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 Post subject: Re: Steelers first round pick will be...
PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:38 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Steelers first round pick will be...
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Provided the injury he suffered in FCS Quarters proves to be no big deal, I think he'll test really well.


Wow, so Perch was right and that really was your alibi for the Haley beating...

If that's the case, then maybe he gets into the first. Andrews might go ahead because of the big school bias. Ian Thomas isn't even in the CBS top ten at the position, and I liked what I saw out of him in limited samples this season. I just think there's a lot of pretty good at TE this year, with a shortage of great. Decently deep, but not spectacular so far.

Goedert has the best hands and he's a basketball athlete with football build. I suspect he's going to be a better NFL player than FCS player.


Sounds like he ticks the boxes, and while our TE group is upgradable, I think first or second round would cause a brain aneurysm or two.


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 Post subject: Re: Steelers first round pick will be...
PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:44 pm 
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Ice wrote:
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Marcus Davenport


I'm intrigued.


I mean they don't really NEED another OLB and they have other holes to fill but he's intriguing for sure.

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 Post subject: Re: Steelers first round pick will be...
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First I will start with this.

Zero chance the Steelers take a TE in this draft...I don't mean the 1st round. I mean the entire draft.

Onto what defensive player the Steelers will waste a pick on in the 1st round(See what I did there)

I have a feeling the Steelers select....Vita Vea DL Washington in round one

Let me say one more time...The depth of this draft is really good....Not great. Some notable juniors choose to stay in school

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 Post subject: Re: Steelers first round pick will be...
PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:01 am 
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First I will start with this.

Zero chance the Steelers take a TE in this draft...I don't mean the 1st round. I mean the entire draft.

Onto what defensive player the Steelers will waste a pick on in the 1st round(See what I did there)

I have a feeling the Steelers select....Vita Vea DL Washington in round one

Let me say one more time...The depth of this draft is really good....Not great. Some notable juniors choose to stay in school


Vea checks the boxes for what they look for in a DE but I have a feeling Vea will be gone by 28. What about Tim Settle?

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I am a huge fan of Settle...He is a pup...Potential off the charts. His play reminds me of Cortez Kennedy

Where does he slot...If he falls into the 3rd round.

Redshirt Sophomores are hard to gauge

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I am a huge fan of Settle...He is a pup...Potential off the charts. His play reminds me of Cortez Kennedy

Where does he slot...If he falls into the 3rd round.

Redshirt Sophomores are hard to gauge


Rang has him as a solid 2nd rounder but how many teams are looking for a run stuffer.

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 Post subject: Re: Steelers first round pick will be...
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FC wrote:
First I will start with this.

Zero chance the Steelers take a TE in this draft...I don't mean the 1st round. I mean the entire draft.

Onto what defensive player the Steelers will waste a pick on in the 1st round(See what I did there)

I have a feeling the Steelers select....Vita Vea DL Washington in round one

Let me say one more time...The depth of this draft is really good....Not great. Some notable juniors choose to stay in school

I missed it - why will their defensive first round pick be a waste?


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Ryan Shazier
Bud Dupree
Jarvis Jones
Artie Burns
I hate to do it TJ Watt

IMO I am willing to call all of them busts

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 Post subject: Re: Steelers first round pick will be...
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I like Rashaan Evans as well but im thinking about getting all aboard the Leighton Vander Esche train especially if shaziers career is over which it likely is.


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FC wrote:
Ryan Shazier
Bud Dupree
Jarvis Jones
Artie Burns
I hate to do it TJ Watt

IMO I am willing to call all of them busts

I got it - yes I agree with you FC. As a group = bust. I will hold hope for Watt.

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I like Rashaan Evans as well but im thinking about getting all aboard the Leighton Vander Esche train especially if shaziers career is over which it likely is.

I want to see how he runs, because I don't think he has the speed to fit what we need. Maybe he's faster than he looks. Great tackler, though.

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I like Rashaan Evans as well but im thinking about getting all aboard the Leighton Vander Esche train especially if shaziers career is over which it likely is.

I want to see how he runs, because I don't think he has the speed to fit what we need. Maybe he's faster than he looks. Great tackler, though.




Most of the stuff im reading is that LVE is expected to be one of those guys that blows the combine up in which case he wont fall to us, but ya very interested to see his combine as well.


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I’m wondering if moving TJ Watt to ILB might not be the best thing moving forward.


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 Post subject: Re: Steelers first round pick will be...
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FC wrote:
Ryan Shazier
Bud Dupree
Jarvis Jones
Artie Burns
I hate to do it TJ Watt

IMO I am willing to call all of them busts
Too soon for Watt. Burns still has some learnin' to do. Bud Is a mystery. I've seen him double teamed, and I've seen him give up on plays. He's a question mark for me. And aside from questionable tackling techniques, Shazier was probably an all pro. IMHO.

And draft "picking" is cyclical. Sometimes you hit it big, sometimes you don't. Mounds marketing dept would approve.

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 Post subject: Re: Steelers first round pick will be...
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I don't think it's okay to call Shazier a bust. He had a career ending injury, but was a Pro Bowler.


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 Post subject: Re: Steelers first round pick will be...
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I don't think it's okay to call Shazier a bust. He had a career ending injury, but was a Pro Bowler.


Agree, Shazier's name should be nowhere near this group. Watt did some things very well for his rookie year. Too early to call him anything other than a rookie.

Alvin Dupree stinks. No way in hell he should get a contract #2. Jervis was the biggest bust in recent memory and Burns is trending toward nothing special as well.

Definitely not a great track record for round 1.


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 Post subject: Re: Steelers first round pick will be...
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Jervis was Huey Richardson-level bad. Golson was a pretty rough, too, though that was injury, and finding Hilton kinda made up for it.

I hope Burns and Davis can turn it around, but some of the quotes from Burns have been odd and concerning.

Hell, the jury is back into the room on Tuitt, in my opinion.

I can safely say I'm finally done with Dupree, as well, though as some have pointed out, he wasn't terrible in coverage this year when asked to play that role.

One of the things I wonder about is whether or not the player-picking or the coaching (positionally, at the very least) is at fault, which gets compounded on the scale of depressing when you look at the fact that LB and secondary are probably going to be high on the priority list again this April. Do we pump more high picks at the same coaches and expect better results?


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Jervis was Huey Richardson-level bad. Golson was a pretty rough, too, though that was injury, and finding Hilton kinda made up for it.

I hope Burns and Davis can turn it around, but some of the quotes from Burns have been odd and concerning.

Hell, the jury is back into the room on Tuitt, in my opinion.

I can safely say I'm finally done with Dupree, as well, though as some have pointed out, he wasn't terrible in coverage this year when asked to play that role.

One of the things I wonder about is whether or not the player-picking or the coaching (positionally, at the very least) is at fault, which gets compounded on the scale of depressing when you look at the fact that LB and secondary are probably going to be high on the priority list again this April. Do we pump more high picks at the same coaches and expect better results?




We shouldnt, but we will. My prediction on 1st rnd pick is someone with talent, that our coaching staff will turn into a turd.


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I'm starting to think we should just start picking Alabama players. They're mostly maxed-out, coached up what you see is what you get players. Less chance for Lake and Porter to ruin them.


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I'm starting to think we should just start picking Alabama players. They're mostly maxed-out, coached up what you see is what you get players. Less chance for Lake and Porter to ruin them.




and Tomlin..his fingerprints are on this defense more than anyone elses


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True. I guess I'm partial to blaming position coaches for the lack of player development, and the coordinator and head coach for the more global failures.


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I'm warming up to the LB from South Carolina State, Darius Leonard. Could be there on the 2nd day. Hopefully, end of the 2nd RND? I'm sure how he tests will determine where. MEAC defensive player of the year second year in a row. Thoughts?


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I'm warming up to the LB from South Carolina State, Darius Leonard. Could be there on the 2nd day. Hopefully, end of the 2nd RND? I'm sure how he tests will determine where. MEAC defensive player of the year second year in a row. Thoughts?


Be interesting to see how he tests out. I could see anywhere from mid-2nd to 4th at this point. Nice highlight reel, low LOC, starting to acquire some buzz already.

Speaking of which, Tremaine Edmunds seems to be already well out of range at 1.28.


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 Post subject: Re: Steelers first round pick will be...
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What the mockers say and what happens on draft day is generally very different. For most of these drafts they do not look at historical data on what positions get picked the most. From 10 to 24 I will bet that 80% of those picks will be passrushers(EDGE and DT) and CBs. QB, OT and perhaps a WR will be scattered in there to fill out the other 20%( I would never take a WR in the 1st round but their mileage may vary).

I still like Esch on his football smarts. I would be quite happy with that pick. I am sure NE is looking at him.

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