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 Post subject: Re: Tubmonsters around the league
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 4:41 pm 
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I guess your response implies that some people have weaker ligaments than others?

I mean, I don't know what player's knee wouldn't get fucked up from the DeCastro submarining of Pouncey's knee.
One of Shazier's first injuries was because a defensive player knocked an o lineman into his knee sideways while he was looking at the other side of the pile of bodies. After the whistle, and it took four games for him to get back to the starting lineup, if I remember right.

People love to deny the randomness of the universe. You don't have nearly as much control over your life as you think. Football is no different.

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I guess your response implies that some people have weaker ligaments than others?

I mean, I don't know what player's knee wouldn't get fucked up from the DeCastro submarining of Pouncey's knee.
One of Shazier's first injuries was because a defensive player knocked an o lineman into his knee sideways while he was looking at the other side of the pile of bodies. After the whistle, and it took four games for him to get back to the starting lineup, if I remember right.

People love to deny the randomness of the universe. You don't have nearly as much control over your life as you think. Football is no different.


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 Post subject: Re: Tubmonsters around the league
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:26 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Tubmonsters around the league
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BarryFoster wrote:
SteelerChef wrote:
I really should get royalty checks here

Field Goal Bill
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Not to mention SilverbackAttack

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You are a big part of this bizarre online fan forum STD

Yes he is. Much like Corky was a big part of Life Goes On!


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DP39 wrote:
BarryFoster wrote:
SteelerChef wrote:
I really should get royalty checks here

Field Goal Bill
Tubmonster
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Handoff Monkey

Not to mention SilverbackAttack

So much more....you are all welcome. I love sharing my genius with the little people


You are a big part of this bizarre online fan forum STD

Yes he is. Much like Corky was a big part of Life Goes On!


I think STD is a riot. I enjoy the creativity. Makes me laugh.

And his Haley trying to score less than 30 points a game idea took some heat but it actually goes along with what many have been saying... just in a very funny way. FOS


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 Post subject: Re: Tubmonsters around the league
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 Post subject: Re: Tubmonsters around the league
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BarryFoster wrote:
I guess your response implies that some people have weaker ligaments than others?


I'm not implying it, I'm stating it as a fact. Some people have tighter/less elastic ligaments than others. Some have shorter ligaments than others. Same with bones and joints. This makes them more likely to get injured, all else equal.

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 Post subject: Re: Tubmonsters around the league
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I remember Timmons after being drafted couldn't stay healthy in camp, had a tough time getting on the field. The second round pick that year did stay on the field during camp, prompting many to essentially label Timmons at that time a tubmonster.

Timmons I believe went on to start 101 consecutive games. The other guy, not so much.


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BarryFoster wrote:

I mean, I don't know what player's knee wouldn't get fucked up from the DeCastro submarining of Pouncey's knee.


Actually it happens nearly every play: RB falling on the back on an Olineman's legs. Or a WR engaged in a block downfield and he gets rolled up from behind


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Watt has a groin predisposed to injury

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Donnie Brasco wrote:
BarryFoster wrote:

I mean, I don't know what player's knee wouldn't get fucked up from the DeCastro submarining of Pouncey's knee.


Actually it happens nearly every play: RB falling on the back on an Olineman's legs. Or a WR engaged in a block downfield and he gets rolled up from behind

This is on a different level, though:
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Donnie Brasco wrote:
BarryFoster wrote:

I mean, I don't know what player's knee wouldn't get fucked up from the DeCastro submarining of Pouncey's knee.


Actually it happens nearly every play: RB falling on the back on an Olineman's legs. Or a WR engaged in a block downfield and he gets rolled up from behind

AV stepping on Ben's lower leg Sunday could have been a disaster. Thank goodness he takes good care of himself.

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I mean, I don't know what player's knee wouldn't get fucked up from the DeCastro submarining of Pouncey's knee.


Actually it happens nearly every play: RB falling on the back on an Olineman's legs. Or a WR engaged in a block downfield and he gets rolled up from behind

This is on a different level, though:
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Thanks. I was hoping someone would come to my defense.

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 Post subject: Re: Tubmonsters around the league
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Thanks. I was hoping someone would come to my defense.

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 Post subject: Re: Tubmonsters around the league
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Kodiak wrote:
BarryFoster wrote:
I guess your response implies that some people have weaker ligaments than others?


I'm not implying it, I'm stating it as a fact. Some people have tighter/less elastic ligaments than others. Some have shorter ligaments than others. Same with bones and joints. This makes them more likely to get injured, all else equal.

Do you guys ever watch the Steelers' pregame stretch?
It's like a buncha guys hanging out and carrying on, waiting for the work release bus to show up...

Injuries happen. Life happens.
It's the preparation for and response to such that makes the real difference.

I bet if our players were coached to take those preparations with a bit more serious discipline and could be shown the bigger picture AS A TEAM, in general, they'd be among those with the better prepared skeletal and connective tissue...

Generally speaking, the injuries that occur could be less serious and of shorter duration if the prep and stretch was a bit more serious.

Can't possibly expect such a standard to be set by our "Leader of Grown Assed Men", though, right?

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 Post subject: Re: Tubmonsters around the league
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Injuries happen.
Some probably have more flexible joints, tendons, muscles, etc......
Some heal quicker and can rebound faster.
Some are just lucky
Some are in the wrong place at the wrong time.

How does one explain the phenomena of Eli Manning.
He is a big bucket of silly putty......
has not missed a game in forever.
He should not have walked off that field on Monday night.
Took at least 2 kill shots.
Got driven into the turf on one play by every last ounce of Ngatas body.
Yet never missed a play.

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Steeledge wrote:
Kodiak wrote:
BarryFoster wrote:
I guess your response implies that some people have weaker ligaments than others?


I'm not implying it, I'm stating it as a fact. Some people have tighter/less elastic ligaments than others. Some have shorter ligaments than others. Same with bones and joints. This makes them more likely to get injured, all else equal.

Do you guys ever watch the Steelers' pregame stretch?
It's like a buncha guys hanging out and carrying on, waiting for the work release bus to show up...

Injuries happen. Life happens.
It's the preparation for and response to such that makes the real difference.

I bet if our players were coached to take those preparations with a bit more serious discipline and could be shown the bigger picture AS A TEAM, in general, they'd be among those with the better prepared skeletal and connective tissue...

Generally speaking, the injuries that occur could be less serious and of shorter duration if the prep and stretch was a bit more serious.

Can't possibly expect such a standard to be set by our "Leader of Grown Assed Men", though, right?

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This is honestly laughable. It's almost like poorly done satire. Like if a bad writer submitted an article for The Onion.


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 Post subject: Re: Tubmonsters around the league
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Steeledge wrote:
Kodiak wrote:
BarryFoster wrote:
I guess your response implies that some people have weaker ligaments than others?


I'm not implying it, I'm stating it as a fact. Some people have tighter/less elastic ligaments than others. Some have shorter ligaments than others. Same with bones and joints. This makes them more likely to get injured, all else equal.

Do you guys ever watch the Steelers' pregame stretch?
It's like a buncha guys hanging out and carrying on, waiting for the work release bus to show up...

Injuries happen. Life happens.
It's the preparation for and response to such that makes the real difference.

I bet if our players were coached to take those preparations with a bit more serious discipline and could be shown the bigger picture AS A TEAM, in general, they'd be among those with the better prepared skeletal and connective tissue...

Generally speaking, the injuries that occur could be less serious and of shorter duration if the prep and stretch was a bit more serious.

Can't possibly expect such a standard to be set by our "Leader of Grown Assed Men", though, right?

Image

:roll:


static stretching has been proven ineffective for injury preventions. http://www.bmj.com/content/325/7362/468 The stuff they stand around and do together is probably more a comraderie thing. Everyone is now doing dynamic stretches, which are usually done in small positional groups or alone. It's not the 90's anymore.

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Not to mention SilverbackAttack

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static stretching has been proven ineffective for injury preventions. http://www.bmj.com/content/325/7362/468 The stuff they stand around and do together is probably more a comraderie thing. Everyone is now doing dynamic stretches, which are usually done in small positional groups or alone. It's not the 90's anymore.



Yep. And what you do immediately before the game isn't going to have a huge impact. There's only so much you can do with the tendons/ligaments you have, and it takes years of proper conditioning to to have a marginal impact.

And I can add 20 lbs of muscle, but it won't do much for my tendons/ligaments/joints except subject them to greater force than they're used to or that my body intended.

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You guys are wrong. I don't follow any other teams or pay attention to their injury reports, but I perceive the Steelers as suffering a disproportionate amount of injuries. And it's all because Tomlin has the team prepare for games like prison inmates working out in the yard. You know, because they're black.

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Do you guys ever watch the Steelers' pregame stretch?
It's like a buncha guys hanging out and carrying on, waiting for the work release bus to show up...


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Steeledge wrote:
Kodiak wrote:
BarryFoster wrote:
I guess your response implies that some people have weaker ligaments than others?


I'm not implying it, I'm stating it as a fact. Some people have tighter/less elastic ligaments than others. Some have shorter ligaments than others. Same with bones and joints. This makes them more likely to get injured, all else equal.

Do you guys ever watch the Steelers' pregame stretch?
It's like a buncha guys hanging out and carrying on, waiting for the work release bus to show up...

Injuries happen. Life happens.
It's the preparation for and response to such that makes the real difference.

I bet if our players were coached to take those preparations with a bit more serious discipline and could be shown the bigger picture AS A TEAM, in general, they'd be among those with the better prepared skeletal and connective tissue...

Generally speaking, the injuries that occur could be less serious and of shorter duration if the prep and stretch was a bit more serious.

Can't possibly expect such a standard to be set by our "Leader of Grown Assed Men", though, right?

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Hope you didn't hurt yourself stretching for another thing to blame on Tomlin.

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Ravens have 15 guys on IR. How does this skew predictive tubmonster analytics?

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Laying the Wood wrote:
You guys are wrong. I don't follow any other teams or pay attention to their injury reports, but I perceive the Steelers as suffering a disproportionate amount of injuries. And it's all because Tomlin has the team prepare for games like prison inmates working out in the yard. You know, because they're black.

I'll readily admit that what I said was a "stretch" </pun>
but you, sir, took it to a whole new and much lower level of despicable.

congratulations.

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