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 Post subject: Tubmonsters around the league
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 2:10 pm 
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I always find it funny how certain players have been labeled here...

I think we need an "AROUND THE LEAGUE TUBMONSTER" forum where we discuss other teams' problematic, injury prone players.

WE ARE NOT ALONE

I was reading a Bears forum trying to gain some insight as to how their fans see the upcoming game. One of the threads was about Kevin White. Remember him?

There are so many tubmonsters out there....would make your head spin. Apparently injuries happen to other teams as well. I wasn't aware.

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 Post subject: Re: Tubmonsters around the league
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No fuckin' way. The steelers trainers and staff are incompetent fucks, and the front office and Tomlin only drafts weaklings. Every other team does w a y better in that regard. All 31 of them. All 1,643 players are in perfect conditioning and never have injury issues.

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 Post subject: Re: Tubmonsters around the league
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No fuckin' way. The steelers trainers and staff are incompetent fucks, and the front office and Tomlin only drafts weaklings. Every other team does w a y better in that regard. All 31 of them. All 1,643 players are in perfect conditioning and never have injury issues.


Agreed. We need better scouts....

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Surprised no one in the Carolina front office picked up Olen's propensity for foot injuries.

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 Post subject: Re: Tubmonsters around the league
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No fuckin' way. The steelers trainers and staff are incompetent fucks, and the front office and Tomlin only drafts weaklings. Every other team does w a y better in that regard. All 31 of them. All 1,643 players are in perfect conditioning and never have injury issues.


When Zivco was here I showed the stats that showed the Steelers' man-hours lost to injury had a slightly higher mean rate than the NFL average, but yet was not statistically significantly different.

He gave his typical emotional non sequiturs to that...it was fun.

And don't forget that all our guys have small wrist circumferences...and probably really low HIG factors.

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 Post subject: Re: Tubmonsters around the league
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 2:40 pm 
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@4:30 in video

Gilbert - Hamstring
James - Ankle
McDonald - Back
Tuitt - Arm
Watt - Groin
Wilcox-Concussion Protocol
http://www.steelers.com/videos/videos/T ... 316ed2f488


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 Post subject: Re: Tubmonsters around the league
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1-2 injuries is bad luck, but lightning doesn't keep striking the same guy every year or every other year. I think if you go and look at guys victimized by "bad luck" at least 3 times you'll find them struck by "bad luck" several more times in their career.

I don't know, maybe 10-15% of players are more - some much more - susceptible to injury than others. I'm not sure why this would surprise anyone or continue to be debated.

Troy battled injuries his whole career. Ben has battled injuries his whole career. Shazier is going to battle injuries his whole career. Pouncey and Bell are one injury away from establishing themselves in that group, as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Tubmonsters around the league
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1-2 injuries is bad luck, but lightning doesn't keep striking the same guy every year or every other year. I think if you go and look at guys victimized by "bad luck" at least 3 times you'll find them struck by "bad luck" several more times in their career.

I don't know, maybe 10-15% of players are more - some much more - susceptible to injury than others. I'm not sure why this would surprise anyone or continue to be debated.

Troy battled injuries his whole career. Ben has battled injuries his whole career. Shazier is going to battle injuries his whole career. Pouncey and Bell are one injury away from establishing themselves in that group, as well.


So "guys struck by bad luck 3 tiimes" are in essence guy's prone to injury, is that what you're saying?

Remember when DeCastro dove at Pouncey's knee?

Remember when Reggie Nelson hit Bell's knee with his helmet flush?

Are these guys simply injury prone or would anyone in a similar situation have a season ending injury?

Senquez was a tub monster.

How can you lump players into a "category" who suffer severe injuries as the result of on the field chaos?

I don't get it. And this doesn't even factor in wrist circumference or frame size.

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 Post subject: Re: Tubmonsters around the league
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BarryFoster wrote:
Are these guys simply injury prone


Most likely yes...certainly far more likely than "just really bad luck"....twice

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or would anyone in a similar situation have a season ending injury?


In many cases probably no. Most players get hit like that several times throughout a year - you just don't see or recall it because most of those guys walked away a little sore, maybe, but uninjured.

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 Post subject: Re: Tubmonsters around the league
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I guess your response implies that some people have weaker ligaments than others?

I mean, I don't know what player's knee wouldn't get fucked up from the DeCastro submarining of Pouncey's knee.

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 Post subject: Re: Tubmonsters around the league
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BarryFoster wrote:
I guess your response implies that some people have weaker ligaments than others?

I mean, I don't know what player's knee wouldn't get fucked up from the DeCastro submarining of Pouncey's knee.
One of Shazier's first injuries was because a defensive player knocked an o lineman into his knee sideways while he was looking at the other side of the pile of bodies. After the whistle, and it took four games for him to get back to the starting lineup, if I remember right.

People love to deny the randomness of the universe. You don't have nearly as much control over your life as you think. Football is no different.

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 Post subject: Re: Tubmonsters around the league
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COR-TEN wrote:
BarryFoster wrote:
I guess your response implies that some people have weaker ligaments than others?

I mean, I don't know what player's knee wouldn't get fucked up from the DeCastro submarining of Pouncey's knee.
One of Shazier's first injuries was because a defensive player knocked an o lineman into his knee sideways while he was looking at the other side of the pile of bodies. After the whistle, and it took four games for him to get back to the starting lineup, if I remember right.

People love to deny the randomness of the universe. You don't have nearly as much control over your life as you think. Football is no different.


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 Post subject: Re: Tubmonsters around the league
PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:26 pm 
I really should get royalty checks here

Field Goal Bill
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Not to mention SilverbackAttack

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SteelerChef wrote:
I really should get royalty checks here

Field Goal Bill
Tubmonster
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Handoff Monkey

Not to mention SilverbackAttack

So much more....you are all welcome. I love sharing my genius with the little people


You are a big part of this bizarre online fan forum STD

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 Post subject: Re: Tubmonsters around the league
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BarryFoster wrote:
SteelerChef wrote:
I really should get royalty checks here

Field Goal Bill
Tubmonster
HIG
Socksucker
Handoff Monkey

Not to mention SilverbackAttack

So much more....you are all welcome. I love sharing my genius with the little people


You are a big part of this bizarre online fan forum STD

Yes he is. Much like Corky was a big part of Life Goes On!


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 Post subject: Re: Tubmonsters around the league
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DP39 wrote:
BarryFoster wrote:
SteelerChef wrote:
I really should get royalty checks here

Field Goal Bill
Tubmonster
HIG
Socksucker
Handoff Monkey

Not to mention SilverbackAttack

So much more....you are all welcome. I love sharing my genius with the little people


You are a big part of this bizarre online fan forum STD

Yes he is. Much like Corky was a big part of Life Goes On!


I think STD is a riot. I enjoy the creativity. Makes me laugh.

And his Haley trying to score less than 30 points a game idea took some heat but it actually goes along with what many have been saying... just in a very funny way. FOS


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 Post subject: Re: Tubmonsters around the league
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SteelerChef wrote:
I really should get royalty checks here

Field Goal Bill
Tubmonster
HIG
Socksucker
Handoff Monkey

Not to mention SilverbackAttack

So much more....you are all welcome. I love sharing my genius with the little people


No Tommy Blizard Thompson reference?


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 Post subject: Re: Tubmonsters around the league
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BarryFoster wrote:
I guess your response implies that some people have weaker ligaments than others?


I'm not implying it, I'm stating it as a fact. Some people have tighter/less elastic ligaments than others. Some have shorter ligaments than others. Same with bones and joints. This makes them more likely to get injured, all else equal.

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 Post subject: Re: Tubmonsters around the league
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I remember Timmons after being drafted couldn't stay healthy in camp, had a tough time getting on the field. The second round pick that year did stay on the field during camp, prompting many to essentially label Timmons at that time a tubmonster.

Timmons I believe went on to start 101 consecutive games. The other guy, not so much.


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BarryFoster wrote:

I mean, I don't know what player's knee wouldn't get fucked up from the DeCastro submarining of Pouncey's knee.


Actually it happens nearly every play: RB falling on the back on an Olineman's legs. Or a WR engaged in a block downfield and he gets rolled up from behind


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Watt has a groin predisposed to injury

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Donnie Brasco wrote:
BarryFoster wrote:

I mean, I don't know what player's knee wouldn't get fucked up from the DeCastro submarining of Pouncey's knee.


Actually it happens nearly every play: RB falling on the back on an Olineman's legs. Or a WR engaged in a block downfield and he gets rolled up from behind

This is on a different level, though:
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Donnie Brasco wrote:
BarryFoster wrote:

I mean, I don't know what player's knee wouldn't get fucked up from the DeCastro submarining of Pouncey's knee.


Actually it happens nearly every play: RB falling on the back on an Olineman's legs. Or a WR engaged in a block downfield and he gets rolled up from behind

AV stepping on Ben's lower leg Sunday could have been a disaster. Thank goodness he takes good care of himself.

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Donnie Brasco wrote:
BarryFoster wrote:

I mean, I don't know what player's knee wouldn't get fucked up from the DeCastro submarining of Pouncey's knee.


Actually it happens nearly every play: RB falling on the back on an Olineman's legs. Or a WR engaged in a block downfield and he gets rolled up from behind

This is on a different level, though:
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Thanks. I was hoping someone would come to my defense.

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BarryFoster wrote:
Thanks. I was hoping someone would come to my defense.

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