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 Post subject: Pens get Brassard
PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:59 pm 
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...for Ian Cole, 2018 first rounder, and goalie Filip Gustavsson.

Not sure I like giving up Cole...but otherwise...damn!


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 Post subject: Re: Pens get Brassard
PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:03 pm 
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I think Cole's been a little shaky at best this year.

Bold move, for sure.


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 Post subject: Re: Pens get Brassard
PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:06 pm 
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DP39 wrote:
I think Cole's been a little shaky at best this year.

Bold move, for sure.


I think he started off shaky. But I think he's been pretty solid lately.


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 Post subject: Re: Pens get Brassard
PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:14 pm 
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I loved Cole and Oleksiak, but I like 2 years of Brassard more. Unless there is another move, looks like Hunwick will be the man on D - I thought he played better the last time I saw him. If Hainsey can come in and make an impact, so can Hunwick-


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 Post subject: Re: Pens get Brassard
PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:27 pm 
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Suwanee88 wrote:
I loved Cole and Oleksiak, but I like 2 years of Brassard more. Unless there is another move, looks like Hunwick will be the man on D - I thought he played better the last time I saw him. If Hainsey can come in and make an impact, so can Hunwick-



Pretty much where I'm at with it, too.

I felt like our D was finally stabilizing and playing at an efficient enough level to compete for the cup again, so losing Cole does have me a little hesitant.

But the prospect of us finally going 4 deep at center with our sudden depth at wing when Horny comes back (which is supposedly soon) is pretty damn exciting. We just went from 18 points out of our 3rd line center to a guy who has 38 points on a bad team. That's a damn nice upgrade, and I love Sheahan on the 4th line (although not particularly with Reaves there, but whatever).


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 Post subject: Re: Pens get Brassard
PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:31 pm 
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Yea I'm bummed giving up Cole as he seemed to settle down. And that means more hunwick (barf) Guss is apparently a high level prospect and some have him pegged as better than Murray

A first is whatever... The pens become the favorites with this move. No one can match the C depth now


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 Post subject: Re: Pens get Brassard
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My new lines......

Guentzel, Crosby. Horny
Hagelin, Malkin, Rust
Sheary, Brassard, Kessel
ZAR, Sheahan, Rowney

Dumo, Letang
Maata, Schultz
Hunwick, Oleksiak

Murray, Jarry


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 Post subject: Re: Pens get Brassard
PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:38 pm 
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We won a Cup last year with essentially no one on defense, and guys on D we thought would suck stepped up their game in the postseason.

Center was what was needed, so this was the trade that made the most sense.

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 Post subject: Re: Pens get Brassard
PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:39 pm 
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Donnie Brasco wrote:
Yea I'm bummed giving up Cole as he seemed to settle down. And that means more hunwick (barf) Guss is apparently a high level prospect and some have him pegged as better than Murray

A first is whatever... The pens become the favorites with this move. No one can match the C depth now

Agree - C depth is incredible. I don’t think they gave up a ton. Rumor is Cole won’t even make it to Ottawa.

Also Hunwick better on the Left side or maybe JR has another small move in play.


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 Post subject: Re: Pens get Brassard
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Donnie Brasco wrote:
Yea I'm bummed giving up Cole as he seemed to settle down. And that means more hunwick (barf) Guss is apparently a high level prospect and some have him pegged as better than Murray

A first is whatever... The pens become the favorites with this move. No one can match the C depth now


The 1 pick would have been steep a month ago.
Cole is difficult to part with but you have to give to get. I bet we get some veteran depth in the next few days.
Just wish this trade had happened earlier in the week so we got our new piece some time to work with the others.

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My new lines......

Guentzel, Crosby. Horny
Hagelin, Malkin, Rust
Sheary, Brassard, Kessel
ZAR, Sheahan, Rowney

Dumo, Letang
Maata, Schultz
Hunwick, Oleksiak

Murray, Jarry


Not a lot of PK'ers there. I'm telling you, once Knuckle is healthy he will be in the lineup. Sully loves him. I know you like ZAR but don't be surprised if he is sent down when Hornqvist is healthy. I'm saying such because that is how I think the organization will handle it.


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 Post subject: Re: Pens get Brassard
PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:00 pm 
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Center depth has gone from a weakness (Rowney and Gregg McKegg sharing a lineup card seems like a long time ago...) to a strength of the team. I'm not sure how they're going to balance out those forward lines exactly, but there's absolutely killer depth and flexibility there now.

I wouldn't rule out another trade, some forward depth for a solid defenseman sounds like the final piece, perhaps. Cole/Oleksiak pairing was doing well.

Nice work, JR! Certainly better today than yesterday, by a decent margin.


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 Post subject: Re: Pens get Brassard
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fractalsteel wrote:
Donnie Brasco wrote:
Yea I'm bummed giving up Cole as he seemed to settle down. And that means more hunwick (barf) Guss is apparently a high level prospect and some have him pegged as better than Murray

A first is whatever... The pens become the favorites with this move. No one can match the C depth now


The 1 pick would have been steep a month ago.
Cole is difficult to part with but you have to give to get. I bet we get some veteran depth in the next few days.
Just wish this trade had happened earlier in the week so we got our new piece some time to work with the others.

Suwanee88 wrote:
My new lines......

Guentzel, Crosby. Horny
Hagelin, Malkin, Rust
Sheary, Brassard, Kessel
ZAR, Sheahan, Rowney

Dumo, Letang
Maata, Schultz
Hunwick, Oleksiak

Murray, Jarry


Not a lot of PK'ers there. I'm telling you, once Knuckle is healthy he will be in the lineup. Sully loves him. I know you like ZAR but don't be surprised if he is sent down when Hornqvist is healthy. I'm saying such because that is how I think the organization will handle it.

I wouldn’t hate that - I thought Tommy Boy was playing very good hockey- PK is important and we have a lot of scoring options.


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 Post subject: Re: Pens get Brassard
PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:11 pm 
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As of a minute ago the NHL official site hasn't made mention of the trade. Such a great sport run by a shit show.


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 Post subject: Re: Pens get Brassard
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fractalsteel wrote:
As of a minute ago the NHL official site hasn't made mention of the trade. Such a great sport run by a shit show.

Your fuckng kidding me - do you think it’s not a done deal?


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 Post subject: Re: Pens get Brassard
PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:32 pm 
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It's all over the net. I'm just poking fun at the NHL.


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 Post subject: Re: Pens get Brassard
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Ice wrote:
Center depth has gone from a weakness (Rowney and Gregg McKegg sharing a lineup card seems like a long time ago...) to a strength of the team. I'm not sure how they're going to balance out those forward lines exactly, but there's absolutely killer depth and flexibility there now.

I wouldn't rule out another trade, some forward depth for a solid defenseman sounds like the final piece, perhaps. Cole/Oleksiak pairing was doing well.

Nice work, JR! Certainly better today than yesterday, by a decent margin.


Yea I think there will be a minor deal for a defenseman made. Think Hainsey /streit last year

I think there will be no more wingers added, which is fine. Jr got his trophy fish and he's gonna pack up his nets


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 Post subject: Re: Pens get Brassard
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wow, bold move by GMJR --

exactly what we needed -- strength at C

awesome move -- very happy


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 Post subject: Re: Pens get Brassard
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Hearing on the radio that the details of this deal aren’t final yet and are very complicated. Another team involved, that may have to take on brassard first, then deal him to Pittsburgh for some reason.

Salary retention may be part of it, with it rumored that Pens get out of 18% of brassard’s salary.


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 Post subject: Re: Pens get Brassard
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Per McKenzie, VGK seems to be the 3rd man in the deal, with salary retention being their part. Given Melnyk's cheap ass, it makes sense.


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 Post subject: Re: Pens get Brassard
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Ice wrote:
Per McKenzie, VGK seems to be the 3rd man in the deal, with salary retention being their part. Given Melnyk's cheap ass, it makes sense.

I saw that just now on NHL network.
So we won't see Brassard until 2-27 at home against Jersey?


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 Post subject: Re: Pens get Brassard
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LOVE IT!


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 Post subject: Re: Pens get Brassard
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fractalsteel wrote:
Ice wrote:
Per McKenzie, VGK seems to be the 3rd man in the deal, with salary retention being their part. Given Melnyk's cheap ass, it makes sense.

I saw that just now on NHL network.
So we won't see Brassard until 2-27 at home against Jersey?


Could be. Pirates fans and Sens fans could start a cheap ass owners support group.


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 Post subject: Re: Pens get Brassard
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New theory making the rounds is that they’re basically laundering money through Vegas.

Teams can only eat up to 50% of a player’s salary in a trade, and that can only be done twice. So theory is that Senators are eating a portion of his salary, then trading him to Vegas who will eat even more of his salary, then Pittsburgh gets him, with Cole going to Vegas and Ottawa getting the draft pick and goalie prospect.

Also theories that maybe there’s more pieces involved.


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 Post subject: Re: Pens get Brassard
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If Vegas is involved maybe Ian Cole lands there.

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bold moves...gotta love Mario and company!! reload and upgrade and kick ass!!!


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