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 Post subject: Re: Latest Drama Angle - Bell @ next year
PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:29 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Latest Drama Angle - Bell @ next year
PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:45 pm 
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Scunge wrote:
Last offseason I posted a topic where I broke down DeAngelo Williams production as a starter in this offense and compared it to what Bell had did as a starter. The results of all of my research? The offense was more productive with Williams surprisingly. They scored more points. So, why was that exactly?

Well, I love me a multidimensional RB who can run, block and catch. Somebody you don't have to take out for a specialist or a platoon of RBs. Love watching Bell play, love watching him catch the ball, but EVERYTHING IN MODERATION!!!

I am fine with a RB catching 60 balls a year, but when you are catching 85 in a year, when you are being targeted so much, that you have more targets than ALL of the TEs combined, when you are targeted more than somebody like Smith-Schuster, well, that starts to become a problem.

If I am a defense I want the Steelers to spend precious targets throwing to Bell, why not give up short underneath passes at 7.7 yards a clip this past season? And Bell only had 2 TD receiving for the year.

The more time this offense squanders opportunities forcing it to Bell, means JuJu gets less chances, means Vance McDonald gets less chances, means Bryant gets less chances.

When I saw the offense with Williams as the RB, Ben/Haley were more willing to involve everybody on offense, to take advantage of all of the weapons. With Bell, it is like they get enamored with his talent and then develop this myopic tunnel vision that actually limits the offense.

Also, this past year showed that it is easier than ever to find a RB who can run and catch. You can find a RB with Bell's versatility in rounds 2 and 3 each and every year. He is that replaceable.

The Saints Kamara as a rookie, rushed for over 700 yards, a 6.1 yard average, 8 TDs and oh, had 81 catches for 826 yards and 5 TDs, that is 10.1 yards a catch. He was a 3rd round pick.

Everybody knows about Kareem Hunt for KC, he was a 3rd rounder too.

Minnesota's Dalvin Cook was a 2nd rounder and before he got hurt he looked to have great potential to be part of this renaissance of great runner/catcher that are in the NFL now. Bell is not unique, there was a dry spell, everything follows a cycle, now that type of RB is back and plentiful.

It would be stupid to pay Bell what he wants when, yeah, that type of RB really does grow on trees apparently, and teams are plucking from that tree every year now.


I don't know. It is an interesting point. It does seem to me that as the offense shifted more from Bell rushing to Bell receiving this year that the success of the offense has increased. We will see what happens.


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 Post subject: Re: Latest Drama Angle - Bell @ next year
PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:22 am 
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Also, if Bell is tagged this year (for the 2nd time) it's 20% more, for a total of @ $14.5M

Non-QB's cannot be tagged for a 3rd year. He's guaranteed to be a UFA after next year if he doesn't sign an extension.

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 Post subject: Re: Latest Drama Angle - Bell @ next year
PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:26 am 
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Hilarious overreaction in this thread.

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 Post subject: Re: Latest Drama Angle - Bell @ next year
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 Post subject: Re: Latest Drama Angle - Bell @ next year
PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:59 am 
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It's just Leveon being Leveon. Dude's kind of a knucklehead, but I love the guy....love that he's on our team.


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 Post subject: Re: Latest Drama Angle - Bell @ next year
PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:39 am 
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Scunge wrote:
Last offseason I posted a topic where I broke down DeAngelo Williams production as a starter in this offense and compared it to what Bell had did as a starter. The results of all of my research? The offense was more productive with Williams surprisingly. They scored more points. So, why was that exactly?

Well, I love me a multidimensional RB who can run, block and catch. Somebody you don't have to take out for a specialist or a platoon of RBs. Love watching Bell play, love watching him catch the ball, but EVERYTHING IN MODERATION!!!

I am fine with a RB catching 60 balls a year, but when you are catching 85 in a year, when you are being targeted so much, that you have more targets than ALL of the TEs combined, when you are targeted more than somebody like Smith-Schuster, well, that starts to become a problem.

If I am a defense I want the Steelers to spend precious targets throwing to Bell, why not give up short underneath passes at 7.7 yards a clip this past season? And Bell only had 2 TD receiving for the year.

The more time this offense squanders opportunities forcing it to Bell, means JuJu gets less chances, means Vance McDonald gets less chances, means Bryant gets less chances.

When I saw the offense with Williams as the RB, Ben/Haley were more willing to involve everybody on offense, to take advantage of all of the weapons. With Bell, it is like they get enamored with his talent and then develop this myopic tunnel vision that actually limits the offense.

Also, this past year showed that it is easier than ever to find a RB who can run and catch. You can find a RB with Bell's versatility in rounds 2 and 3 each and every year. He is that replaceable.

The Saints Kamara as a rookie, rushed for over 700 yards, a 6.1 yard average, 8 TDs and oh, had 81 catches for 826 yards and 5 TDs, that is 10.1 yards a catch. He was a 3rd round pick.

Everybody knows about Kareem Hunt for KC, he was a 3rd rounder too.

Minnesota's Dalvin Cook was a 2nd rounder and before he got hurt he looked to have great potential to be part of this renaissance of great runner/catcher that are in the NFL now. Bell is not unique, there was a dry spell, everything follows a cycle, now that type of RB is back and plentiful.

It would be stupid to pay Bell what he wants when, yeah, that type of RB really does grow on trees apparently, and teams are plucking from that tree every year now.


I’m not paying Bell what he wants, but your logic is flawed otherwise about RB targets.

A RB that can catch the ball and pick up 7.7 yards on average is helping the offense stay ahead of the chains.

Multiple targets for multiple targets’ sake is silly.

Last year was last year. I don’t see the offense becoming limited and enameled of Bell this season.

In fact, as someone else pointed out, when Bell started being more receiver than RB this year, the offense has done better.

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 Post subject: Re: Latest Drama Angle - Bell @ next year
PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:41 am 
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I’m trying to win a super bowl...I can care less about what happens after this season...my biggest thing I’m focused on is this team I’m on right now, playing for/with my brothers, & bringing back a 7th ring! what happens next year is irrelevant to my goals


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 Post subject: Re: Latest Drama Angle - Bell @ next year
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Bell is dumb. Players in general are dumb. If we all just accept that notion, and watch the game for what it is, we would all be less agitated in general.

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 Post subject: Re: Latest Drama Angle - Bell @ next year
PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:00 am 
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Unless you have a trade already worked out with Bell on the FT, you have to let him walk.
14.5mil is just too much for this team to endure IMO.


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