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 Post subject: Re: Just watched the full interview of Tomlin
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:46 pm 
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Belichick went 11-5 with Casell at QB. Usually that's good enough for the playoffs, so I won't hold it against him the Pats didn't make the playoffs that year. But no one is seriously going to tell me that Belichick would have won the Super Bowl that year with Cassell at QB if they'd qualified for the playoffs, are they? Even Beilichick needs a franchise QB for that. Maybe an interesting question is how good BELICHICK will do without Brady. What has Belichick ever won without Brady?

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 Post subject: Re: Just watched the full interview of Tomlin
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Obviously wrote:
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Oh yes, everyone! Let's all keep our posts in line with Lit's criteria now!


You're quite welcome to show why your post was not stupid. Go for it.


Tomlin will struggle to win when Ben retires. I don't think there's anything stupid about that unless you disagree.

Belichick won with Matt Cassell who is about the same as Landry Jones.

Stick your condescending attitude sideways.

You're saying that when Ben retires Tomlin won't be able to go 10-6 and make a playoff spot? Yeah, we'll just agree to disagree.

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 Post subject: Re: Just watched the full interview of Tomlin
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Obviously wrote:
Still Lit wrote:
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Oh yes, everyone! Let's all keep our posts in line with Lit's criteria now!


You're quite welcome to show why your post was not stupid. Go for it.


Tomlin will struggle to win when Ben retires. I don't think there's anything stupid about that unless you disagree.

Belichick won with Matt Cassell who is about the same as Landry Jones.

Stick your condescending attitude sideways.


Mike Zimmer is 10-2 with Case Keenum, a 3rd string journeyman?

So does it follow that:

Zimmer > Belicheat (2nd stringer Cassell) > Tomlin (with mystery 1st string QB from the future) ?

We here in the 1st World have too much time on our hands....obviously.

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 Post subject: Re: Just watched the full interview of Tomlin
PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:57 am 
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
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Tomlin won with Dennis Fucking Dixon, A sundial, a QB worse than Kent Graham, and Charlie Batch. I'll even give you the Cassell comparison, although I think Cassell is better.


I must have missed that full season with Dennis Dixon at the helm. Man my memory must be going south

I'm saying the totality of who Tomlin had in non-Ben games was the same or worse than BB, and his team won at the same or better rate.


I remember Tomlin getting beat by Ryan Mallette who is pretty much Dennis Dixon


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 Post subject: Re: Just watched the full interview of Tomlin
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Fact remains, no coaches make runs with shitty QBs and plenty fail even with elite ones. Only exception to not failing with elite QB is Hoodie and half of you moan they cheated to do it.

So this QB argument about Tomlin is utterly silly.

Guy his plenty of worts. But the QB argument is plain fucking lousy.

Line ChicagoSteel and I both noted: Zimmerman must be best coach in the league by far.

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 Post subject: Re: Just watched the full interview of Tomlin
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Still Lit wrote:
Fact remains, no coaches make runs with shitty QBs and plenty fail even with elite ones. Only exception to not failing with elite QB is Hoodie and half of you moan they cheated to do it.

So this QB argument about Tomlin is utterly silly.

Guy his plenty of worts. But the QB argument is plain fucking lousy.

Line ChicagoSteel and I both noted: Zimmerman must be best coach in the league by far.


A couple of thoughts:
1. Make no mistake I yell it from the rooftops, certainly not moaning about Marsha cheating. Because he did fucking cheat and in my opinion did far more cheating then they were caught doing and nothing will persuade me otherwise.
2. Zimmerman is a damn good coach. Damn good.
3. Just before they wheeled me into surgery for my shoulder last Friday I said to my wife, "if my fat ass has a heart attack or stroke during this surgery make sure you log onto this esteemed website and tell those asshats I'll miss them and to spread the word, Tom Brady is a fucking cheater and will never be GOAT." Then, I told her I loved her and the kids as I laughed while she called me an asshole. :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Just watched the full interview of Tomlin
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SteelThrillsseeker wrote:
Still Lit wrote:
Fact remains, no coaches make runs with shitty QBs and plenty fail even with elite ones. Only exception to not failing with elite QB is Hoodie and half of you moan they cheated to do it.

So this QB argument about Tomlin is utterly silly.

Guy his plenty of worts. But the QB argument is plain fucking lousy.

Line ChicagoSteel and I both noted: Zimmerman must be best coach in the league by far.


A couple of thoughts:
1. Make no mistake I yell it from the rooftops, certainly not moaning about Marsha cheating. Because he did fucking cheat and in my opinion did far more cheating then they were caught doing and nothing will persuade me otherwise.
2. Zimmerman is a damn good coach. Damn good.
3. Just before they wheeled me into surgery for my shoulder last Friday I said to my wife, "if my fat ass has a heart attack or stroke during this surgery make sure you log onto this esteemed website and tell those asshats I'll miss them and to spread the word, Tom Brady is a fucking cheater and will never be GOAT." Then, I told her I loved her and the kids as I laughed while she called me an asshole. :lol:



Get well soon brotha, that's also a Realman move! Wife would have hit me before surgery.

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 Post subject: Re: Just watched the full interview of Tomlin
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Still Lit wrote:
Fact remains, no coaches make runs with shitty QBs and plenty fail even with elite ones. Only exception to not failing with elite QB is Hoodie and half of you moan they cheated to do it.

So this QB argument about Tomlin is utterly silly.

Guy his plenty of worts. But the QB argument is plain fucking lousy.

Line ChicagoSteel and I both noted: Zimmerman must be best coach in the league by far.
Tomlin makes home made beer or whisky?

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 Post subject: Re: Just watched the full interview of Tomlin
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Tomlin's record without Ben:

Batch 3-3
Dixon 2-1
Leftwich 0-1
Vick 2-1
Jones 2-2

Total: 9-8

Getting to 9-8 with that crop of QBs is a freakin' miracle! We don't know about Landry yet but none of the others ever played another down in the NFL after leaving the Steelers.


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 Post subject: Re: Just watched the full interview of Tomlin
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TTP wrote:
Tomlin's record without Ben:

Batch 3-3
Dixon 2-1
Leftwich 0-1
Vick 2-1
Jones 2-2

Total: 9-8

Getting to 9-8 with that crop of QBs is a freakin' miracle! We don't know about Landry yet but none of the others ever played another down in the NFL after leaving the Steelers.

I believe Belichick is 56-67 without Brady.

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 Post subject: Re: Just watched the full interview of Tomlin
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
TTP wrote:
Tomlin's record without Ben:

Batch 3-3
Dixon 2-1
Leftwich 0-1
Vick 2-1
Jones 2-2

Total: 9-8

Getting to 9-8 with that crop of QBs is a freakin' miracle! We don't know about Landry yet but none of the others ever played another down in the NFL after leaving the Steelers.

I believe Belichick is 56-67 without Brady.


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 Post subject: Re: Just watched the full interview of Tomlin
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Beleshit was 41-55 prior to creating his fucking video recording cheating with Ernie Adams. He had only one winning season, 11-5 with the Browns in 1994.

Coincidentally he beat the Patriots in the playoffs. That was the Cleveland Browns last playoff win... :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Just watched the full interview of Tomlin
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Baltostiller wrote:
Beleshit was 41-55 prior to creating his fucking video recording cheating with Ernie Adams. He had only one winning season, 11-5 with the Browns in 1994.

Coincidentally he beat the Patriots in the playoffs. That was the Cleveland Browns last playoff win... :lol:


He took over a Browns team that was 3-13, so going 11-5 three years later was not an insignificant accomplishment.


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 Post subject: Re: Just watched the full interview of Tomlin
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He had them 11-5 and a legit threat until the move debacle. I think 3 losses in the 11-5 year (+playoff w-l) was agst steelers (could be wrong).

To discredit what he did in cleveland is numbers-blind revisionist history. But that's what we do these days so I guess it's expected.


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 Post subject: Re: Just watched the full interview of Tomlin
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That's also the last time the steelers beat bill b in playoffs. 0-3 since.


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 Post subject: Re: Just watched the full interview of Tomlin
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Miter Saw wrote:
He had them 11-5 and a legit threat until the move debacle. I think 3 losses in the 11-5 year (+playoff w-l) was agst steelers (could be wrong).

To discredit what he did in cleveland is numbers-blind revisionist history. But that's what we do these days so I guess it's expected.


You're not wrong. Steelers beat Browns twice in regular season, then 29-9 at TRS in playoffs.


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 Post subject: Re: Just watched the full interview of Tomlin
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swissvale72 wrote:
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He had them 11-5 and a legit threat until the move debacle. I think 3 losses in the 11-5 year (+playoff w-l) was agst steelers (could be wrong).

To discredit what he did in cleveland is numbers-blind revisionist history. But that's what we do these days so I guess it's expected.


You're not wrong. Steelers beat Browns twice in regular season, then 29-9 at TRS in playoffs.




For a good while pretty sure Cowher owned Bellichek.


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 Post subject: Re: Just watched the full interview of Tomlin
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GreekSteel wrote:
swissvale72 wrote:
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He had them 11-5 and a legit threat until the move debacle. I think 3 losses in the 11-5 year (+playoff w-l) was agst steelers (could be wrong).

To discredit what he did in cleveland is numbers-blind revisionist history. But that's what we do these days so I guess it's expected.


You're not wrong. Steelers beat Browns twice in regular season, then 29-9 at TRS in playoffs.




For a good while pretty sure Cowher owned Bellichek.


Exception to that would October '93. It was pre-Sunday Ticket, pre the proliferation of sports bar. I drove my family to the Holiday Inn in Rutland, Vermont as they picked up the Plattsburgh, NY affiliate which had Steelers-Browns. Mother-fuckin' Eric Metcalf ran TWO punts back for touchdowns to beat the Steelers. My son was 9 months old at the time, cried all night long, had to sit with him in the lobby at 4am.


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 Post subject: Re: Just watched the full interview of Tomlin
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swissvale72 wrote:
Exception to that would October '93. It was pre-Sunday Ticket, pre the proliferation of sports bar. I drove my family to the Holiday Inn in Rutland, Vermont as they picked up the Plattsburgh, NY affiliate which had Steelers-Browns. Mother-fuckin' Eric Metcalf ran TWO punts back for touchdowns to beat the Steelers. My son was 9 months old at the time, cried all night long, had to sit with him in the lobby at 4am.

OMG, I was FURIOUS after that game. We generally outplayed the Browns, we'd just get a lead, and then Metcalf takes a punt to the house. One I can forgive. It's football, SH*T happens. But we scratch and claw back to the lead, and then Metcalf takes a SECOND punt to the house for the win??? Oh, I was livid a long time after that. The Eric Metcalf game. :evil:

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 Post subject: Re: Just watched the full interview of Tomlin
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God damn if he isn't impressive & engaging. I fully believe his well developed line of Bullshit is the exact way he thinks to himself...no offense Swiss. Guy is an open book, which is refreshing, but truthful almost to a fault.

I admire what Belichek has done, but I wouldn't be nearly as rabid of a fan if he coached the Steelers. (I'm outside of Steeler Country). Cowher & Tomlins passion for the game keeps me watching.

Also, this team is pretty good.


Outside of NE, every other fanbase would kill to have this guy.


No question about it. He has his warts but you don’t win 60-70% of games by accident. After seeing some of the God awful coaching in the NFL this year I’m happy we have Tomlin.


Don't worry, Tomlin still has plenty of God awful coaching left.
The suck is still strong in this one.
He brings it out now and then.

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