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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Canes
PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:09 pm 
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Team is shit.


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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Canes
PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:21 pm 
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..this team stinks like shit.


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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Canes
PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:23 pm 
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so much for the feel good philly win. :?


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:12 pm 
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YES, perhaps I was wrong about the turnaround.

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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Canes
PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:32 pm 
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I was patient in October and November and even last month, but it's officially time to hit the panic button. They are in serious trouble and in danger of missing the playoffs


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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Canes
PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:16 pm 
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I can't believe how they went from playing well in the first to total shit. Well, I can believe because it happens too often this year.

So many problems:
no real third line center and they probably are not going to address it. With Rowney out now they have shit in that regard. I like Guentzel but he isn't the answer at center. In fact he got taken from that spot last night and replaced by double shifting Crosby and Malkin. Rowney is out at least 4 weeks.
Maybe that forces Rutherford's hand since they really don't have the answer in WBS.

This shifting of the lines every night, every period isn't helping with continuity. Then again injuries are catching up and the lack of depth in the bottom six is bad.

Ward commented post game that it wasn't much of a challenge last night. He also said that other tenders in the league have said the same thing to him as well after playing the Pens.

When Crosby slumps like this in the past it has led to coaching changes. Could he(maybe others) be sick of Sullivan already? No way they make that change but if the team is sour on him...WOW!
Could it be Tocchet moving on and Recchi not being capable?

I think the number problem is a lack of focus and effort. How this roster can't score on a consistent basis leads me to believe such.


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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Canes
PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 3:20 pm 
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Good stuff, Fractal. I too am mystified by how poor they look. It’s not just the personnel; the effort is palpably bad.

Some might not agree but I think Sid is as good as a talent evaluator as anyone in the organization and his uninspired play makes me think he saw this shit coming in October. I think he misses the gang and knows that the replacements lack the key things that made this team so great the last few years.

I cannot believe I’m going to say this by I really miss Kunitz, Adams and even Ron Friggin Hainsey. Yeah, for some reason they made this system work. Jake Guentzel looks almost worthless in this offense now. He got hot at the end of last year and all of a sudden he’s supposed to be the fit? Well Sid’s body language tells me he doesn’t really have a lot of confidence in these guys. That doesn’t make it right for him to dog it, but I’ve played hockey my whole life and nothing is more frustrating out on the ice than lack of cohesion, poor passing and guys not being in the correct positions. There is an overall lack of chemistry on this team right now and having world class players like Sid, Phil, Letang and Malkin cannot automatically solve that.

Credit to the Canes last night. That is how you play hockey. Pens should watch that tape and use that as an example of getting your asses beat all night.

And good for Ward for talking a bit of shit, because it’s about the most accurate thing that can be said. This team doesn’t challenge anyone right now. Nobody.


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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Canes
PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 3:44 pm 
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Good stuff, Fractal. I too am mystified by how poor they look. It’s not just the personnel; the effort is palpably bad.

Some might not agree but I think Sid is as good as a talent evaluator as anyone in the organization and his uninspired play makes me think he saw this shit coming in October. I think he misses the gang and knows that the replacements lack the key things that made this team so great the last few years.

I cannot believe I’m going to say this by I really miss Kunitz, Adams and even Ron Friggin Hainsey. Yeah, for some reason they made this system work. Jake Guentzel looks almost worthless in this offense now. He got hot at the end of last year and all of a sudden he’s supposed to be the fit? Well Sid’s body language tells me he doesn’t really have a lot of confidence in these guys. That doesn’t make it right for him to dog it, but I’ve played hockey my whole life and nothing is more frustrating out on the ice than lack of cohesion, poor passing and guys not being in the correct positions. There is an overall lack of chemistry on this team right now and having world class players like Sid, Phil, Letang and Malkin cannot automatically solve that.

Credit to the Canes last night. That is how you play hockey. Pens should watch that tape and use that as an example of getting your asses beat all night.

And good for Ward for talking a bit of shit, because it’s about the most accurate thing that can be said. This team doesn’t challenge anyone right now. Nobody.


Canes are a legit good hockey team and I had them making the playoffs, but I expected it to be on the back of Darling. Some really good young/fast defenders

Regardless the effort as many said was terribad...there's zero excuse for that. NONE. This team has dug itself a major grave


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