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 Post subject: Re: 2018 Official Draft Visits
PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 12:56 pm 
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Draft visitor: LB Dorian O'Daniel from Clemson

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 Post subject: Re: 2018 Official Draft Visits
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Interesting tidbit on O'Daniel

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A fifth-year senior, O'Daniel arrived at the Greenville, S.C., school via Gaithersburg, Md. But don't let the area code confuse you. He is Canonsburg-born and Pittsburgh proud.

He is a 412/724 guy, just like his dad, Roger Scott, a running back at Woodland Hills High and Slippery Rock 20 years ago, and paternal grandfather Roger McKinnon, who played at Braddock High in the '60s.

O’Daniel’s family moved from Canonsburg to Maryland to be with his maternal grandfather when he was in the seventh grade.

Fittingly, the burgeoning star’s first college offer came from hometown Pitt when he was just a freshman at Our Lady of Good Counsel High, which sent seven of his former teammates to the NFL. Former Panthers coach Todd Graham, he of one-and-done fame, liked what he saw in the athletic running back-linebacker.

"It was a special moment, because Pitt knew I was from the area and they recognized me early," O'Daniel said. "The recruiting process got pretty crazy afterwards."

Though Pitt wasn't it for O'Daniel, whom Rivals.com ranked as the 40th overall prospect his senior year, he still remains true to his roots.

"I'm faithfully repping the Steelers, no doubt about it," said O'Daniel, who planned to commit to Michigan, but had his offer pulled days before a scheduled visit his junior year. "I have memorabilia all over the house. Needless to say, that loss to the Patriots hurt me. Their fans came out of the woodwork to give me a hard time."


http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/college/2017/12/29/o-daniel-a-canonsburg-product-will-face-alabama-in-college-football-playoff-dorian-roger-scott-woodland-hills-slippery-rock-dabo-swinney-nick-saban/stories/201712290001

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 Post subject: Re: 2018 Official Draft Visits
PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 12:27 pm 
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Steelers draft visitors for Monday: RB Reggie Bonnafon of Louisville, FB John David Moore of LSU and Richie James of Middle Tennessee State.

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I like the second two guys a lot. James is one of my three favorite late round WRs

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 Post subject: Re: 2018 Official Draft Visits
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LVE visited on Saturday as per Fittipaldo


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GreekSteel wrote:
LVE visited on Saturday as per Fittipaldo

Missed that one. Thanks!

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 Post subject: Re: 2018 Official Draft Visits
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So...here's a strange one:

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Another name to watch: Aussie Rugby player Jordan Mailata (6-8, 346) who's attempting conversion to football. Has visits lined up every day this week:

MON Washington
TUE Pittsburgh
WED Philadelphia
THU Cleveland
FRI LA Chargers

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Mailata measured just shy of 6-foot-8 and weighed 346 pounds. His arms measured a massive 35.5 inches. He was timed at 5.12 seconds in the 40-yard dash, which would have been good for seventh among tackle participants at the NFL Combine in February. He also excelled in the short shuttle with a time (4.67 seconds) that would have been among the top 10 at his position. Mailata put up 22 reps on the bench press.


I would rather see his BJ and VJ numbers

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 Post subject: Re: 2018 Official Draft Visits
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Pabst wrote:
So...here's a strange one:

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Another name to watch: Aussie Rugby player Jordan Mailata (6-8, 346) who's attempting conversion to football. Has visits lined up every day this week:

MON Washington
TUE Pittsburgh
WED Philadelphia
THU Cleveland
FRI LA Chargers

Not a strange one at all... prototypical Mick Munchak elite size/length/athlete for OL conversion. Villanueva, Matt Feiler, Mihalik. I knew they were interested, because they helped run his "pro day workout".

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 Post subject: Re: 2018 Official Draft Visits
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Mailata measured just shy of 6-foot-8 and weighed 346 pounds. His arms measured a massive 35.5 inches. He was timed at 5.12 seconds in the 40-yard dash, which would have been good for seventh among tackle participants at the NFL Combine in February. He also excelled in the short shuttle with a time (4.67 seconds) that would have been among the top 10 at his position. Mailata put up 22 reps on the bench press.


I would rather see his BJ and VJ numbers

also very young... I think 19. compare his size/length/speed numbers to similarly aged Tyron Smith

6050 307 36.375 arms 31 reps 4.93 29 VJ 9'01" BJ 4.68 SS 7.47 3 cone
6080 346 35.5 arms 22 reps 5.12 4.67 SS

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 Post subject: Re: 2018 Official Draft Visits
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Now official:

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Draft visitor for 4/10: OL Jordan Mailata from Australia

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 Post subject: Re: 2018 Official Draft Visits
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I know this wasn't your point, but this provides a perfect illustration of how different tackling is in rugby vs. football

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 Post subject: Re: 2018 Official Draft Visits
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Saw this last week on yahoo. I think he'd fit well as DLine. OLine would be a lot more technical. DLine, still a huge learning curve. American football is far different than Rugby. Maybe, 7th RND'er? JMO


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Saw this last week on yahoo. I think he'd fit well as DLine. OLine would be a lot more technical. DLine, still a huge learning curve. American football is far different than Rugby. Maybe, 7th RND'er? JMO


Setting up for a UDFA. Can't believe anyone would spend a draft pick on him.

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 Post subject: Re: 2018 Official Draft Visits
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Don't understand the talk of him playing OT? That's a far greater learning curve IMHO. OT is really technical and is difficult to transition just from college to Pro's. For someone who has never played American football before OLine is a huge stretch. Guys that played in high school and college have hard time transitioning. DLine is more go get him, more cut and dry IMHO. Munchak helped Villanueva true, but Villy already was playing in a system while in college. It is certainly easier for a TE to transition than a Rugby player who has never played American football. Be interesting to see where this player goes and how his transition to American football unfolds.


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 Post subject: Re: 2018 Official Draft Visits
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I'm sure the interest is because there are just so few guys with that kind of size and movement skills. Planet theory.

If you want the least amount of learning curve, make him a RB or FB. It sounds ridiculous, but look at him planting guys in the open field. He knows how to run, but the footwork and hand technique alone is pretty hard to learn. I'm pretty sure Mihalik or one of those recent Munchak projects had never played OL before he started teaching them, looked awful at first, became a serviceable player in a year or two.

I look at it this way: there are high school kids who know nothing about the position or technique, get a year or two of very limited training, come to college with some skills. With his size and mobility, even slightly below average technique might still be pretty effective. Think about him as that 3rd big TE in a year or two. Worth a shot as a PFA or even a late round pick, if you really like what you saw of his progress in learning the position to this point.

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 Post subject: Re: 2018 Official Draft Visits
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Wow, I was just remembering Carlton Haselrig back in the day. Wrestler, never played football in college, but the Steelers drafted him in the 12th round in '89 if I remember that right.

I remember some thought, hey, make him play defense, maybe he can be a NT, but Noll was adamant about him playing guard. Haselrig made the Pro Bowl as a guard.

All I know is that we have probably the best offensive line coach in the NFL in Munchak and I think he could do wonders with this Rugby kid. Also, this is sort of in the Steelers DNA in terms of developing offensive linemen from unlikely sources. Whether it is turning a TE into a Pro Bowl RT like Larry Brown, or a wrestler into Pro Bowl Guard like Carlton Haselrig or a former WR turned into a Pro Bowl LT in Big Al (Many forget that Villy was recruited as a TE, then played DE, then Offensive tackle, and then ended his Army career in college as a WR!).

So, what I am trying to say, is that the Steelers have this down to a science. Bring him in as an UDFA, or take him in round 7.

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 Post subject: Re: 2018 Official Draft Visits
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Just my opinion...With the Steelers running his pro day and bringing him in for a visit I think they are trying to build a relationship so they can sign him as a UDFA.

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 Post subject: Re: 2018 Official Draft Visits
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Draft visitors 4/11: WR Russell Gage Jr., from LSU

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Goedert’s schedule has included the New Orleans Saints, Los Angeles Chargers, Seattle Seahawks, Baltimore Ravens, Miami Dolphins, Buffalo Bills, Carolina Panthers, Detroit Lions, Houston Texans, New England Patriots, Philadelphia Eagles, Jacksonville Jaguars, Pittsburgh Steelers, Oakland Raiders, New York Giants and New York Jets, or basically half the league. http://draftanalyst.com/tight-end-boards-it’s-anyone’s-guess
Can put this in the 'unconfirmed' visits for now I guess.


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Draft visitor for 4/13: WR Christian Kirk from Texas A&M

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Goedert’s schedule has included the New Orleans Saints, Los Angeles Chargers, Seattle Seahawks, Baltimore Ravens, Miami Dolphins, Buffalo Bills, Carolina Panthers, Detroit Lions, Houston Texans, New England Patriots, Philadelphia Eagles, Jacksonville Jaguars, Pittsburgh Steelers, Oakland Raiders, New York Giants and New York Jets, or basically half the league. http://draftanalyst.com/tight-end-boards-it’s-anyone’s-guess
Can put this in the 'unconfirmed' visits for now I guess.

I'm not sure if that means he had a visit, or he's just met with the Steelers. I know they sent a rep to his pro day

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Draft visitor for 4/13: WR Christian Kirk from Texas A&M


That'd be a 1.28 play. I wonder if it isn't a little too much like having two Jujus.


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Draft visitor for 4/13: WR Christian Kirk from Texas A&M


That'd be a 1.28 play. I wonder if it isn't a little too much like having two Jujus.

You think this guy is a first rounder?

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