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 Post subject: Re: Gilbert suspended 4 games for PEDs
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I'd be worried that maybe Villanueva was taking PEDs as well, but we all know the only drugs he's on are freedom, 'Merica, and the blood of dead terrorists.


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 Post subject: Re: Gilbert suspended 4 games for PEDs
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On the bright side, the Steelers don't have to release anyone now to make room for Cam Sutton.

The Steelers signed a T to the practice squad this morning. I thought that perhaps this was because Feiler or Hawkins was getting the ax in favor of Sutton. Turns out, they probably knew Gilbert's suspensions was coming.


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 Post subject: Re: Gilbert suspended 4 games for PEDs
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Good start to the week. At least we get him back for the playoffs rested.

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 Post subject: Re: Gilbert suspended 4 games for PEDs
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Misses Pats

I can see BB grinning like the Grinch

There are plenty of things to worry about when playing the Pats. Pass rush and run defense are not among them.

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 Post subject: Re: Gilbert suspended 4 games for PEDs
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I will be back after I do my usual rationalization, telling myself why it's not so bad, Haden is more important v. the Pats, he'll be fresh for playoffs, etc., etc.

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 Post subject: Re: Gilbert suspended 4 games for PEDs
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Christ on a raft


Christ would just waltz across the water.

Haven't you read the Bible?

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 Post subject: Re: Gilbert suspended 4 games for PEDs
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StillerInCT wrote:
Good start to the week. At least we get him back for the playoffs rested.


Yeah, we're gonna need him him for the Wild Card round.


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 Post subject: Re: Gilbert suspended 4 games for PEDs
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Dale Lolley story last week.The red zone differences with and without Gilbert are alarming!


The loss of an offensive tackle can be devastating to any football team. Look at the Cowboys in Week 10 of this season as proof. Playing without All-Pro Tyron Smith, they lined up third-year player Chaz Green at left tackle against the Falcons. They might as well have put a turnstile there and charged a toll. Atlanta sacked Dak Prescott eight times, including six by Adrian Clayborn working against Green, in a 27-7 rout of Dallas.

Offensive tackles, particularly right tackles, don’t get the publicity of a quarterback, running back or wide receiver, but they might be just as important in the grand scheme of offensive efficiency.



The Steelers know all about that. They have played five full games without right tackle Marcus Gilbert this season. They’re 3-2 in those games. They’re 5-0 when he starts.

Not only are the Steelers unbeaten when he plays, but they also were 10-3 last season when he was in the lineup, 1-2 when he was not.

Offensive efficiency is a big part of that. When they’ve had Gilbert at right tackle, they are averaging just under 27 points this season when he starts and finishes a game. When he has been on the field, they are 10 of 18 in scoring touchdowns on red zone trips. Without him, they have scored on just seven of 23 chances.

Throw out a drive at the end of a win over Indianapolis two weeks ago when the Steelers were setting up a game-winning field goal and one last Thursday night against the Titans when they were taking a knee to run out the clock following an interception, and the Steelers are 10 of 16 in the red zone with Gilbert in the lineup.

I mentioned the startling statistics to Gilbert following the Steelers’ 40-17 beatdown of the Titans.

“Is that right?” he asked. “Oh man, I need to stay on the field then.”

Indeed.

This is not to say backup Chris Hubbard has been bad. After all, the Steelers have allowed just 14 sacks this season, but he’s not Gilbert.

“Hubs played great,” Maurkice Pouncey told me. “Some of the red zone stuff when he was in there just didn’t go our way.”

But a big reason things didn’t go the Steelers’ way in those games could be attributed to not having Gilbert available. The Steelers have felt he has played at a Pro Bowl level for the past couple of seasons. But because he plays on the right side of the line instead of the left, he hasn’t been rewarded with that honor yet.

Because of the games he has missed, it’s unlikely he’ll be voted to the Pro Bowl this season. Then again, the Steelers’ goal is to have none of their players participate in the Pro Bowl, which is played a week before the Super Bowl.

“Gil’s a great player,” Pouncey told me. “Right-siders usually don’t make the Pro Bowl, but in my eyes, he’s a Pro Bowler.”

Pouncey, Gilbert’s teammate at the University of Florida as well as with the Steelers, might be a bit biased. But the tackle’s value to the offense cannot be denied. At 6-6, 315 pounds – Gilbert dropped down from his listed weight of 330 pounds before last season – he remains a powerful force in the team’s run-blocking scheme. He’s adept at pass blocking, as well.

“Running the ball, he can get guys moving,” Pouncey said. “Pass blocking, he does a great job. He’s just a great, all-around football player.”


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 Post subject: Re: Gilbert suspended 4 games for PEDs
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Riding high after our most dominant win of the year and here is a nice SHITBURGER to feast on before Thanksgiving.

This sucks.


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 Post subject: Re: Gilbert suspended 4 games for PEDs
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Louis Lipps Service wrote:
I'd be worried that maybe Villanueva was taking PEDs as well, but we all know the only drugs he's on are freedom, 'Merica, and the blood of dead terrorists.


Also it's safe to say if he's on PEDs they're not working.

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 Post subject: Re: Gilbert suspended 4 games for PEDs
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Pabst wrote:
BarryFoster wrote:
Misses Pats

I can see BB grinning like the Grinch

There are plenty of things to worry about when playing the Pats. Pass rush and run defense are not among them.


Yeah, you're right. BB never attacks the opponent's weak link. My bad.

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 Post subject: Re: Gilbert suspended 4 games for PEDs
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BarryFoster wrote:
Pabst wrote:
BarryFoster wrote:
Misses Pats

I can see BB grinning like the Grinch

There are plenty of things to worry about when playing the Pats. Pass rush and run defense are not among them.


Yeah, you're right. BB never attacks the opponent's weak link. My bad.


And magically he always seems to find a pass rush and run D against us.


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 Post subject: Re: Gilbert suspended 4 games for PEDs
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I saw him trending on Twitter and I knew it wasn't good. At least it's not a season ender.

I think Gilbert's earlier injury was by far the most crucial to the success of the team. He is quite underrated, and Hubbard isn't in his universe.

This is big.

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 Post subject: Re: Gilbert suspended 4 games for PEDs
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After watching the Titans game I am ready to put Marcus Gilbert as the best RT in the NFL.

I thought he was 2nd maybe 3rd.

Gilbert can handle speed or power off the edge
His ability to get movement and to make blocks at the 2nd level is second to no player


Huge loss.

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 Post subject: Re: Gilbert suspended 4 games for PEDs
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We are all Darth Vader screaming "Noooooooo!"


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 Post subject: Re: Gilbert suspended 4 games for PEDs
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BarryFoster wrote:
Pabst wrote:
BarryFoster wrote:
Misses Pats

I can see BB grinning like the Grinch

There are plenty of things to worry about when playing the Pats. Pass rush and run defense are not among them.


Yeah, you're right. BB never attacks the opponent's weak link. My bad.

Offensively? Yes. On defense, not so much.

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 Post subject: Re: Gilbert suspended 4 games for PEDs
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The good news about a suspension Is that it has a definite start and end..

Makes it much easier to plan, and allows players to know how long they have to sustain, and allows management to make calculated moves that might not be apparent when there is a “nagging” injury.

With injury and suspension comes great opportunity. Hubbard went up to base camp 3 to try to acclimatize. Then was sent back to base camp two. Now maybe he can make the push back to base camp 3 and maybe even the summit with his week at base camp 2 under his belt and watching Edmund Gilbert.

Trying to put the positive spin on it.


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 Post subject: Re: Gilbert suspended 4 games for PEDs
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5-0 with Gilbert that a big number.He is having an all pro season when playing but we now have to go with Hubbard who has played well in Relief. But have to hope he stays healthy


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 Post subject: Re: Gilbert suspended 4 games for PEDs
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shit..always something..good thing is he will stay healthy not playing and be fresh for playoffs..


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 Post subject: Re: Gilbert suspended 4 games for PEDs
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Now we have to hope his All-Proness wasn't because of the PEDs.

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 Post subject: Re: Gilbert suspended 4 games for PEDs
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Shit On a Shingle! This means Hubbard will fill in and we all know there's a big drop off from Gilbert to Hubbard. I hope Ben remembers to take out his 100m sprinting cleats and clean off the dust. He's going to need them. This Sucks!


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Where is Flozell when you really need him?

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 Post subject: Re: Gilbert suspended 4 games for PEDs
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Where is Flozell when you really need him?

At the hotel.

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Smashmouth21 wrote:
Steel Drummer wrote:
Where is Flozell when you really need him?

At the hotel.

;)

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