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Author:  bradshaw2ben [ Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:55 am ]
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I think Penny might be the best runner in the class but I don’t think he’s a fit for a team with a top 5 QB and sophisticated passing game. Penny is a volume run/screen guy you pair with a QB you want to protect from overexposure. He should get drafted by Miami or TB and be very successful. He’s just not strong enough in the pass game to be a bell cow in PIT. I would seriously rather have Ballage or Warren or even Jaylen Samuels— not because they are better players but because they’d be better complements to what makes the Steelers offense and Ben more successful. I want no part of a volume run game with Ben and AB on my roster.

Author:  Steelafan77 [ Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:38 pm ]
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Let’s step into Kevin Colbert’s shoes and evaluate who might be on the board for the Steelers with their first three picks, especially given their current slate of needs.

Round 1, Pick 28

I’ll be pretty surprised if draft night rolls around and the Steelers don’t take a safety or a linebacker with this pick. I’ve narrowed their options down to four players that I believe are at the top of their current board, all of which carry some level of excitement.

Alabama linebacker Rashaan Evans is my top linebacker with a chance to be available at 28, and the Steelers had a full entourage at his pro day, typically a big indicator that the team has strong interest. Evans is explosive, physical and versatile, bringing pass rush experience off the edge and much-improved mental processing as a linebacker. He’s a little untested in coverage, but the athletic traits and ascending overall level of play are promising.

He’ll have to fend off Boise State linebacker Leighton Vander Esch for the Steelers’ affections, however, as the one-year starter is bigger, longer and perhaps a better athlete than even the highly mobile Evans. What Vander Esch doesn’t have is a really refined game from the neck up just yet, but considering his relative inexperience and tenacious work ethic, there is a lot of reason for optimism that his game will become more complete in time.

If the Steelers opt to go safety, Justin Reid from Stanford will likely be the top player on their board. If you examine the Steelers' recent draft tendencies under Colbert, especially in the first round, the team tends to target elite athletes with size, Power 5 pedigree, production, smarts and a clean slate off the field — all things that Reid brings to the table. He played mostly in the slot at Stanford, so single-high is a little projection, but I ultimately think he can be even better in that role at the next level.

Pittsburgh also showed a lot of interest in Wake Forest safety Jessie Bates at his pro day, taking him out to dinner and sending a large entourage to attend his workout. Bates is also a versatile safety who is aggressive against the run and makes a lot of instinctive plays in deep coverage. If Reid is off the board before Pittsburgh makes a selection, I wouldn’t be surprised to see them pull the trigger on Bates.

Round 2, Pick 60

The Steelers will begin keeping best player available in mind more and more as the draft progresses, but I still think safety or linebacker will be the priority here, depending on which position they addressed in the first round obviously.

Two linebackers I think they’ll consider in the second round (if they didn’t draft one in the first) are Fred Warner from BYU and Malik Jefferson from Texas. I actually have Warner ranked higher than Vander Esch and think he’s an elite cover linebacker who fits the Steelers from a size/athleticism/production standpoint. He’s also a mentally sharp, high character prospect, but will come with some projection given that BYU often used him as a big slot/overhang defender.

Jefferson is a player that scares me a good bit, as his effort and strong play seemed to come and go too often at Texas, but he also fits the size/athleticism/production tendency for Pittsburgh, as well as hailing from an established Power 5 school. He misses a ton of tackles, though, and is very inconsistent as a mental processor on the second level.

Another Texas product, safety DeShon Elliott, could be on the board for Pittsburgh in this range or in the third round, and there is also a chance Bates could still be available at 60. Don’t rule out a surprise like Penn State tight end Mike Gesicki, South Carolina tight end Hayden Hurst or even a wide receiver like Notre Dame’s E.Q. St. Brown in the second round.

Round 3, Pick 92

Things get wide open here for the Steelers, especially if they’ve already addressed the two big problem areas on their roster. An edge pass rusher could make some sense, but there won’t be many available in the third round that fit the Steelers' athletic profile if the board falls as expected. I don’t think they’ll focus on need as much as best player available in round three, so here are a few names that should intrigue the Steelers, depending on who they’ve already drafted.

South Carolina State linebacker Darius Leonard is a player the Steelers should know well given that they drafted his former teammate in Hargrave two years ago. Leonard is a big, rangy linebacker who needs some development, but he has flashed potential and coverage ability that would be welcomed in Ryan Shazier’s old role.

At tight end, Hurst’s balanced skill set will be attractive to Pittsburgh if he’s still on the board, and Indiana tight end Ian Thomas has been rumored to be a prospect that many teams believe has untapped athletic upside at the position.

Like it or not, Arizona State running back Kalen Ballage will undoubtedly be a player on the Steelers’ radar in the middle rounds despite his inconsistencies as a ball carrier. He's a big back with a versatile skill set and the ability to be a weapon in the passing game that could help ease the eventual loss of Bell down the road.

Of course, the draft can unfold in a myriad of different ways once things get rolling on April 26, and it’ll be Colbert’s task to adjust his process and snag a few players that can help the Steelers win right away. His defensive track record in the draft has brought back some mixed results, and if he can’t nail a couple picks in the first three rounds, the Steelers' window will start sliding shut quite rapidly due to their current weaknesses. ... k/ait2qu4/

Author:  bradshaw2ben [ Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:46 pm ]
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[Two linebackers I think they’ll consider in the second round (if they didn’t draft one in the first) are Fred Warner from BYU and Malik Jefferson from Texas.

Now, there’s a good reason to pick a LB in round 1!

Author:  steelmann58 [ Sat Mar 24, 2018 11:24 pm ]
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I really like Warner in round two good vs coverage and good tackler

Author:  bradshaw2ben [ Sun Mar 25, 2018 12:16 am ]
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steelmann58 wrote:
I really like Warner in round two good vs coverage and good tackler

Really? I don't think he's very good vs the run, and he's stiff in coverage to me. I know some here really like him but I would, for instance, take Skai Moore over Warner in a heartbeat. I think Warner's a 5th or 6th round guy.

Author:  Big Steel [ Tue Mar 27, 2018 3:13 pm ]
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Rd 1- I have four targets right now Evans, Vander Esch, Reid, and Harrison. I'd be happy with any of them at this point.
That said I'd go with S JUSTIN REID. He might be one of the most underrated guys as a Day 1 target. Great ball skills, can hit and his ceiling is seriously high. Addition of Burnett alongside of Davis will give Reid time to develop while helping early on.

Rd 2 - Could go alot of ways here depending on who slides ala JuJu last year, unplanned but perfect pick.
For now I'd go with ILB DARIUS LEONARD. The guy plays sideline to sideline, is smart and athletic. Feel like he'd make quick impact, can stay on field for 3 downs with solid coverage ability. He won't last past end of 2nd, top of 3rd rounds. At this point his stock is rising and question is how high will he go. I love him in Rd 2.

Rd 3 - Edge JOSH SWEAT. I think questions on his knee will hold him into 3rd round but I really like this guy and think he's good to go from what I've read. Just a matter of will he be there in 3rd. Perfect guy to throw in mix on the Edge to push the competition.

Rd 5a - WR CEDRICK WILSON. Do it all receiver, solid size, great route runner, solid character who can help as returner and was High School QB. Perfect guy to push at #4 and can move up with development in case Bryant is gone after this year. May go a little earlier that this if team falls in love with him after combine.

Rd 5b - T JOSEPH NOTEBOOM. Perfect guy who with right coaching and strength work could turn into solid starter for years but for now the depth guy to compete to replace Hubbard.

Rd 7a - CB CHRISTIAN CAMPBELL Good size with good enough speed to throw into mix in the secondary.

Rd 7b - NT JOSHUA FRAZIER. Just my feeling they are going to target, space eater in the middle who pushes McCullers off roster. Frazier is likely 7 Rd or Priority UDFA, but I think someone drafts him late. Worth it in 7th.

Author:  SteelDrama [ Thu Mar 29, 2018 2:13 pm ]
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Josh Norris Mock ... s-steelers

Author:  bradshaw2ben [ Thu Mar 29, 2018 3:06 pm ]
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I'll be shocked if they take Justin Reid at 1.28. 2nd round, maybe, but I think they have Bates ahead of Reid on their board.

Author:  Steelafan77 [ Fri Mar 30, 2018 8:28 am ]
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My own 'random' mock....
Leighton Vander Esch ILB 6'4 240 Boise State
Equanimeous St. Brown WR 6'4 205 Notre Dame
Dorance Armstrong OLB 6'3 257 Kansas
Shaquem Griffin S/ILB 6'2 229 Central Florida
Jaylen Samuels RB/TE 5'11 223 N.C. State
Matt Elam DT 6'5 360 Kentucky
Bentley Spain OT 6'5 310 North Carolina

Author:  Steelafan77 [ Sat Mar 31, 2018 10:58 am ]
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Like most draft experts, I wasted little time rehashing the Steelers 45-42 season-ending loss to the Jaguars in the divisional round of the playoffs at Heinz Field on January 14.

There's no time for that when your head is filled with thoughts of how to make a team better (at least on paper).

This desire to make Pittsburgh a more superior on-field product—one capable of competing each week—is what drives me every offseason—and this offseason was/is no exception.

However, the on-field product can't be improved until the work, the research, the analysis is done off the field, by people like me, the experts—the gurus, if you will.

What am I talking about? I'm talking about dissecting and analyzing those ever-promising draft prospects.

With the 2018 NFL Draft less than a month away, how will the Steelers get better? What areas of need/concern will they look to shore up first?

Unlike other draft experts, I don't just dive in right out of the gate with a mock draft—followed by another and then another and then another.

No, what I do is spend countless hours watching tape, studying film and crunching numbers.

I examine pad level. I view technique with an ultra-critical eye.

And with that in-mind, I would like to unveil my...

Official 2018 Steelers Mock Draft.

Round 1: (32nd, overall): Billy Price, center/guard, Ohio State

I realize the Steelers are supposed to have the 28th pick in the first round, but I have them moving down four spots for reasons I will get to later.

Let's talk about the pick. Why a center? It's simple: While Maurkice Pouncey may be a decorated center with a string of Pro Bowl appearances on his resume, fact is, he's not getting any younger. Pouncey will be 29 by the time he plays his next meaningful game, and with only two years left on a five-year contract he signed in 2014, it's time the Steelers groom his eventual replacement.

And with a player like Billy Price, one that, according to Walterfootball, is "an above-average athlete," who better to groom at a position that, as BTSC's own Shannon White has said, is one steeped in excellence?

It is true that Price tore a pectoral muscle at the Combine, but he'll certainly have plenty of time to heal as well as learn behind one of the greatest centers in team history.

Pittsburgh's rich tradition at center will continue on through Billy Price.

Round 2: (33rd, overall): Ike Boettger, offensive tackle, Iowa

I realize this is the Browns pick, but in my official 2018 Steelers Mock Draft, I have Cleveland moving up from the first pick of the second round to the 28th pick of the first round. The Browns have been stockpiling draft choices recently, and they will offer some valuable compensation to Pittsburgh in-order to gain yet another first round pick (more on that later).

Anyway, with Chris Hubbard signing a lucrative free agent deal with, ironically enough, the Browns, Pittsburgh is going to need a new utility tackle, one capable of playing both positions at the professional level. And at 6'5" and 307 pounds, Boettger has the kind of size scouts rarely find—but always covet—at the position.

Round 5 (148th, overall): Linnell Bonner, wide receiver, Houston

You're probably wondering why the Steelers, who didn't have a pick in the fourth round, also lost their original second round pick (60th, overall), along with their third round pick (91st, overall). To get something, you have to be willing to give something. And with Pittsburgh seeking a trading partner back into the first round after sending the 28th pick to the Browns in exchange for an extra draft choice (more on that later), the organization was going to have to pay a little more.

Thankfully, in my official—and final—2018 Steelers mock draft, the defending champion Eagles were a more than willing dance partner. And why wouldn't they be? After all, second and third round picks don't grow on trees, neither do promising second-year receivers such as JuJu Smith-Schuster, who I have Pittsburgh also sending to Philadelphia in exchange for its first round pick.

I realize Smith-Schuster, with 58 receptions for 917 yards and seven touchdowns in his first season, may have only skimmed the surface of what he's capable of, but you know who is capable of even more? Martavis Bryant, a Randy Moss-like mega-athlete that's just dripping with talent, talent that's been evident since his rookie year of 2014.

With only one year left on his rookie contract, 2018 will probably be the season Bryant truly breaks out, and Smith-Schuster, like Bryant, a number two receiver, would just make for a crowded position.

So why Bonner, if I'm so worried about the numbers at the receiver position? Because, at 6'0, 200 lbs, Bonner has the ideal size to play the slot role. With Eli Rogers likely not coming back next year, Bonner, a top-40 receiving prospect, would have a chance to start as a rookie.

Round 5 (165th, overall): Davon Grayson, wide receiver, ECU

Why another wide receiver, if I have Pittsburgh trading away its 2017 Rookie of the Year? The Steelers will need insurance in-case Bryant faces another suspension, and at 6'2, 187 pounds, Grayson has a similar body frame to the fifth-year man out of Clemson.

Round 6 (205, overall): Nick Wilson, running back, Arizona

You might be wondering why I have the Steelers settling for the Browns second of two sixth round picks as the compensation I've been teasing. I understand your concern, but with star running back Le'Veon Bell seeking a contract that averages $17 million a season, it just doesn't seem realistic that Pittsburgh will be able to pay that kind of money, plus afford the top sixth round pick.

Round 6 (206, overall): Richard Lagow, quarterback, Indiana

Knowing that Philadelphia has both Carson Wentz and Super Bowl LII-winning quarterback Nick Foles in the fold, it isn't hard to fathom the Steelers being able to make yet another trade with the Eagles, this time as a means to move back into the sixth round in-order to find their heir apparent franchise passer. How do I see this happening? Simple: Pittsburgh has two seventh round picks I'm guessing Philadelphia would find enticing.

Hefty price? Not if Lagow, who at 6'5", 240 pounds, is ultimately groomed into the next Big Ben Roethlisberger.

There you have it, now that I've put in the work and have told you my thoughts, I'm eager to read yours below. ... e-receiver

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