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 Post subject: AMZN East...Burgh in the running?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 3:21 pm 
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I'm guessing it comes down to Pitt, Nashville, Memphis, Charlotte or an about to be rebuilt Orlando.

50 K jobs is enormous, let's hope these cities don't get stupid about it though with the corporate welfare.

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 Post subject: Re: AMZN East...Burgh in the running?
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They might be w/holding their announcement to muster support for their move to buy Target. All of the muni's that hope to land the deal won't object to Amazon becoming a monopoly. After whole foods deal target deal cannot be allowed, they'll control too much of the supply side wholesalers. We have anti trust laws for a reason.


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 Post subject: Re: AMZN East...Burgh in the running?
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I'd be surprised if it ends up in PA, unions want too much.


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 Post subject: Re: AMZN East...Burgh in the running?
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If I were Jeff Bezos, I'd lay a $1 billion bet down on Halifax, Nova Scotia; announce that as the HQ, collect my $100b winnings, then retire.

Unfortunately, I'm not Jeff Bezos, so I'm guessing the winner will be Austin.

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 Post subject: Re: AMZN East...Burgh in the running?
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good luck finding someone that will take that action

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MDSteelfan65 wrote:
I'd be surprised if it ends up in PA, unions want too much.


They’re already up my way. 2 dist. Warehouses and the planes in and out round the clock

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 Post subject: Re: AMZN East...Burgh in the running?
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Old School Steeler wrote:
They might be w/holding their announcement to muster support for their move to buy Target. All of the muni's that hope to land the deal won't object to Amazon becoming a monopoly. After whole foods deal target deal cannot be allowed, they'll control too much of the supply side wholesalers. We have anti trust laws for a reason.


Agreed ......reminds me of the fictional BiLo franchise in the Wall-e movie......it’s totally a take on Amazon

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 Post subject: Re: AMZN East...Burgh in the running?
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BethlehemSteel wrote:
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They might be w/holding their announcement to muster support for their move to buy Target. All of the muni's that hope to land the deal won't object to Amazon becoming a monopoly. After whole foods deal target deal cannot be allowed, they'll control too much of the supply side wholesalers. We have anti trust laws for a reason.


Agreed ......reminds me of the fictional BiLo franchise in the Wall-e movie......it’s totally a take on Amazon


There are still a few Bi-Lo's in western pa

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 Post subject: Re: AMZN East...Burgh in the running?
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Old School Steeler wrote:
They might be w/holding their announcement to muster support for their move to buy Target. All of the muni's that hope to land the deal won't object to Amazon becoming a monopoly. After whole foods deal target deal cannot be allowed, they'll control too much of the supply side wholesalers. We have anti trust laws for a reason.


Depends on if they consider Target a supply side wholesaler or retailer and then from there figure out how much market share Amazon would control. But I agree Anti-Trust laws should block something like this. However, I doubt they will.

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 Post subject: Re: AMZN East...Burgh in the running?
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StillerInCT wrote:
Old School Steeler wrote:
They might be w/holding their announcement to muster support for their move to buy Target. All of the muni's that hope to land the deal won't object to Amazon becoming a monopoly. After whole foods deal target deal cannot be allowed, they'll control too much of the supply side wholesalers. We have anti trust laws for a reason.


Depends on if they consider Target a supply side wholesaler or retailer and then from there figure out how much market share Amazon would control. But I agree Anti-Trust laws should block something like this. However, I doubt they will.


I think this time around, this deal will not happen. Amazon has killed off at least 5-10 big retailers so far.

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 Post subject: Re: AMZN East...Burgh in the running?
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BethlehemSteel wrote:
StillerInCT wrote:
Old School Steeler wrote:
They might be w/holding their announcement to muster support for their move to buy Target. All of the muni's that hope to land the deal won't object to Amazon becoming a monopoly. After whole foods deal target deal cannot be allowed, they'll control too much of the supply side wholesalers. We have anti trust laws for a reason.


Depends on if they consider Target a supply side wholesaler or retailer and then from there figure out how much market share Amazon would control. But I agree Anti-Trust laws should block something like this. However, I doubt they will.


I think this time around, this deal will not happen. Amazon has killed off at least 5-10 big retailers so far.



Kroger is waiting, their deal with Ace on hold or shifted to something less than acquisition. Kids in law school might do well to intern with anti trust firms


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 Post subject: Re: AMZN East...Burgh in the running?
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Dan Smith--BYU wrote:
I'm guessing it comes down to Pitt, Nashville, Memphis, Charlotte or an about to be rebuilt Orlando.

50 K jobs is enormous, let's hope these cities don't get stupid about it though with the corporate welfare.


Depends what amazon values: worker pool or major tax subsidies?


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 Post subject: Re: AMZN East...Burgh in the running?
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Donnie Brasco wrote:
Dan Smith--BYU wrote:
I'm guessing it comes down to Pitt, Nashville, Memphis, Charlotte or an about to be rebuilt Orlando.

50 K jobs is enormous, let's hope these cities don't get stupid about it though with the corporate welfare.


Depends what amazon values: worker pool or major tax subsidies?

Which is why I think they will go to Newark. Rich talent pool in NYC area and strong schools in Jersey (Rutgers, Princeton, Rowan). And Jersey has pitched a sweetheart deal rich on incentives and tax breaks. Basically Amazon is being given just about anything they want in either Newark or Camden. They can pick between greater NYC or greater Philly. The Camden offer has been rumored to include a pretty sizeable regionale airport in nearby Millville NJ (Home of Mike Trout).

New Jersey has offered up a $7 BILLION incentive package to Amazon for HQ2.
https://qz.com/1175659/the-darker-side- ... eepstakes/

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 Post subject: Re: AMZN East...Burgh in the running?
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So are Camden in Newark no longer cesspools? I'm out of the loop.

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 Post subject: Re: AMZN East...Burgh in the running?
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So are Camden in Newark no longer cesspools? I'm out of the loop.


They are cesspools. But they have tons of real estate/buildings that are ripe to be taken over or even just razed to build a new campus. They have direct public transit in (and out) of two major cities. Camden is actually interesting as the waterfront, Rutgers-Camden, and areas around the two major hospitals is pretty nice. The commute from Camden to Center City Philly is just 5 minutes on the PATCO high speed line. Philly has a pretty sizable pool of engineering and tech talent to draw from. I don't think think current cesspool would scare amazon at all. It is probably beneficial for them to take over a diamond in rough as they can get it much cheaper. As long as trans and infrastructure is solid and the area talent pool is large they will likely be interested. $7 billion in incentives can polish up any turd.

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 Post subject: Re: AMZN East...Burgh in the running?
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But those turds are petrified

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 Post subject: Re: AMZN East...Burgh in the running?
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Looks like we're down to the top 20. My money is still on Austin:
Atlanta
Austin, Texas
Boston
Chicago
Columbus, Ohio
Dallas
Denver
Indianapolis
Los Angeles
Miami
Montgomery County, Md.
Nashville, Tenn.
Newark, N.J.
New York City
Northern Virginia
Philadelphia
Pittsburgh
Raleigh, N.C.
Toronto
Washington, D.C.

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 Post subject: Re: AMZN East...Burgh in the running?
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Pabst wrote:
Looks like we're down to the top 20. My money is still on Austin:
Atlanta
Austin, Texas
Boston
Chicago
Columbus, Ohio
Dallas
Denver
Indianapolis
Los Angeles
Miami
Montgomery County, Md.
Nashville, Tenn.
Newark, N.J.
New York City
Northern Virginia
Philadelphia
Pittsburgh
Raleigh, N.C.
Toronto
Washington, D.C.



Half that list is bogus, the tax suspension piece, the sheer volume of Amazon orders into those MSAs and incentives for final tweaks from the four or five short listers explain the straw man cities. Employees would not want to live work play in some of these places. Wouldn't be surprised if Pittsburgh is finalist but its tax piece could kill the deal.


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 Post subject: Re: AMZN East...Burgh in the running?
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Old School Steeler wrote:
Pabst wrote:
Looks like we're down to the top 20. My money is still on Austin:
Atlanta
Austin, Texas
Boston
Chicago
Columbus, Ohio
Dallas
Denver
Indianapolis
Los Angeles
Miami
Montgomery County, Md.
Nashville, Tenn.
Newark, N.J.
New York City
Northern Virginia
Philadelphia
Pittsburgh
Raleigh, N.C.
Toronto
Washington, D.C.



Half that list is bogus, the tax suspension piece, the sheer volume of Amazon orders into those MSAs and incentives for final tweaks from the four or five short listers explain the straw man cities. Employees would not want to live work play in some of these places. Wouldn't be surprised if Pittsburgh is finalist but its tax piece could kill the deal.



I think it will be one of these 4...

Newark, DC/Northern VA, Austin, Pittsburgh...

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Old School Steeler wrote:
Half that list is bogus, the tax suspension piece, the sheer volume of Amazon orders into those MSAs and incentives for final tweaks from the four or five short listers explain the straw man cities. Employees would not want to live work play in some of these places. Wouldn't be surprised if Pittsburgh is finalist but its tax piece could kill the deal.

The entire process is bogus. Amazon knows damn well where they intend to go, they're just using this process to gain incentives from that city.

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I think it will be one of these 4...

Newark, DC/Northern VA, Austin, Pittsburgh...

I feel like Raleigh is a dark horse. But hey, who knows.

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 Post subject: Re: AMZN East...Burgh in the running?
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Found this thread amusing:

https://twitter.com/iowahawkblog/status/954017861617451008

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 Post subject: Re: AMZN East...Burgh in the running?
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if No VA doesn't already have the worst traffic on the east coast, just add that Amazon HQ

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 Post subject: Re: AMZN East...Burgh in the running?
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Pabst wrote:
Looks like we're down to the top 20. My money is still on Austin:
Atlanta
Austin, Texas
Boston
Chicago
Columbus, Ohio
Dallas
Denver
Indianapolis
Los Angeles
Miami
Montgomery County, Md.
Nashville, Tenn.
Newark, N.J.
New York City
Northern Virginia
Philadelphia
Pittsburgh
Raleigh, N.C.
Toronto
Washington, D.C.


Yea I'd rank Austin high on that list too

My guesses:
Nashville
Austin
Raleigh
Indy as a darkhorse


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 Post subject: Re: AMZN East...Burgh in the running?
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My money is on ATL

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 Post subject: Re: AMZN East...Burgh in the running?
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A lot of people speculating the DC area because they feel Bezos can use it swing some clout in Washington. Not sure I buy or even understand that argument but that is one theory going around.

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