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 Post subject: Fort vs Moats
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:01 pm 
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Sounds like Moats is getting some serious reps at ILB this week in practice and could possibly start.

Can someone help explain this logic? I have always thought Fort played ok, and certainly better than moving an OLB inside that is probably slower than Fort.

Why not give Fort a shot and if he sucks go to Plan B, this seems like Plan B out of the gate.


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 Post subject: Re: Fort vs Moats
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I'm all for Moats getting reps at ILB. Look how they are going down like flies. It took Dirty Red One game to get himself injured. It's all about having Depth and being prepared if anyone else gets injured. We need 4 ILBs to go to the Playoffs with. And we need them to do much more than be a stop gap. We need a high level of play. Do it for Shaz!

I do think TJ has the IQ and the speed to switch to ILB. What he can't get is the reps. So I expect TJ to stay outside this season. But It's a shame to not play Deebo, who's healthy and ready.


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 Post subject: Re: Fort vs Moats
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JJT wrote:
Sounds like Moats is getting some serious reps at ILB this week in practice and could possibly start.

Can someone help explain this logic? I have always thought Fort played ok, and certainly better than moving an OLB inside that is probably slower than Fort.

Why not give Fort a shot and if he sucks go to Plan B, this seems like Plan B out of the gate.


Not sure?! Maybe because he's a vet?

I do know, as an NFL football player, Moats is garbage and I have no idea how he continues to make the team. His film says, he's a JAG.


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I think I'm in the minority here, but I thought Fort was mediocre at best on Monday. Gio ran through his tackles 3-4 times. Wasn't impressed.


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Charles Demarr wrote:
I think I'm in the minority here, but I thought Fort was mediocre at best on Monday. Gio ran through his tackles 3-4 times. Wasn't impressed.



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 Post subject: Re: Fort vs Moats
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Fort did a shit job of lining up the defense.

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86n96 wrote:
Fort did a shit job of lining up the defense.


He sure did and understandably so.

Shaz is the quarterback of our D. Similar to losing a Troy Polamalu. Like I stated, it's likely, to be a huge void moving forward. The pressure lies on the offense, at this point. Winning a championship has now, has become 10x more difficult.


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86n96 wrote:
Fort did a shit job of lining up the defense.


I think Gay took over that job about 5 plays in for Fort. I am sure the classroom sessions for all defensive players will be ramped up this week with more film and tendency study to make sure everyone recognizes the same thing across the ball.


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Charles Demarr wrote:
I think I'm in the minority here, but I thought Fort was mediocre at best on Monday. Gio ran through his tackles 3-4 times. Wasn't impressed.


If you're in the minority, then the majority is retarded

Fort sucks -- he's a good backup, he's a terrible starter

Try anyone else please -- I think Moats will be much better - but would prefer Watt there


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I can understand the move of Moats at ILB if that happens. When he was in Buffalo, they did use him early on as an ILB before he eventually moved to OLB.

While I think Fort is probably best in coverage, on early downs Moats could give us a semblance of decent run defense on early downs. Plan might be Moats early on run downs and then he comes off for Fort/Gay, or some other player on obvious 3rd down pass plays?

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Scunge wrote:
I can understand the move of Moats at ILB if that happens. When he was in Buffalo, they did use him early on as an ILB before he eventually moved to OLB.

While I think Fort is probably best in coverage, on early downs Moats could give us a semblance of decent run defense on early downs. Plan might be Moats early on run downs and then he comes off for Fort/Gay, or some other player on obvious 3rd down pass plays?


Since we're likely, to see a lot of the Rat-fucks BIG package personnel on Sunday night, can they at least give Harrison a hat, so he can come in to set the edge, when they decide to run the rock down our fucking pie holes?


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Gay was alternating with Fort-- they were sending in plays from the sideline, it looked like.

Spence got 1/2 1st team reps, so don't be surprised to see him starting.

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 Post subject: Re: Fort vs Moats
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I remember Moats playing ILB for the Steelers also. Perhaps it was his first season In Pittsburgh.


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 Post subject: Re: Fort vs Moats
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
Gay was alternating with Fort-- they were sending in plays from the sideline, it looked like.

Spence got 1/2 1st team reps, so don't be surprised to see him starting.


What I do not understand is how Fort could have problems calling the defenses. He has been long enough to have a good grasp of our system I would think.


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bradshaw2ben wrote:
Gay was alternating with Fort-- they were sending in plays from the sideline, it looked like.

Spence got 1/2 1st team reps, so don't be surprised to see him starting.

Spence was drafted for his football acumen, if I recall correctly. Like Shazier without superhuman athletic ability.

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 Post subject: Re: Fort vs Moats
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86n96 wrote:
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Gay was alternating with Fort-- they were sending in plays from the sideline, it looked like.

Spence got 1/2 1st team reps, so don't be surprised to see him starting.

Spence was drafted for his football acumen, if I recall correctly. Like Shazier without superhuman athletic ability.


Then that gets us beat in the playoffs.


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Spence was also brought back for his special team prowess as well. You lose Shazier and Dirty Red in the same game, who knows how much time Matakevich will miss but he was one of our best special teams player, made a lot of tackles.

A game or two ago, the Ravens punter Sam Koch threw a pass to pick up a first down on a fake punt.

3 years ago, Sam Koch tried to do the same thing against the Steelers. He threw the ball to TE Nick Boyle but Sean Spence sniffed it out quickly and made the tackle for a loss of 3 yards. Don't discount Spence as a special teams player. It is actually good fortune that we are able to sign a former player who knows the defense and can play special teams as well.

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Just think about Gronk. Who covers Gronk?

I think Watt, Dupree and maybe Davis are it, unless they pull a big Allen surprise.

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bradshaw2ben wrote:
Just think about Gronk. Who covers Gronk?

I think Watt, Dupree and maybe Davis are it, unless they pull a big Allen surprise.

I say Watt all day. TE on TE.

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Spence was also brought back for his special team prowess as well. You lose Shazier and Dirty Red in the same game, who knows how much time Matakevich will miss but he was one of our best special teams player, made a lot of tackles.

A game or two ago, the Ravens punter Sam Koch threw a pass to pick up a first down on a fake punt.

3 years ago, Sam Koch tried to do the same thing against the Steelers. He threw the ball to TE Nick Boyle but Sean Spence sniffed it out quickly and made the tackle for a loss of 3 yards. Don't discount Spence as a special teams player. It is actually good fortune that we are able to sign a former player who knows the defense and can play special teams as well.



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 Post subject: Re: Fort vs Moats
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:49 pm 
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Boy....ILB got thin quick.

Re: gronk. Always assumed davis. Good coverage skills and definitely physical enough. But the watt thought is intriguing...similar types of athlete I think....especially the gangly arms and monster paws. Gronk shouldn't be able to outreach for a ball which it seems he does so often.


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 Post subject: Re: Fort vs Moats
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Yea, I would like to see Gronk try to go WWF on someone his own size like Watt. Hell, if he did something WWF to one of our DBs I would put in Harrison on the next plan and tell him to take Gronk's fuckin' head off.


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 Post subject: Re: Fort vs Moats
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JJT wrote:
Sounds like Moats is getting some serious reps at ILB this week in practice and could possibly start.

Can someone help explain this logic? I have always thought Fort played ok, and certainly better than moving an OLB inside that is probably slower than Fort.

Why not give Fort a shot and if he sucks go to Plan B, this seems like Plan B out of the gate.

While your at it, explain the logic of starting Cody Senseless over Sutton this week (DK Sports report). I am guessing no Deebo too.

The most stubborn team in the NFL.


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