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 Post subject: The Mothership is Afire
PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:16 pm 
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In the continued saga of sticking up and shoving it up someone's ass

BSPN can't afford MNF anymore

Also heard another round of big layoffs due

Lost 15000 subscribers a day this month alone

Must be that jemele hill nonsense too

https://www.outkickthecoverage.com/espn ... -football/

Someone leaked some really bad business prospects about how bad BSPN has failed

Yet another pigs get fat scenario

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 Post subject: Re: The Mothership is Afire
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:05 am 
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BethlehemSteel wrote:

Must be that jemele hill nonsense too



Really? Do people really care about stuff like that so much to alter their personal life? I figure both sides of the political spectrum are full of shit, left and right, I HATE BOTH SIDES, and nothing either side does effects what I do. Like I want to watch the Steelers on Sunday, so I watch, and I don't care if or how the stupid anthem "controversy" is resolved. How many of you have stopped watching Steelers games over the anthem? I need ESPN for some of the sports events I want to see, like Pitt Football next Thursday. I don't care if they are promoting Communism or Fascism, I need to get my entertainment.


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 Post subject: Re: The Mothership is Afire
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:01 pm 
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Nick79 wrote:
Really? Do people really care about stuff like that so much to alter their personal life?

Um.....yes. All people are doing is choosing to watch something else (or nothing at all). It's not like this is a major life altering decision. Regardless of anyone's opinion, roughly half the country doesn't agree with Jemele Hill's politics and they don't find her spiel 'entertaining'....so they tuned out.

More than politics, ESPN has just become a bore to watch. I have better things to do than watch a roundtable of dipshits debate about topics I could care less about. Seriously, why do they need 3 different debate shows in the afternoon? Why does every topic on Sportscenter need a discussion panel? PTI has been on the air for 16 years now....it's old and stale (and Tony Kornheiser (sp?) is really irritating). I still keep cable for live sporting events, South Park, History Channel, and the off chance I'll catch a movie or something. Once the major sports leagues start cutting out the middle man and go direct to consumers, my cable days are done.

As to your comment on anthem protests - no, it hasn't caused me to tune out of other NFL coverage. I tuned out a long time ago. For starters, the games have become way too drawn out with endless penalties, replays, and commercial breaks. The pregame/postgame shows are just awful. If I have a vested interest in the game, or if I have nothing better to do, I'll tune in. Otherwise, I don't really care. Still, alot of people are turned off by the anthem protest, and that's their right. Just because you don't care doesn't mean they shouldn't. Maybe they don't find it "entertaining"

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 Post subject: Re: The Mothership is Afire
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:18 pm 
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Pabst wrote:
Nick79 wrote:
Really? Do people really care about stuff like that so much to alter their personal life?

Um.....yes. All people are doing is choosing to watch something else (or nothing at all). It's not like this is a major life altering decision. Regardless of anyone's opinion, roughly half the country doesn't agree with Jemele Hill's politics and they don't find her spiel 'entertaining'....so they tuned out.

More than politics, ESPN has just become a bore to watch. I have better things to do than watch a roundtable of dipshits debate about topics I could care less about. Seriously, why do they need 3 different debate shows in the afternoon? Why does every topic on Sportscenter need a discussion panel? PTI has been on the air for 16 years now....it's old and stale (and Tony Kornheiser (sp?) is really irritating). I still keep cable for live sporting events, South Park, History Channel, and the off chance I'll catch a movie or something. Once the major sports leagues start cutting out the middle man and go direct to consumers, my cable days are done.

As to your comment on anthem protests - no, it hasn't caused me to tune out of other NFL coverage. I tuned out a long time ago. For starters, the games have become way too drawn out with endless penalties, replays, and commercial breaks. The pregame/postgame shows are just awful. If I have a vested interest in the game, or if I have nothing better to do, I'll tune in. Otherwise, I don't really care. Still, alot of people are turned off by the anthem protest, and that's their right. Just because you don't care doesn't mean they shouldn't. Maybe they don't find it "entertaining"
But what I find interesting is that the anthem is 3 minutes. If you skipped it you'd never know there were "protests." All this talk about it being "shoved down our throats" during games is bullshit. They don't talk about it for the entirety of the broadcast of the game. It became more of a deal when the idiot in chief politicized it. And then you have an article about sports entertainment tv channel's business and their content and marketing philosophy, and it becomes a liberal bashfest in the comment section. After the author labeled another outlet left wing garbage nobody wants to watch.

ESPN is losing ratings because content sucks. Sports reporting is becoming a grass roots, democratized endeavor. Individuals are throwing up sites with better content and analysis. The only think ESPN has is access to players. Once that is spread out they will be worthless. Social media will change that soon enough when players start to hold interviews on reddit, if their contracts allow it. Unless they improve content and stop using decades old philosophy of television sports entertainment, they will wither away and die. They are the same as inside edition or access hollywood.

But all the NFL did with penalties and the stoppage of play with replay was to increase advertising time to peddle beer, cars, and americana. Removing violence from the game and pushing the appearance of "fairness" is intent on attracting women and new viewers to increase their market. Along with UK games, and possible Mexico games. Football has been prostituted, and all everybody wants to do is increase the market and grab more of the pie. That's what capitalism does.


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 Post subject: Re: The Mothership is Afire
PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:48 pm 
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Football has been prostituted, and all everybody wants to do is increase the market and grab more of the pie. That's what capitalism does.

And as a result, the quality of the product has declined, viewers are tuning out, and advertisers are starting to pull back (Papa John's). This is likely to impact the NFL's bottom line. That's......also what capitalism does.

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 Post subject: Re: The Mothership is Afire
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and all everybody wants to do is increase the market and grab more of the pie. That's what capitalism does.


And in your socialist utopia is it the tax payer that covers the cost of a sports league rather than the consumers of said product?


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and all everybody wants to do is increase the market and grab more of the pie. That's what capitalism does.


And in your socialist utopia is it the tax payer that covers the cost of a sports league rather than the consumers of said product?
I know I'm going to regret this, but you don't know shit about me or what ideology I hold. I never said I'm a socialist. I've never announced that I am a proponent of socialism, or any one of the other false assumptions you've made about me. You get triggered, acting like a snowflake when someone criticizes something you hold so dear, so you construct straw men filled with cliche's, stereotypes, and right wing talking points, and then feel good about yourself when tearing them down. Where did I say tax payers should cover the cost of a sports league? But I shouldn't be surprised in this age of binary choices (stand for the flag and be patriotic or kneel and be a traitor), that you would make stupid assumptions. This is why we are where we are politically inside the beltway and in public discourse.

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 Post subject: Re: The Mothership is Afire
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That was a bunch of hot air Cor-Ten. You have been running around bashing capitalism like it stole your one and only girlfriend or something since you began frequenting this site.

You go out of your way to ad an anti-capitalist rant even when it’s not the topic of discussion. That’s the irritating part. I don’t get “triggered”. What I get is an opportunity to call you on things.

And while there are various & different types of economic subsets, the main two economic types are capitalism & socialism.

So if you hate one, it leads to one assuming you prefer the other.

The topic here is the declining quality of BSPN’s product and like clockwork here you are using as yet another excuse to get a dig at capitalism.

Capiatalism isn’t perfect. No system is. Nor do I “hold it dear”. But show me a successful socialist that isn’t part of the government mechanism.


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 Post subject: Re: The Mothership is Afire
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Funny, someone here was telling me just the other day BSPN was doing fine....I think it was Corten.

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 Post subject: Re: The Mothership is Afire
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It is more about the cable cutters and the cost of ESPN as it adds to everything. I would also think it is them going to a personality base than a news base. More booya and catch phrases than reporting the news.

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