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 Post subject: Re: Haley: Fuck you Ben
PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:13 pm 

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Steel Drummer wrote:
Steeledge wrote:
... flawed perception, maybe?

because I don't think anything of the sort.
farbeit for me to think too much of myself to be above improvement...

the records of these "elites" speak for themselves when kept in context, though

Still think Ben is a first ballot HOFer?
I certainly HOPE so!

But we shall see...

Fair enough. Maybe my perception is flawed.

But let's get back to the argument that being with only one team lowers the ceiling of your achievement. I don't see it.

Seems to me that, first of all, spending a long career with one team is hardly a knock. Guarantees that you've been successful, in fact. If the argument is that the Steelers are a premier organization and Tomlin and Ben might not look the same without them, that's true. But it's also true that they're a premier organization because they make mostly good decisions, like keeping superior QBs and coaches around for their careers.

I should add that:

1. I'm not as down on Haley as a lot of people here, and
2. Like you I hope but don't know that Ben is a first-ballot HOFer.

But there's no way Haley is as good a coach as Tomlin.

Unless your name is Marvin Lewis, of course.

 Post subject: Re: Haley: Fuck you Ben
PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:33 am 
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fortythree wrote:
Steeledge wrote:
bradshaw2ben wrote:
All the more reason Haley should be doing a better job-- he has all the pieces now, and a great organization.

Even Tomlin excelled as an excellent coach elsewhere. a SECONDARY coach.

ONE year as DC does not a RECORD make!

Other than that, you got nothing to go on to make such a far-fetched, ridiculous claim!

When you're blinded by irrational hate it's easy to look past the obvious when trying to argue that Tomlin is a bad coach and/or a failure.

oh fortythree, I can guess what you're desperately trying and failing to infer, but your ignorance and weak deflection have no place here...

:roll: - I swear, some people's children...


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