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 Post subject: Felons and Zach Orr
PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 9:31 am 
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In case you haven't been following this, the Felons team doctor basically told Orr that he had to retire because of a spinal condition. He was their leading tackler last year, and this was just as they were going to resign him, He retired, they didnt resign him, he has unretired and is shopping for a team.


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Zach Orr changes story regarding second opinion

Posted by Darin Gantt on June 30, 2017, 1:13 PM EDT

When linebacker Zach Orr announced his retirement in January, he said he talked to “multiple doctors and spine specialists” about the spinal condition which led him to walk away.

Apparently that’s not the case, but getting multiple opinions was part of his changing his mind and looking for a chance to play again.

The now-free agent linebacker told Alex Marvez and Mark Dominik on SiriusXM NFL Radio that at the time of his decision to walk away from football, he had only talked to Ravens doctors about the congenital spine deformity which was believed to put him at tremendous risk.

“It was probably a premature decision for me to retire so early just because I listened to one doctor,” Orr said. “After people found out I only went to one doctor, they were telling me, ‘You’ve got to go get a second opinion. It was kind of eating at me. Obviously, I wanted to play ball. I love ball. I went ahead and did that.

“Every opinion after that I found out that I’m not as at great a risk. Really, there was only one doctor that looked me in the eye and told me I was at greater risk. The rest of the doctors told me I wasn’t.”

That’s a pretty stark difference, and unusual that he wouldn’t have fielded multiple opinions from the start.

But with the Ravens convinced he was done playing football, they didn’t tender him as a restricted free agent. Now that he wants to return, he’s unrestricted and can sign with anyone. On the field, there’s no question. The 25-year-old Orr led the Ravens in tackles last year, and they were talking about a contract extension for him.

Now, he’s making visits, with the Lions first up, and others apparently scheduled. Those teams are all going to make sure their evaluations are thorough before they make a decision.


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/06/30/zach-orr-changes-story-regarding-second-opinion/

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 Post subject: Re: Felons and Zach Orr
PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 9:44 am 
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Zachary Orr’s retirement surely wasn’t based on one doctor’s opinion

Posted by Mike Florio on July 1, 2017, 9:32 AM EDT

As linebacker Zachary Orr tries to talk his way back into the NFL at a time when the team that previously employed him decided he can’t safely play, many are skeptical regarding his ability to receive medical clearance — and regarding the story he’s telling about past medical advice he received.

The recent claim by Orr that he retired based on only one medical opinion isn’t being received well by those who understand how the process works. As one said, it’s “beyond ridiculous” to believe that a team, a player, and/or an agent wouldn’t obtain multiple opinions on a career-ending injury.

Indeed it is. The Ravens had every reason to want Orr to be able to play. The doctors paid by the Ravens, in turn, had a strong incentive to err on the side of saying, “Sure, he can play.” With both the player and the team wanting to hear that Orr can play, there’s no way Orr would have retired based on one doctor sounding an alarm that he can’t.

For Orr, the challenge continues to be finding a doctor (or more than one) employed by a team that wants to employ Orr who won’t sound the alarm. In this climate of heightened sensitivity to player health and safety, who’s going to put his or her name on the bottom of the document that authorizes Orr to walk into the potentially enhanced risk of serious injury or death?

The risk of serious injury or death, small as it may be, exists for all NFL players. If it were to happen to anyone but Orr, it would be a gigantic problem for the game. If it were happen to Orr after he had retired due to the risk of serious injury or death due to a rare neck condition, it would push that problem to a far higher level.

At a time when some believe the league office has gotten the word out to the teams to not sign Colin Kaepernick (I personally don’t), it’s far more plausible to believe that 345 Park Avenue will be applying pressure on the various franchises to not give Orr medical clearance to play.


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/07/01/zachary-orrs-retirement-surely-wasnt-based-on-one-doctors-opinion/

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 Post subject: Re: Felons and Zach Orr
PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 4:16 pm 
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I can't believe that he would not be a Raven if he came back. He was a RFA with under 3 years of exp. I am fairly sure you can't retire to get to UFA

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 Post subject: Re: Felons and Zach Orr
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jebrick wrote:
I can't believe that he would not be a Raven if he came back. He was a RFA with under 3 years of exp. I am fairly sure you can't retire to get to UFA

he never filed retirement papers and the ravens did not put him on the injured/reserve list or what ever they needed to do to retain his rights. Basically two paperwork errors led to him being an UFA.


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 Post subject: Re: Felons and Zach Orr
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I thought the Bengals were the Felons.


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