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 Post subject: Re: Chiefs-Pats
PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:22 am 
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My biggest grip with that game, believe it or not, was late in the fourth when Hill (I think) scored on a long play down the left sideline and ran into the padded wall behind the endzone. The Pats fans threw beer right in his face (live). NBC showed the play over four times, but cut it off right as he hit the wall/fence not showing the fans cheap-ass reaction. If that happened in Pittsburgh (or anywhere else) no doubt they would have shown the fans throwing beer in the opponents face over and over again, all the while, shaming the home fans and saying how low there are for doing it. But, it's the Pats and they cant have a negative image...right? What horseshit....


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 Post subject: Re: Chiefs-Pats
PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:25 am 
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Poltargyst wrote:
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I watched Walking Dead instead, they don't review the hard hits, unless you also watch Talking Dead, which I don't. It's all entertainment.

I'm glad you did what entertained you. I'm being entertained watching the game tonight. And couldn't care less about the Walking Dead in any case.


I only watch the Steelers and Pitt Panthers, maybe a little NFLRZ, that's about it. That's way more than enough.


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 Post subject: Re: Chiefs-Pats
PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:27 am 
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Chiefs and Pats are playing the ball that the NFL wants right now. Scoring, scoring and more scoring.

Stat whores rejoice; fantasy football takes over and NFL regains some popularity. 43-40 in a primetime game? Jeesh,

Bigger issue I have is that these two teams understand how you win in this league now. Shitty defense? No problem. We are going to hang 35+ burgers on you and dare you to go score for score with us. Last possession wins.

It’s shitty, stupid football and the Pats, Chiefs (and rams for that matter) have it dialed. I’ll say though the offensive schemes these teams have put together are really impressive.

Fitchner has his work cut out for him if he’s going to have a chance beating these teams in January.


Maybe you haven’t noticed that the Steelers are averaging 28.5 points per game, good for 7th in the NFL?

Less than a point per game behind the Patriots?

Fichtner is quietly doing a very good job...there are some new things going on here that neither Haley nor Arians did in their time here.

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 Post subject: Re: Chiefs-Pats
PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:28 am 
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Jeemie wrote:
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Chiefs and Pats are playing the ball that the NFL wants right now. Scoring, scoring and more scoring.

Stat whores rejoice; fantasy football takes over and NFL regains some popularity. 43-40 in a primetime game? Jeesh,

Bigger issue I have is that these two teams understand how you win in this league now. Shitty defense? No problem. We are going to hang 35+ burgers on you and dare you to go score for score with us. Last possession wins.

It’s shitty, stupid football and the Pats, Chiefs (and rams for that matter) have it dialed. I’ll say though the offensive schemes these teams have put together are really impressive.

Fitchner has his work cut out for him if he’s going to have a chance beating these teams in January.


Maybe you haven’t noticed that the Steelers are averaging 28.5 points per game, good for 7th in the NFL?

Less than a point per game behind the Patriots?

Fichtner is quietly doing a very good job...there are some new things going on here that neither Haley nor Arians did in their time here.

They also have a high RZ TD %


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 Post subject: Re: Chiefs-Pats
PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:30 am 
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My biggest grip with that game, believe it or not, was late in the fourth when Hill (I think) scored on a long play down the left sideline and ran into the padded wall behind the endzone. The Pats fans threw beer right in his face (live). NBC showed the play over four times, but cut it off right as he hit the wall/fence not showing the fans cheap-ass reaction. If that happened in Pittsburgh (or anywhere else) no doubt they would have shown the fans throwing beer in the opponents face over and over again, all the while, shaming the home fans and saying how low there are for doing it. But, it's the Pats and they cant have a negative image...right? What horseshit....


My biggest gripe was them showing Brady’s swiveling hips.

Like no one else in the NFL does any work in throwing mechanics.

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 Post subject: Re: Chiefs-Pats
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That’s not what I’m referring to Jeemie, and 7th is fine, but can they sustain it?

What I’m talking about is approaching games with the mindset that we are going to score score and score and what the other team does is completely insignificant in what we do. Being down two scores early and THEN kicking it into gear isn’t going to work against teams like the Pats and Chiefs. I don’t trust Tomlin to have that mentality yet; even yesterday it almost felt like he was trying to keep the game close and win it at the end (which we have seen him do time after time).

Fitchner has done a pretty good job but some real big gaps in some of the games we’ve been playing. Second half against BAL is inexcusable even against their stout defense. No points in second half against TB damn near cost us that game.

That shit rears it’s ugly head in Foxboro or Arrowhead and we will lose and it’s not even debatable.


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 Post subject: Re: Chiefs-Pats
PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:40 am 
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The thing about today's NFL is that you want your defense and special teams to support your offense.

NE did intercept Mahommes twice. Hightower and that one INT return was a beauty. KC did get that fumble by Brady to help set up their offense. The return game on special teams, you need that to help your offenses.

We so far have done well with Switz on returns, he can be a weapon, can set up our offense. Danny Smith needs to tighten up the coverage teams on returns.

Our defense is not going to keep teams to 20 points or less but if they can get turnovers, give our offense more opportunities to score, and even score themselves. Fort, Dupree have scored TDs, we have gotten a safety. That has to be embraced, to have a defense that can get turnovers. I think they need to amp up the blitzes, go nuts, force QBs into turnovers. Yeah, you may get burned but you are also more likely to get turnovers that way. To not blitz, to play soft you are going to suffer a game of a thousand cuts as teams methodically move down the field and score anyway.

There is still one missing piece on our offense and that is the Bryant outside WR/deep threat. I still believe in James Washington. If they can take this bye, work on the offense and getting him involved it will make this offense really take off.

One last thing, it was refreshing to see us take the opening kickoff on offense. Yes. This has to continue, you win the coin toss you put your offense on the field first. Deferring kickoffs and putting your defense on the field first is admitting defeat in my opinion. In today's NFL you have to assume that the other team will score first if you kickoff to them first. You want the ball first, you want to score first, to dictate the game, put the pressure on the other team, to do otherwise is being a pussy and playing a losing game.

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 Post subject: Re: Chiefs-Pats
PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:54 am 
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Nick79 wrote:
Poltargyst wrote:
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I watched Walking Dead instead, they don't review the hard hits, unless you also watch Talking Dead, which I don't. It's all entertainment.

I'm glad you did what entertained you. I'm being entertained watching the game tonight. And couldn't care less about the Walking Dead in any case.


I only watch the Steelers and Pitt Panthers, maybe a little NFLRZ, that's about it. That's way more than enough.



I'd argue that the Walking Dead hasn't been entertaining since...well, since about the last time the NFL was probably entertaining.


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 Post subject: Re: Chiefs-Pats
PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:19 am 
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Kodiak wrote:
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Pats ended up with 0 penalties. Zilch. Not one. How the fuck is that possible? Same old shit again. Year after year after year.


The only explanation is the NFL suits decided what the league really needed.....was a Yankees franchise - 10% of the country loves them, the rest hates them and that's all good for business. If Brady and Belicheat were actually likeable, it doesn't work does it?


I was thinking the same thing with Burfict. If you remove him the Bengals games are not nearly as exciting. I live in Stamford CT and it is not that far of a stretch to think WWE does not creep it’s way into NFL HQ. WWE HQ, NBC Universal, XFL HQ, and I wouldn’t be surprised if there were some NFL offices in Stamford too. You fine a guy a zillion dollars and suspend him, and you have your villain and the ratings and rivalry increase. I am not saying they do it on purpose, but it is not a bad business model if you can do it within the existing system and don’t actually hand out scripts and fix games.

Your Yankee analogy isn’t that crazy.


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 Post subject: Re: Chiefs-Pats
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I found Collinsworth calling Brady Goat over and over pretty repulsive. Once would have been ok i guess, like as a joke sort of thing. But after a while he was using it regularly. No Tom, no Brady, just goat. Whomever coined that term with him id like to kick in the nuts.


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 Post subject: Re: Chiefs-Pats
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Louis Lipps Service wrote:


I'd argue that the Walking Dead hasn't been entertaining since...well, since about the last time the NFL was probably entertaining.


Stuff like that is opinion oriented, TV ratings say you're wrong about the NFL and TWD, I figure TWD is soon to be done, and since I've watched it all, why stop now?


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 Post subject: Re: Chiefs-Pats
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Stuff like that is opinion oriented, TV ratings say you're wrong about the NFL and TWD, I figure TWD is soon to be done, and since I've watched it all, why stop now?

The Walking Dead's season debut was 6 million viewers - that's half last year's season opener, and a 66% drop from 2 years ago.

I really enjoyed season 1. Season 2 and 3 were just boring. By season 4, i started to viscerally hate everyone on the show and was actively rooting for the zombies. I stopped watching by season 5.

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 Post subject: Re: Chiefs-Pats
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The Pats fans threw beer right in his face (live). NBC showed the play over four times, but cut it off right as he hit the wall/fence not showing the fans cheap-ass reaction.

Correction... one Pats fan SPIT beer into Hill's face, the others just gave him the double finger salute.

And, Jeemie... let's talk Offense scoring:

1. 36.0 NO= 180/5
2. 33.5 KC=201/6
3. 30.3 LAR= 182/6
4. 29.3 NE= 176/6
5. 29.2 LAC= 175/6
6. 27.8 ATL=167/6
7. 26.2 PIT= 157/6
8. 25.5 CIN= 153/6
8. 25.5 BAL= 153/6
10 26.8 TB= 134/5

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The Pats fans threw beer right in his face (live). NBC showed the play over four times, but cut it off right as he hit the wall/fence not showing the fans cheap-ass reaction.

Correction... one Pats fan SPIT beer into Hill's face, the others just gave him the double finger salute.

And, Jeemie... let's talk Offense scoring:

1. 36.0 NO= 180/5
2. 33.5 KC=201/6
3. 30.3 LAR= 182/6
4. 29.3 NE= 176/6
5. 29.2 LAC= 175/6
6. 27.8 ATL=167/6
7. 26.2 PIT= 157/6
8. 25.5 CIN= 153/6
8. 25.5 BAL= 153/6
10 26.8 TB= 134/5


OK- Still 7th. Held back by one bad game against Baltimore.

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 Post subject: Re: Chiefs-Pats
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Pabst wrote:
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Stuff like that is opinion oriented, TV ratings say you're wrong about the NFL and TWD, I figure TWD is soon to be done, and since I've watched it all, why stop now?

The Walking Dead's season debut was 6 million viewers - that's half last year's season opener, and a 66% drop from 2 years ago.

I really enjoyed season 1. Season 2 and 3 were just boring. By season 4, i started to viscerally hate everyone on the show and was actively rooting for the zombies. I stopped watching by season 5.

Like I said, it's all opinion based, I still like it and watch it now.


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 Post subject: Re: Chiefs-Pats
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
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The Pats fans threw beer right in his face (live). NBC showed the play over four times, but cut it off right as he hit the wall/fence not showing the fans cheap-ass reaction.

Correction... one Pats fan SPIT beer into Hill's face, the others just gave him the double finger salute.

And, Jeemie... let's talk Offense scoring:

1. 36.0 NO= 180/5
2. 33.5 KC=201/6
3. 30.3 LAR= 182/6
4. 29.3 NE= 176/6
5. 29.2 LAC= 175/6
6. 27.8 ATL=167/6
7. 26.2 PIT= 157/6
8. 25.5 CIN= 153/6
8. 25.5 BAL= 153/6
10 26.8 TB= 134/5

Thanks B2B. I didn't replay (it was late), but that explains why the liquid came out the way it did. Thought it looked weird for just throwing a cup of beer. Saw the two "I think you're number one" too. Also, later saw Hill talking to teammates about it while he cleaned is helmet off with a towel.

Have your seen any media covering those asshole actions?


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Pats ended up with 0 penalties. Zilch. Not one. How the fuck is that possible? Same old shit again. Year after year after year.


The only explanation is the NFL suits decided what the league really needed.....was a Yankees franchise - 10% of the country loves them, the rest hates them and that's all good for business. If Brady and Belicheat were actually likeable, it doesn't work does it?


If you said this to Patriots fans, they'd laugh in your face. There's only one other fan base that hates Roger the Clown as much as we do, and that's the Patriots.

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 Post subject: Re: Chiefs-Pats
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Pabst wrote:
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Stuff like that is opinion oriented, TV ratings say you're wrong about the NFL and TWD, I figure TWD is soon to be done, and since I've watched it all, why stop now?

The Walking Dead's season debut was 6 million viewers - that's half last year's season opener, and a 66% drop from 2 years ago.

I really enjoyed season 1. Season 2 and 3 were just boring. By season 4, i started to viscerally hate everyone on the show and was actively rooting for the zombies. I stopped watching by season 5.
yeah. I'm in the same boat. Like all series', they add filler to make it last longer than it should to rack up advert dollars. "Lost" had the balls to replay highlights of the previous seasons for the entire 5th season, IIRC, and closed out the series in the sixth.

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W&M_Steeler wrote:
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Pats ended up with 0 penalties. Zilch. Not one. How the fuck is that possible? Same old shit again. Year after year after year.


They had an illegal procedure called against them, but the Chiefs declined it.


That's gotta be nearly statistically impossible for a regular season NFL game


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Donnie Brasco wrote:
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Pats ended up with 0 penalties. Zilch. Not one. How the fuck is that possible? Same old shit again. Year after year after year.


They had an illegal procedure called against them, but the Chiefs declined it.


That's gotta be nearly statistically impossible for a regular season NFL game

Agreed. So this team never makes a mistake. Ever. Same as last year when they went on a run of no penalties. I think they had one in the AFC Champ. game vs Jax, which had never happened before. Usually they get a couple token off-sides or a false start. Now its no penalties. You ever notice on a Pats long gain or on a td it never gets called back? I bet its been years since that has happened. This is going to be a year long theme with them to. Every year i start fresh thinking, this is the year they get their big injury. This is the year it all falls apart. Nah, some shit team gifts them players like Moss or Gordon and the train keeps rolling along.


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