1a621


Yay!


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 Post subject: Re: Steelers Rumored to Exercise Bud Dupree's 5th-Year Contr
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he needs to be healthy because he can"t always use that as an excuse.


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steelmann58 wrote:
he needs to be healthy because he can"t always use that as an excuse.

I think the fact that he hasn't made it through an entire season healthy is a bigger issue than anything he did or didn't do on the field.

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 Post subject: Re: Steelers Rumored to Exercise Bud Dupree's 5th-Year Contr
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I really think the Steelers need to figure out what they want from their OLBs in this defense, whatever this defense happens to be or whatever it is becoming.

This is not Dick LeBeau's 3-4 defense any longer, and yet...

They still are drafting that certain prototypical 3-4 OLB. Yeah, they have flirted with the occasional Travis Feeney, but they still are bringing in the same old standard 3-4 OLB, 6'3-6'4" 250-255 players year after year.

Which would be great, if this were 2008, but it isn't. This is 2018, we are in a our base 3-4 defense some 25% of the time. Expecting Dupree or Watt to do what Harrison and Woodley did back then is delusional, not the same defense, and not the same league, rules have changed, offenses have changed.

If we are dropping our OLBs into coverage more than ever before does it make sense to continue drafting these prototypical 255 pound players any longer? Wouldn't an OLB who is 230, 235, be quicker, faster, do a better job of playing in coverage?

As I see it, Watt and Dupree should be 4-3 DEs, playing 65-70% of the time and being very successful if they were drafted by some other team and playing elsewhere. Only in Pittsburgh do we think it is a great idea to drop 255 pound OLBs into coverage as much as we do.

I just see an identity crisis on defense. They (the coaches) don't seem to have a real plan to finally break free of LeBeau's 3-4. At one point last season, before the NE game it was reported that we were still playing zone coverage 88% of the time, then they finally played man coverage in that NE game and it was like a revelation.

It can't just be a one off thing that you hold in reserve for NE, it has to be a staple of your defense. Hopefully, with Burnett and now with Haden being in year two and with a new defensive backs coach they will play much more man coverage.

But the OLB conundrum is a difficult thing for me to wrap my head around. If you are devaluing the position in your defense, if you are not expecting them to get double digit sacks, dropping them into coverage more, not expecting them to be the focal point of the pass rush, then why continue to spend first round picks on the position?

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 Post subject: Re: Steelers Rumored to Exercise Bud Dupree's 5th-Year Contr
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I see the same thing Scunge. I see a defense with LeBeau remnants combined with Tomlin influences. Obviously it has no place in the NFL the way it's set up now, well..., last season anyway. Teams figure out where to target the weaknesses for better success. Having one do-it-all star player [in the past Polamalu, until recently Shazier] in this era of the NFL won't work anymore. There needs to be more of a 'hive' mentality IMHO. Contributions from all over the defense has to be the goal. Tuitt and Heyward up front last season did a lot of the dirty work with the occasional VWill and Hilton contribution. The secondary outside of Haden [when he was playing] and Hilton was woefully below average. LB's were..., well, where were they? I agree for the most part the defense is in some sort of transition. What that is I haven't a clue.


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