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 Post subject: Re: Harvey Weinstein
PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:49 pm 
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Still Lit wrote:
You act as if a person's inner life and motives are irrelevant.

Only someone who views ethics solely from the point of view of results would claim they are the same.


Ahhhh! So it's only when we can qualify the motivations for failing to speak that we may condemn them?

Or is it simply that a hypocrite is a hypocrite? Whether coward or hypocrite, BOTH fail to be strong. In neither case are they people that can be taken seriously or credibly.

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 Post subject: Re: Harvey Weinstein
PostPosted: Sun Oct 15, 2017 9:08 pm 
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Kodiak wrote:
Still Lit wrote:
You act as if a person's inner life and motives are irrelevant.

Only someone who views ethics solely from the point of view of results would claim they are the same.


Ahhhh! So it's only when we can qualify the motivations for failing to speak that we may condemn them?

Or is it simply that a hypocrite is a hypocrite? Whether coward or hypocrite, BOTH fail to be strong. In neither case are they people that can be taken seriously or credibly.


I'll just say this: consequences cannot ground unconditional moral obligation. Utility simply fails in that regard. Utility is a fine beacon for policy concerning the aggregate, but it simply cannot ground morality.

So yes, one's intentions do affect the moral worth of an action if one subscribes to deontology or eudaemonism. Your inability to see this just shows the limited range of your exposure to ethical principles.

And yes, if you cannot see that being a moral failure as a coward is different from being a moral failure as a hypocrite, them you don not understand hypocrasy.

Kant. Grounding for a Future Metaphysics of Morals or the Critique of Practical Reason Both are smashing reads and fine commentaries are readily available for both. They are not easy texts.

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