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 Post subject: Penguins Regular Season Thread 2018-19
PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:31 pm 
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Put all between-game thoughts here.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 12:50 pm 
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I hope Sully made the team watch the Geno backhand pass into traffic in the high slot over and over and over.

“Here is, arguably, the most skilled player in the NHL. But being skilled doesn’t mean you can make plays without thinking, because when you do... and again.”

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Murray got another concussion during practice.

Out with no timetable on his return (although I'm sure that speaks to the unpredictable nature of concussions more than the severity).


Man, I'm really starting to think Murray fades out of this league sooner rather than later.


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Riikola in for Maatta. Too early in the season to pull a Scandinavian Switch?

Really hope we get Jarry up for some games.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 10:39 pm 
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Grant was placed on waivers to make room for Jarry. Hope he clears.

Early updates on some of our favorite players!

Carter Rowney 3 GP 1 G 0 A 1 PT + 0 ATOI 14:04 (45% FO) $1.133 million
Ryan Reaves 3 GP 0 G 0 A 0 PT -1 ATOI 10:12 $2.775 million
Tom Kuhnhackl 1 GP 0 G 0 A 0 PT +1 ATOI 11:42 $700

Yep. Still pretty useless.

Then again, I probably shouldn't list what Rust, Hagelin, Sheahan, and Cullen are doing either.


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 Post subject: Re: Penguins Regular Season Thread 2018-19
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4th line has scrapped pretty well up to this point. I don't miss Rowney and Mooseknuckle.


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Schultz out 4 months with lower leg fracture.


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Louis Lipps Service wrote:
Schultz out 4 months with lower leg fracture.


We'll see what Johnson and Rikko are all about over the next 4 months.

Depending on how things go with Schultz out, this may be the last season you see him in a Pens uniform


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:16 pm 
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Donnie Brasco wrote:
Louis Lipps Service wrote:
Schultz out 4 months with lower leg fracture.


We'll see what Johnson and Rikko are all about over the next 4 months.

Depending on how things go with Schultz out, this may be the last season you see him in a Pens uniform


Rough break, because I thin average 5th/6th D-man is about Johnson's ceiling, and Riikola definitely had his worst NHL game against the Habs.


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Donnie Brasco wrote:
Louis Lipps Service wrote:
Schultz out 4 months with lower leg fracture.


We'll see what Johnson and Rikko are all about over the next 4 months.

Depending on how things go with Schultz out, this may be the last season you see him in a Pens uniform


Four months is going to be like a lifetime and there will be other injuries. I like Riikola but Johnson to me is meh. I hope Johnson is just getting adjusted to a new team but...
I have a strange feeling that the Pens are going to have to trade for another D man at some point. Haven't heard too much about any prospects on the blue line coming from WBS.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:47 pm 
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Can't Rikko and Olek play both sides?

Believe they'll roll without Schultz for those 4 months unless another long term injury occurs. I suggest Mike Green, that's a good replacement if the cost to acquire is right


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 Post subject: Re: Penguins Regular Season Thread 2018-19
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Donnie Brasco wrote:
Can't Rikko and Olek play both sides?

Believe they'll roll without Schultz for those 4 months unless another long term injury occurs. I suggest Mike Green, that's a good replacement if the cost to acquire is right


If you mean Oleksiak can suck from both sides, yes.

It's really a shame that Jack Johnson was signed. If anything this makes the Reaves and Hunwick signings look like small potatoes. Schultz was probably going to go anyway after this season, so maybe damaged goods will get him at a better price.


Either way, minus "Good" Letang and Dumoulin and Riikola (maybe), I don't see the need to keep any of the current defensemen. That says a lot because, while I wasn't a huge fan, I stuck by Maatta with the protection of statistics. I can't do that anymore. If this group is remolded over the next few years, all the better.

The thing that's even more confounding than the love for Reaves last year is the justification and praise for Jack Johnson I see on other boards. I pointed out that -110 +/- for Johnson was pretty tellling. The user, who is one of the more-known posters, responded that "he has played 10 seasons" like it was the reason it was so low, and that Justin Schultz was -67 before coming to Pittsburgh. Ok. So Justin Schultz wasn't a terrible defensemen before coming to Pitt? I could also point to about 50 billion NHL players who had long careers that were plus in +/-.

Fucking weird.

Honestly, Green or Daley would be good fits. Mike Green was more-or-less signed to become an asset in a trade. Both run through next year. Green would be preferable, although if Schultz comes back before too long, I don't think they'd be able to fit both under the cap. A team might want Oleksiak in return?


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 Post subject: Re: Penguins Regular Season Thread 2018-19
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Fun article and a nice look at how the team travels.
https://www.nhl.com/penguins/news/insid ... -301027206


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Couple of players said that the coaching staff's decision not to go home after Toronto and make it into a true "road trip" helped very much with the bonding of the team. We'll see how it pays dividends going forward.


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Auston Matthews out 4 weeks.


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Ice wrote:
Auston Matthews out 4 weeks.


Hope none of ya'll live in Toronto- they may start rioting


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 Post subject: Re: Penguins Regular Season Thread 2018-19
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Random thoughts one month in:
- I really think the hot starts from the Canes and Devils are due to favorable schedules. I think both are bubble playoff teams. NJ starts a 7 game road trip today
- In a weird twist, CBJ's defense and goaltending have been terrible.
- Philly's has been worse, and it looks like that team may have quit. Wouldn't be shocked to see Hakstol get the boot mid-season.
- Islanders have been a surprise. As have Montreal and Buffalo
- Florida has been a surprise in the other direction. Luongo needs to get healthy fast
- The Central Division is goddamn stacked. St Louis is going to regret giving up 2 first rounders for O'Reilly, because they won't compete.
- Arizona is starting to look legit
- WTF happened to the Kings?

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Pabst wrote:
Random thoughts one month in:
- I really think the hot starts from the Canes and Devils are due to favorable schedules. I think both are bubble playoff teams. NJ starts a 7 game road trip today
- In a weird twist, CBJ's defense and goaltending have been terrible.
- Philly's has been worse, and it looks like that team may have quit. Wouldn't be shocked to see Hakstol get the boot mid-season.
- Islanders have been a surprise. As have Montreal and Buffalo
- Florida has been a surprise in the other direction. Luongo needs to get healthy fast
- The Central Division is goddamn stacked. St Louis is going to regret giving up 2 first rounders for O'Reilly, because they won't compete.
- Arizona is starting to look legit
- WTF happened to the Kings?


I think the Canes are a legit team. NJ is not
Bobrosky was bitching about the new chest protectors, probably feeling a bit shell shocked. They'll still make the playoffs
Philly's goaltending sucks (what's new?)
NYI have Trozt coaching them, they'll improve but not to the playoffs. Montreal is the biggest surprise to me. Domi looks like he's a budding star. Buffalo has Eichel and Skinner together...that's a dangerous line
StL is about to get Yeo fired
Arizona's start was surprising, they are beginning to come together. I have them as a playoff team
Kings are old and slow. They added Kovalchuck and nothing else.


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Carolina is tough for me to figure out. Their shots for & shots against are both best in the league; but holy shit have their special teams been bad. Something has to give.

And I have a tough time trusting any team with Scott Darling and Peter Mrazek in net.

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Canes have some terrific talent. I actually like a lot of NJ's pieces, too, but I'll agree with Donnie on Canes a playoff team, NJ, likely not so much; but close.
CBJ just miss The Incredible Jack Johnson on defense.
If Philly wants to can a coach mid-season, Disco is tanned, rested and ready to take over.
Based on where they were last year, and what I considered to be a bunch of WTF trades and signings, Montreal is looking waaay better than I thought they would. I figured they'd be a Disco Dan candidate by January. Could have been perfect symmetry.
Florida sucking means we can continue to wish for their forwards at the deadline this year and not get any.
I don't think there was any way St. Louis wasn't going to regret that move.
The fact that one of those WTF Montreal moves may have benefited both teams makes it even more impressive in hindsight.
Kovalchuck wasn't going to do anything that has been on a downward trend for a while.

Honestly, we're selling our Pittsburgh Penguins a little short. Wins over some very impressive teams, the least regulation losses in the league, one of the best records, and some of the statistical ranks are just crazy, as well. Early days, though.


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 Post subject: Re: Penguins Regular Season Thread 2018-19
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The Flyers lack of goal scoring is interesting-too much talent there not to be putting more pucks in the net. I'm hoping they panic and call up Hart thinking he is the cure-all to their problems and they ruin him early in his career.

Kovalchuk is going to turn out to be a bad signing.


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The Flyers lack of goal scoring is interesting-too much talent there not to be putting more pucks in the net. I'm hoping they panic and call up Hart thinking he is the cure-all to their problems and they ruin him early in his career.

Kovalchuk is going to turn out to be a bad signing.


Philly and Giroux in particular overachieved last season- they were not a playoff team.

I disagree about Kovalchuk. Dude can still play, but he's a bad fit for that team.
He's not a guy who can push a team to non contender to the playoffs, but he's still an asset.


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 Post subject: Re: Penguins Regular Season Thread 2018-19
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Just to clarify on Carolina - I think they'll be competing for a #3 or WC spot, not the division lead (as they are right now).

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Donnie Brasco wrote:
fractalsteel wrote:
The Flyers lack of goal scoring is interesting-too much talent there not to be putting more pucks in the net. I'm hoping they panic and call up Hart thinking he is the cure-all to their problems and they ruin him early in his career.

Kovalchuk is going to turn out to be a bad signing.


Philly and Giroux in particular overachieved last season- they were not a playoff team.

I disagree about Kovalchuk. Dude can still play, but he's a bad fit for that team.
He's not a guy who can push a team to non contender to the playoffs, but he's still an asset.


Giroux was healthy last year and put up MVP #'s-he was hurt the year before. Couturier moved his game to another level. Voracek is a solid 70-80 point player and I think Nolan Patrick could develop into an excellent second line Center. Four nice pieces and you can add Konecny who could be a 30 goal scorer someday to that group. They have some pieces on defense as well.
All that said, I hope they blunder as is their history.


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 Post subject: Re: Penguins Regular Season Thread 2018-19
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So, it's come to this.

A few years ago the Lightning very clearly knew it just wasn't going to happen. What did they do? They traded some roster players, retooled, and now here they are. They're primed and ready to go on another big run.

I look at the Penguins roster, and it's on a turd level that reminds me of 2014. Or even the 2006 team with washed up stars (sans Mario), a young Sid, and a bunch of trash.


Here are some things I'd do immediately and in the near future.

1. Play Daniel Sprong in the top 6.

What does the organization have to lose by doing this? About 7 of their last 8 games? See what you have in this guy. If you don't have anything, you'll probably know by then. He's the only obviously talented player on the roster. Let's see him. I'd fire Sullivan tomorrow if I could based on this bit of mental retardation. It's more likely than not that Sprong isn't anything special, but to play chodes like Wilson over him...


2. Trade Riley Sheahan; have Teddy Blueger take his place.

Addition by subtraction. A fifth round pick would be fine. I'd take less. What a blessing he wasn't signed long term. Holy shit. He's been terrible offensively and defensively.


3. Trade one of the defensemen. Even better, trade at least 3 of them.

Jack Johnson is a beta. I'm done with Maatta. Shoot Oleksiak into space.

I'd do so much more.


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