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Author:  bam morris [ Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:24 pm ]
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Jeemie wrote:
Jobus Rum wrote:
The Pirates have traded for Rays SS Adeiny Hechavarria...could this be the end for Serpico?


It better be.

thing with Serpico that pisses me. he fields like shit besides hitting like Bambi.. and it blows my mind he seems to have a spot in lineup all the fucking time. misplaying in field and hitting like shit. its odd and crazy. can't tell me Bucs have no better option some place.

Author:  franco>madden [ Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:30 pm ]
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Gadzooks, this team :? . . . last night nothing; tonight, 10 runs and a complete game W for Taillon --

I think I'll be happier just enjoying the Pirate wins when they happen and quit looking at the "standings" and dreaming of the postseason, because the Cubastards have shifted into gear now and I don't think they're coming back down anytime soon. I don't see the Buccos getting over that 'Hurdle' of being world-beaters one night and pissing away games the next . . . but they sure do have some firepower, though.

Author:  Jeemie [ Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:54 am ]
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franco>madden wrote:
Gadzooks, this team :? . . . last night nothing; tonight, 10 runs and a complete game W for Taillon --

I think I'll be happier just enjoying the Pirate wins when they happen and quit looking at the "standings" and dreaming of the postseason, because the Cubastards have shifted into gear now and I don't think they're coming back down anytime soon. I don't see the Buccos getting over that 'Hurdle' of being world-beaters one night and pissing away games the next . . . but they sure do have some firepower, though.


It was always a pipe dream...too many teams to chase for the WC and the pitching is still the Achilles.

Still...3-3 through this slate of games with contenders...that won’t cut it, but at least it isn’t so horrible it’s doomed them already.

We’ll know for sure by August 31.

Author:  Jobus Rum [ Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:01 am ]
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franco>madden wrote:
Gadzooks, this team :? . . . last night nothing; tonight, 10 runs and a complete game W for Taillon --

I think I'll be happier just enjoying the Pirate wins when they happen and quit looking at the "standings" and dreaming of the postseason, because the Cubastards have shifted into gear now and I don't think they're coming back down anytime soon. I don't see the Buccos getting over that 'Hurdle' of being world-beaters one night and pissing away games the next . . . but they sure do have some firepower, though.

Too many teams to jump in both the division and “play in” game races. It could be done, but it’s a very long shot.

Author:  Jeemie [ Wed Aug 08, 2018 6:07 pm ]
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Crick is suddenly looking very hittable.

Author:  Jeemie [ Wed Aug 08, 2018 6:10 pm ]
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Polanco was completely brain-dead there.

Thank God he didn’t catch that foul ball...would have been 4-4 easily.

Author:  Jeemie [ Wed Aug 08, 2018 6:15 pm ]
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Frazier is going to play his way into the lineup regularly if he can keep fielding the way he has.

Holy SHIT!!!!!!!!!

Author:  bam morris [ Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:42 am ]
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bats back . feast or famine

Author:  Jeemie [ Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:20 pm ]
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I know we need to get Frazier ABs, but at the expense of Polanco?

Seriously, Hurdle?

Author:  Jeemie [ Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:35 pm ]
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Rest metrics killing us again.

Hurdle started Holmes to give the starting five an extra day of rest.

Holmes has got nothing.

Author:  Jeemie [ Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:23 pm ]
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Yep...no velocity, no control.

But just leave Holmes in there, Clint.

Author:  franco>madden [ Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:44 pm ]
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Author:  bam morris [ Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:02 am ]
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Jeemie wrote:
Rest metrics killing us again.

Hurdle started Holmes to give the starting five an extra day of rest.

Holmes has got nothing.

its so dumb. these guys off 2 days last weeks. winning is a must. they don't travel by train . or dig ditches all day. fuck. play to win asss hole. hurdle blows.

Author:  Jeemie [ Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:56 pm ]
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bam morris wrote:
Jeemie wrote:
Rest metrics killing us again.

Hurdle started Holmes to give the starting five an extra day of rest.

Holmes has got nothing.

its so dumb. these guys off 2 days last weeks. winning is a must. they don't travel by train . or dig ditches all day. fuck. play to win asss hole. hurdle blows.


We scored 10 runs and lost because Hurdle let both Holmes and Sadler pitch too long.

I just don’t get how his brain functions at all.

Author:  Bling Collector Ben [ Sat Aug 11, 2018 11:40 pm ]
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Jeemie wrote:
bam morris wrote:
Jeemie wrote:
Rest metrics killing us again.

Hurdle started Holmes to give the starting five an extra day of rest.

Holmes has got nothing.

its so dumb. these guys off 2 days last weeks. winning is a must. they don't travel by train . or dig ditches all day. fuck. play to win asss hole. hurdle blows.


We scored 10 runs and lost because Hurdle let both Holmes and Sadler pitch too long.

I just don’t get how his brain functions at all.


As for the game itself, I put the loss squarely on Hurdle. Sadler threw 20-something pitches in the 9th inning on Thursday night, I believe -- so, why put him back out there so soon -- it wasn't as if Sadler pitched all that well to finish the game Thursday night. As for Holmes, I was screaming at the TV for Hurdle to yank him after he walked in the 4th run. But, Skip gave him an extra batter and it cost the team 2 more runs. I'll excuse the first 4 runs but the last 2 by Holmes are inexcusable, as was using Sadler on short rest.

As for Hurdle's brain, it doesn't need to function. He has a formula === 6 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 9.
Of course, this is modified 711 from when we had better starters and Watson/Melancon to finish off games.

Hurdle is a player's manager, so he wants his starters to get 6 innings to have a chance for a win, plus that's about 100 pitches, and we all know you just have to yank a pitcher in these times around 100 pitches. Heaven forbid you should ask 115-120 sometime. Poor baby would blow out his arm before the Astros or Yankees could acquire anyone worth being on their rosters. When Billy Martin managed Oakland after leaving the Yankees he'd run his starters into the ground --- why save them for the Yanks and free agency?

Of course, when you have an established formula, you need only insert one of a few pitchers into innings 7 or 8 and have the closer appear in the 9th inning. Then, if all else fails, you're beyond criticism because everyone just knows that's the formula -- therefore, you can only blame the player for failing to execute and not the manager for failing -- man, do I ever miss Chuck Tanner.

Author:  jebrick [ Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:07 am ]
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On a side note...Watched Barry Bond's speech when they retired his number and commended to my wife about how his head has shrunk since his playing days. That is why he will never get into the HOF until doping is legal in MLB. It is was so obvious then as now. Which is too bad because he was such a great player without it.

Author:  Bling Collector Ben [ Sun Aug 12, 2018 11:57 pm ]
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jebrick wrote:
On a side note...Watched Barry Bond's speech when they retired his number and commended to my wife about how his head has shrunk since his playing days. That is why he will never get into the HOF until doping is legal in MLB. It is was so obvious then as now. Which is too bad because he was such a great player without it.


Agreed. You may have noticed Bond's interview with the Pirate broadcasters (Brown & Wehner). It lasted two 'half-innings' with Bonds discussing fond memories of teammates (those who schooled & motivated him in his early days) and of others who helped him to train. His attitude about hitting was quite interesting, saying his concept was to catch 100 mph. fastballs with his bat, much like a catcher would catch the ball with a glove. He claimed if the Pirates had offered him a 10-year deal after 1989 that he'd have signed it. Bonds actually had me liking him until I reasoned that this was part of his PR image rehab designed to get the last few votes needed to get into the HOF. You'll recall that Willie Mays was lobbying during the number retirement festivities for Bonds to get into the Hall. I do think Bonds was genuinely honored to have his # retired, but his interviews with the Pirate broadcasters, and next with the Giant broadcasters was for a reason.

After his Pirate interview ended, Bonds evidently left a baseball card for Wehner to sign. Wehner suggested he wasn't sure he wanted to sign it because evidently Wehner had asked Bond decades ago for a signature and was refused -- all this after Bonds ended last night's interview by shaking Wehner's hand and calling Wehner a friend. Brown gave the distinct impression that Bonds was his own worst enemy in the past by the way he dealt with other people more so than whatever "supplements" Bonds used to enhance his performance. I agree that Bonds would have been a HOF'er without supplements but took them for the same reason others may have -- to get an additional edge over his competition.

Author:  Jeemie [ Mon Aug 13, 2018 5:44 am ]
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From Twitter:

Quote:
Pirates assistant GM Kevan Graves, filling in for Neal Huntington on his weekly radio show, said biometric data showed them starters take longer to recover after throwing at Coors Field. Defended the decision to start Holmes Friday. #Pirates #DKPS


I’m resigned to the fact that sabremetrics rules baseball.

I’m not resigned to the fact that Hurdle was stupid and let Holmes keep pitching even when he clearly had nothing.

Author:  JackLambert58 [ Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:55 pm ]
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Attending a AAA game between the Norfolk Tides (Orioles) and Pawtucket Red Sox tonight, and look who comes to bat for the Tides. Mr. Pedro Alvarez. Yes, he went 0-3.

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Author:  Jeemie [ Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:57 pm ]
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Shane Baz the player to be named lter for Archer.

Yeah...that’s gonna smart. Baz is a guy you might give up in 2014 to get a really good pitcher now.

You don’t give up a prospect of that caliber when you’re chasing six teams.

Author:  bam morris [ Wed Aug 15, 2018 7:40 am ]
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JackLambert58 wrote:
Attending a AAA game between the Norfolk Tides (Orioles) and Pawtucket Red Sox tonight, and look who comes to bat for the Tides. Mr. Pedro Alvarez. Yes, he went 0-3.

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wow. dude looks like a teletubby. fat..

Author:  Obviously [ Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:43 pm ]
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Stick a fork in them. These fucking clowns are done.

Author:  Jobus Rum [ Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:52 pm ]
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Obviously wrote:
Stick a fork in them. These fucking clowns are done.

They’ve always been done.
How can you take this franchise seriously when everything they do is driven by $$$?
All that 11 game streak did, and it seems like months ago, was make them “respectable”. It in no way, shape, or form put them in contention.

Author:  bam morris [ Wed Aug 15, 2018 9:18 pm ]
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suckage back in charge! 500 ball in danger soon. archer=just a guy :cry:

Author:  Hacksaw Jim Duggan [ Thu Aug 16, 2018 5:13 am ]
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Watching the Pirates is like watching a formulaic TV series. You know the characteristics of the cast, you know the structure of each episode, and you know the resolution at the end. With this in mind, I've seen no need to actually sit down and watch a game for about five years now. I'd say I've maybe seen 50 total innings over that stretch, yet I have such an understanding of what is happening to this team on a year-to-year basis because I've seen it all before.

I went against all of this Tuesday night, probably watching six innings, which is easily the most I've seen since Cole lost Game 5 of that NLDS a few years ago. I gotta say, the product is awful. It's not the Pirates. It's baseball. When you have a pitch cast with a hitters box justifying the ineptitude of the umpires in calling balls and strikes, it puts the entire integrity of the sport into question. The game has the technology to make itself better and more accurate, yet it refuses to do so to appease tradition and umpire ego, I suppose. Josh Harrison had two questionable pitches, one of which was the easiest Ball call I've ever seen. The butterfly effect of actually getting that call right could have led to better conditions for a Pirates victory that night. I don't even know if I really care if the Pirates win or lose at this point, but jesus do I care if something is done right, especially if theres technology available. It wasn't just that call. The umpire was making a mockery of the strike zone all night. It was as if I was watching some bad wrestling storyline where the ref is a heel or something.

I think it was Bob Walk...may have been Steve Blass. I don't know. Wehner and those two fuckers practically sound the same. We'll say it was Walk. On the TV side, he was trying to justify why umpires routinely missing calls was good for the game because the batters would be upset that some strikes on the computer would be balls for an umpire. This is by far one of the most fucking retarded things I've ever heard, ignoring the fact that Harrison, a batter, got shit by the umpire that night. The fans just want it right. MLB should want every pitch thrown to be the correct call. No surprise coming from that abhorrent broadcast crew. They're used to getting on their knees for authority.

Just a miserable broadcast and a miserable game.

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