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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2018 8:19 am 
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No one here mentioned it that I saw... but did anyone else notice Sheehan bumped up to the 3rd line and Broussard on the 4th? I think it kind of makes a lot of sense. You can throw that 4th line out there vs the other team's best and you've got at least two really good defenders. Alos, Sheehan gets some more face off chances, and he's been the best in the series. Didn't result in any goals last night for lines 3/4 but I thought it was a bold move.

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No one here mentioned it that I saw... but did anyone else notice Sheehan bumped up to the 3rd line and Broussard on the 4th? I think it kind of makes a lot of sense. You can throw that 4th line out there vs the other team's best and you've got at least two really good defenders. Alos, Sheehan gets some more face off chances, and he's been the best in the series. Didn't result in any goals last night for lines 3/4 but I thought it was a bold move.



Sully did this in the last game as well.


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No one here mentioned it that I saw... but did anyone else notice Sheehan bumped up to the 3rd line and Broussard on the 4th? I think it kind of makes a lot of sense. You can throw that 4th line out there vs the other team's best and you've got at least two really good defenders. Alos, Sheehan gets some more face off chances, and he's been the best in the series. Didn't result in any goals last night for lines 3/4 but I thought it was a bold move.


Noticed that, and was a little surprised, though not overly so.

And what about Kessell? He's clearly not himself, though did get an assist. But still on the power play? Seems like there's a better alternative.


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No one here mentioned it that I saw... but did anyone else notice Sheehan bumped up to the 3rd line and Broussard on the 4th? I think it kind of makes a lot of sense. You can throw that 4th line out there vs the other team's best and you've got at least two really good defenders. Alos, Sheehan gets some more face off chances, and he's been the best in the series. Didn't result in any goals last night for lines 3/4 but I thought it was a bold move.



Sully did this in the last game as well.

People told me I was crazy at the time... but that 3rd line with Sheahan was buzzing at the time of the trade and I felt Broussard was the guy who should have started on that defensive minded line, especially considering he's great at it and he was playing that style in Ottawa.

Last night's lines were really a great adjustment, even if it didn't show that way on the scoresheet.

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Hadn't seen it mentioned here, but Shazier and JuJu were both in the house last night:

https://twitter.com/penguins/status/992210420994838528

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Hadn't seen it mentioned here, but Shazier and JuJu were both in the house last night:

https://twitter.com/penguins/status/992210420994838528

and Superstar

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bradshaw2ben wrote:
No one here mentioned it that I saw... but did anyone else notice Sheehan bumped up to the 3rd line and Broussard on the 4th? I think it kind of makes a lot of sense. You can throw that 4th line out there vs the other team's best and you've got at least two really good defenders. Alos, Sheehan gets some more face off chances, and he's been the best in the series. Didn't result in any goals last night for lines 3/4 but I thought it was a bold move.


Noticed that, and was a little surprised, though not overly so.

And what about Kessell? He's clearly not himself, though did get an assist. But still on the power play? Seems like there's a better alternative.


Brass and Kessel are hurt big time. Probably wise to just have them buried on the 4th line where they can do the least amount of damage

Rust-Sheahan - Kuhn line is pretty good, seems like they've got something going.

Back to Kessel- at this point he's worthless and I love the dude. But Carter Rowney is more effective right at this moment. The simple solution is to sit Kessel for at least a game and see if rest helps a little bit. When is the last time you say a guy of Kessel's pedigree completely fan on a shot which no one was around him? He did that on the PP last night and that was it for me. He's literally doing less than nothing.

This would be the ideal place for Sprong to come up: get some lively legs, get a guy who shoots and some energy. He replaces all of what Kessel brings


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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Caps Game 4 game comments
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If Kessel is hurt, why would they keep playing him?

Geno was hurt, and he sat and healed up

why wouldn't they sit Kessel for a few games?

are we sure he is hurt?


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Donnie Brasco wrote:
This would be the ideal place for Sprong to come up: get some lively legs, get a guy who shoots and some energy. He replaces all of what Kessel brings
Seems to me if he brings half a healthy Kessel, it would be more than what they are getting now. The only thing he brings right now is hockey smarts. Don't know anything about Sprong and what his experience is. . .

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https://twitter.com/C_AdamskiTrib/statu ... 3163027456


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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Caps Game 4 game comments
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Kessel be like “I ain’t got time to bleed.”

But for real, that wiff he had on the PP yesterday was terrible. I think it led to a 2 on 1 short handed break.

Maybe take Kessel of the first PP unit and put Brassard there?


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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Caps Game 4 game comments
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http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/James-Ta ... /243/92721

Interesting comments from a Caps blogger.

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The Capitals lost. No real surprise there. The Capitals are a team that regularly dresses Chandler Stephenson, Devonte Smith-Pelly, Jay Beagle and Alex Chiasson due to the staggering incompetence of their general manager.

The problem is that these guys shouldn't' be anywhere near anything other than a fourth line in the NHL (if that) and with Andre Burakovsky and Tom Wilson out of the lineup, their lack of depth at forward really hurts them.

Contrast that with the Penguins who have a "third" line that would do as most teams first lines.

Also, the Penguins are a great team, this has been a pretty good series and for it to be tied after four games should not surprise anyone. Now it's time for a best of three with two games in Washington.

This is where the Penguins season long bad luck really screws them, because if you spend any time looking at their stats at all, it becomes clear that they were the NHL's best team this year, but that their record was hurt by their low shooting and save percentages. The fact that they don't have home-ice advantage is a bit of a joke, on the part of luck.

For them to have even made the playoffs though - It's actually pretty impressive.

The Pens were 29th in save percentage and 24th in shooting percentage. That is the kind of bad luck that would force virtually any team to miss the playoffs.

The Penguins had the third lowest PDO in the NHL, and only one other team in the bottom ten (the Sharks) also made the Playoffs. Only 3 of the top 16 PDO teams missed the playoffs. (The Devils were the third low PDO team to make the playoffs, if you're wondering).

When this series started, I said that if the Caps wanted to win, they'd have to get extremely good goaltending from Holtby. So far, that seems to hold true. The Capitals are giving a great effort, all things considered.

But this isn't like last year when the Capitals were far and away the superior team. This year, it's reversed. The Capitals are up against the League's best, and they're holding their own, but if they want to advance, they're going to need a little luck and a lot of Holtby.

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Kessel is playing like a Monstar stole his talent...

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Jobus Rum wrote:
Kessel is playing like a Monstar stole his talent...

:lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Caps Game 4 game comments
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Hacksaw Jim Duggan wrote:
If this is another Caps meltdown, it began with the total reversal of the game 2 bullshit goal calls. While this didn't make amends for the league having a heavy hand in deciding game 2, it was nice to see that both goalie interference and whether the puck went in were put into question on the same goal. This time, they got the call right.

The meltdown continued when the Caps took a too many men penalty with a little over a minute left. That's a classic Capitals tactic of not giving your team a chance to win.

After that, Ovechkin got juked out of his jock by Sid, who passed it to Jake for EN goal. Ovechkin kicked the air in frustration. Sid beats Ovy...again.

As this was going on, Oshie got triggered at the situation and, attempting to keep the puck in the zone, launched himself into Letang and began fisticuffs.

On the way into the locker room, Backstrom, one of the quiet betas on the Capitals, was heard saying "Fuck this league!"

I'll put it this way. The Penguins outplayed the Capitals 5v5. The knob slobberers on NBC were too busy talking about the Caps gap control and physicality. Hey guys, they may have been great at both those things, but the problem is they were occurring in the Caps defensive zone. This isn't the best game the Capitals played. They didn't outplay the Penguins. That being said, this was a different type of Capitals game. It was out of their comfort zone in this series and in the history of these two teams. It was an opportunity for them to flip the script on their history. After this series, they could say "We're the Capitals, and we played full team defense and a 2-3 NZT to beat the Penguins. We didn't try to go blow for blow. We didn't try to win by dominating possession. We won by counterattacking and making the most of our chances. We were the underdogs. No one gave us a shot. We proved them wrong"

This was their "moment."
They may have just blown it.

Fantastic post - hope you are right


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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Caps Game 4 game comments
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Jobus Rum wrote:
Kessel is playing like a Monstar stole his talent...

To me he looks like he has eaten a bucket of hot dogs before every shift


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Suwanee88 wrote:
Jobus Rum wrote:
Kessel is playing like a Monstar stole his talent...

To me he looks like he has eaten a bucket of hot dogs before every shift


He’s injured...don’t think we need to go the personal insult route.

Although it is bothersome that he is obviously injured enough that it is affecting his play to the point where he’s a liability, and yet Sullivan still won’t sit him down.

Stanley Cups ought to be more important than Ironman streaks.

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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Caps Game 4 game comments
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Jeemie wrote:
Suwanee88 wrote:
Jobus Rum wrote:
Kessel is playing like a Monstar stole his talent...

To me he looks like he has eaten a bucket of hot dogs before every shift


He’s injured...don’t think we need to go the personal insult route.

Although it is bothersome that he is obviously injured enough that it is affecting his play to the point where he’s a liability, and yet Sullivan still won’t sit him down.

Stanley Cups ought to be more important than Ironman streaks.

yes..has sully or anyone mentioned kessell and his woeful play? that whiff on shot attempt was a cherry on his sub par play.. hes been so poor it seems it needs addressed by the team or kessel.. fuck..why not sit the man a few games ? someone must be better option.


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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Caps Game 4 game comments
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Jeemie wrote:
Suwanee88 wrote:
Jobus Rum wrote:
Kessel is playing like a Monstar stole his talent...

To me he looks like he has eaten a bucket of hot dogs before every shift


He’s injured...don’t think we need to go the personal insult route.

Although it is bothersome that he is obviously injured enough that it is affecting his play to the point where he’s a liability, and yet Sullivan still won’t sit him down.

Stanley Cups ought to be more important than Ironman streaks.


I'm sure it is, Jeems. I can't believe anything else. Either the injury itself isn't so bad, and Kessel is just playing shitty...but have to believe that Kessel, as he is, is better in Sully's mind than any other option. Mike Sullivan is NOT Mike Tomlin.

Let's see what the lineup is for tonight.


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Sully has commented on it...was in the Trib this morning.

“Phil’s not banged up any more than anyone else is this time of year”.

All hockey coach, this guy is.

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 Post subject: Re: Pens vs Caps Game 4 game comments
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Well....looks like Marchand couldn't make it another game without licking someone

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Re-watched the 3rd period, and it sort of reminded me of the 3rd period of Game #7 vs. Wings in '09 as it was a masterful defensive effort. At the time, on Thursday night, I was a nervous fuckin' wreck, but other than some sustained pressure mid-period, between the 11 minute & 8 minute marks, Caps really didn't threaten. Their last shot on goal was with 8 minutes remaining. We need more of that tonight.


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swissvale72 wrote:
Re-watched the 3rd period, and it sort of reminded me of the 3rd period of Game #7 vs. Wings in '09 as it was a masterful defensive effort. At the time, on Thursday night, I was a nervous fuckin' wreck, but other than some sustained pressure mid-period, between the 11 minute & 8 minute marks, Caps really didn't threaten. Their last shot on goal was with 8 minutes remaining. We need more of that tonight.

yes..i was freaking..seems like sully ditched the offense to play defense and help murray..caps got very few open or uncontested shots or breakaways.. I was uneasy motherfucker with only 1 goal lead...id love to see a pen scoring spurt and coast to win tonight and silence the cap fans.


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Pabst wrote:
Well....looks like Marchand couldn't make it another game without licking someone
Should that be a 2 min minor?

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swissvale72 wrote:
Re-watched the 3rd period, and it sort of reminded me of the 3rd period of Game #7 vs. Wings in '09 as it was a masterful defensive effort. At the time, on Thursday night, I was a nervous fuckin' wreck, but other than some sustained pressure mid-period, between the 11 minute & 8 minute marks, Caps really didn't threaten. Their last shot on goal was with 8 minutes remaining. We need more of that tonight.


That was a solid clampdown. And any game that keeps Ovie from even registering a shot is a helluva defensive effort.

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