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 Post subject: Re: NFL fans on refs last night
PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:25 pm 
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Miter Saw wrote:
So you've seen that happen?

When a ref calls a false start only to reverse it a considerable (relative) time later and give a first down? Without advantage of replay? What changed his mind? I also think they moved simultaneously but won't argue who moved first, not worth going back to look at play.

OPI: Decker was on LOS. I'm unclear of rule, Romo was pretty clear it's not a penalty...I grant that he could be wrong.


I’ve never seen it happen before but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t the right thing to do. Torbert is right that the guy who called it a false start was nowhere near in the proper position to do so....he was way behind the play.

And I don’t think being on the LOS means you are allowed to push off to gain separation.

In any event, nothing I saw last night leads me to suspect a huge conspiracy or a “surgical officiating strike” to hand the game to New England.

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 Post subject: Re: NFL fans on refs last night
PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:33 pm 
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The way the game was officiated made the titans play hesitant. Pats took advantage. Gronk pushes off on almost every play, and plays weren't called consistently on both teams. This is not news. It's an easy way to hamstring the opponent.

Remember when the steelers were constantly called for unnecessary roughness or hits to the head? The defense folded for fear of getting penalized again. It castrated them. The Tits folded because they had no calls going their way.

I also don't agree the neutral zone infraction was the correct call. Even if they both jerked, the defense is allowed to. What about the illegal formation? Or the facemask not called? All those add up to an emotional edge and momentum to the Pats.

At the same time, Lebeau made the same mistakes, and Mularky didn't play to win, but played safe. They simply gave up either because of the inconsistent officiating or because they thought they didn't stand a chance to win after the first half debacle.

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 Post subject: Re: NFL fans on refs last night
PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 1:54 pm 
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Belichick's attention to detail though....

https://nesn.com/2018/01/how-patriots-o ... t-penalty/


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 Post subject: Re: NFL fans on refs last night
PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:01 pm 
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swissvale72 wrote:
Belichick's attention to detail though....

https://nesn.com/2018/01/how-patriots-o ... t-penalty/
The defender only entered the neutral zone after the guard moved the second time. After the center's head bob. At least that's what it looked like to me, but I ain't no expert.

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 Post subject: Re: NFL fans on refs last night
PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:39 pm 
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COR-TEN wrote:
swissvale72 wrote:
Belichick's attention to detail though....

https://nesn.com/2018/01/how-patriots-o ... t-penalty/
The defender only entered the neutral zone after the guard moved the second time. After the center's head bob. At least that's what it looked like to me, but I ain't no expert.


I need clarification on the center’s head bob- that was the only part that looked suspicious to me.

But head bobs on the O-line like that have been going on for years and are never called on any team...not sure why not. I mean, the center’s head bobbed up exactly like it would if he had snapped the ball and was now looking up to see who to block. It shouldn’t be legal, but apparently it is.

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 Post subject: Re: NFL fans on refs last night
PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:39 am 
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At this point if the SB was called legitimately and clean the Patriots would consider it a double cross


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Everyone needs to prepare to accept that we need to turn off the NFL

It's all a fucking ruse

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 Post subject: Re: NFL fans on refs last night
PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:50 am 
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Suwanee88 wrote:
It’s the same shit they used to say about the Steelers dynasty. Great teams overcome bad calls. Time for this team to be great.


Pats get a pass on the so called "judgment calls', you know, the ones that can be called pretty much any play if you want? You can see plenty of Pats actions worthy of a flag, Plus they pretty much win every challenge, they often get key overturns upon review, plus their plays aren't overturned. There was a Pats TD catch where the ball obviously came out, it was totally 100% no catch, but Pats got the TD, Jesse James, on the other hand... And his ball touching the ground is to clear.


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 Post subject: Re: NFL fans on refs last night
PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:53 am 
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Zeke5123 wrote:

The real answer is simplify the rules. Remove automatic first down penalties. Allow illegal contact. Limit review to thirty seconds. Hire new refs.


Make "what is a catch" an unreviewable judgment call that can't be reviewed and force them to accept the call on the field.


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 Post subject: Re: NFL fans on refs last night
PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:56 am 
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swissvale72 wrote:
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What I don’t understand is why no journalist digs into the issue. I’m sure you can mathematically prove the Pats are extreme outliers when it comes to refs. Then, just some study of tape would prove it’s not because they are just that much more disciplined.

The real answer is simplify the rules. Remove automatic first down penalties. Allow illegal contact. Limit review to thirty seconds. Hire new refs.


I've been saying that for years. No such rule in the college game. The rule fucks with the natural order of the game. You contact the receiver like that, you take the risk of being burned deep....should NEVER have been legislated out.

One would think that the Competition Committee should understand that one of their priorities should be LESS penalty flags, not more...infuse more spontaneity into the game for its fans, etc.

While they're at it, get rid of penalties for...
*Taunting
*Hands to the face


While they're at it, get rid of penalties for...
*Taunting
*Hands to the face
*Formation, except for having 5 O-linemen anything else goes, WHO CARES?
*Illegal Motion, go CFL style, who cares?

So much they could get rid of that would eliminate nitpicky stoppages!


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 Post subject: Re: NFL fans on refs last night
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Required to attend Houston Dallas NBA Wed. After 52 uncalled walking violations, 9 uncalled 3 second violations and 44 uncalled palming violations I ceased counting, late 3rd qtr. High school ball is a far superior product and relatively rule complaint.


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 Post subject: Re: NFL fans on refs last night
PostPosted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:41 am 
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Old School Steeler wrote:
Required to attend Houston Dallas NBA Wed. After 52 uncalled walking violations, 9 uncalled 3 second violations and 44 uncalled palming violations I ceased counting, late 3rd qtr. High school ball is a far superior product and relatively rule complaint.


Exactly why I can't stand watching the NBA. it is not basketball. I like the College game better.

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