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 Post subject: Key Plays on Offense Against Jax
PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:12 am 
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1st THFG. Bell run for 3. Bell tackled for loss. Ben threw it away, nobody open.

Jax’s punting - probability of scoring goes way down when backed up inside the five followed by a penalty.

Interception by Ben. Really caused by Connor not picking up the blitz. One job to do and he did not execute. That is what caused the interception. Connor wet the bed on the prior play too. Did not block and did not get open. Ben exasperated.

Poor run plays...two in a row. AV missed a key block. 3rd down play Alien across the middle; if James sits on his route more maybe Alien gets more yardage. Steelers punt.

Another great punt by Jax. Probability of scoring is going to drop big time.

Alien arm barred for 10 yards on long ball. Nothing called.
Alien drop on at the first down marker. Great play by DB on next pass to juju. Steelers punt.

Not enough time outs. Nobody open. THFG to end the half. 7-6 Jax.



2nd Half.

Jess James misses key block. Bell sacked. Piss poor attempt. He sucks. Brown gets first down eventually - luckily.
Red Zone - screen to JuJu was the big miss. Juju missed the read or audible to hot route. JuJu’s fault and why we got a THTD. Poor execution. Bell split out gains 3. Brown’s double move did not work. FG. 9-7 Steelers

Tipped ball. Pick 6. Lineman doing his job. Dlinemen too far away to engage with out breaking pocket for pass pro. Brown might have gone to the house on that route. He was held on his break, so timing might have been off. 13-9 Jax

Decastro misses block big time. Bell sacked for loss. Bell lost his footing too.
Foster misses block on RB screen. Little to no gain. Brown and Ben bail out the team
on 3rd and 12.
AV misses easy block/pass rush. Ben sacked. Shovel pass not executed. James maintains his block way too long, and throws the timing off. It was set for a wall of blockers with a slow TE. Not sure what would have happened. 3rd and 18 coming up.

Pick 6. Ball is thrown really well. AB would have made the catch. Poor execution on previous play causing another 3rd and long. Not Todd. Not Ben. Line play including TE. 20-9 Jax

Steelers punt. Because Hunter ran a button hook into the defenders when he should have run an out. Ben threw the out. Brown small gain. Next play no open receivers, no time, Hubbard abused. Sack.

Jax FG. 23- 9 Jax.

Check down to Bell for loss of 2ish. Ben slings it for a first to JUJu. Misses brown by inches, surprised it is overturned and not called a bang bang trap against ground. Brown’s next pass tipped. JuJu falls and Ben is intercepted.

Nearly, garbage time, but Ben is still slinging. Some great throws on this last series. Suggest you go back and watch. Why people are screaming about Ben is beyond my comprehension. The TD to Brown is nullified by Castro’s take down, followed shortly by Ben’s last int as AV gets driven into Ben’s throw. Pretty sure that caused some mustard being taken off, throw has a wobble. Great play by DB too. This particular series actually has a ton of classic Ben.

Strange game. Poor execution in key areas, setting up the need for perfect play every time when Steelers brought their B game. B game wasn’t going to cut it against Jax.

Ben despite the INTs had a pretty damn good game. Connor was a goat.


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 Post subject: Re: Key Plays on Offense Against Jax
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I had a similar take to all of this except:
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Pick 6. Ball is thrown really well. AB would have made the catch. Poor execution on previous play causing another 3rd and long. Not Todd. Not Ben. Line play including TE. 20-9 Jax

Being fair, the throw is a little late and a little high. The penalty for that minor miss was catastrophic, though.

You're right, though-- 3rd & 18 is the reason the throw had to be so great in order to work.

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 Post subject: Re: Key Plays on Offense Against Jax
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If you really watch this game, it can be said that it is so close to being a blowout the other way. I suspect if you take 3 mistakes away, and they don’t have to be the interceptions this game has a completely different result.

The more I think about it....nobody is having fun on offense. They are constipated with ambition, expectations, contracts, and potential. No smiles whatsoever on offense. Dread.

They need to go out one game and go have some fun! Boys of autumn and all that bs. They are entirely too tight and walking on the razor’s edge of something for no reason at all.

Steeler’s O; have some damn fun!


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 Post subject: Re: Key Plays on Offense Against Jax
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One thing that is definitely in their heads is red zone scoring. Decastro quote from last week, you can tell they are playing with fear closer they get.

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 Post subject: Re: Key Plays on Offense Against Jax
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Is it any wonder they are playing tight on offense given the way it’s coached?

Our “scheme” constantly puts them in close games where but one mistake can ruin the day.


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 Post subject: Re: Key Plays on Offense Against Jax
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955876 wrote:
Is it any wonder they are playing tight on offense given the way it’s coached?

Our “scheme” constantly puts them in close games where but one mistake can ruin the day.

You are not kidding. Every series is like watching the last drive of a playoff game with them. It is more than just coaching though. They have a monkey on their back. Coaching is definitely part of it. They will be in fine shape with a couple tweaks.... let’s not forget Ajayi putting the wood to us last year in the regular season and then getting the smack down in the playoffs. Alll you need is a trend line upward through December.


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 Post subject: Re: Key Plays on Offense Against Jax
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LakecrestSteeler wrote:
If you really watch this game, it can be said that it is so close to being a blowout the other way. I suspect if you take 3 mistakes away, and they don’t have to be the interceptions this game has a completely different result.

The more I think about it....nobody is having fun on offense. They are constipated with ambition, expectations, contracts, and potential. No smiles whatsoever on offense. Dread.

They need to go out one game and go have some fun! Boys of autumn and all that bs. They are entirely too tight and walking on the razor’s edge of something for no reason at all.

Steeler’s O; have some damn fun!
Exactly, first 3 red zone opportunities turned into 7's makes that game way different. Agreed.

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 Post subject: Re: Key Plays on Offense Against Jax
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
You're right, though-- 3rd & 18 is the reason the throw had to be so great in order to work.


How many times have we talked about the old Ben makes that play.....but under Haley we almost always take the safe dump-off and punt?

Pretty good throw, thru the best hands in the NFL. Certainly a turnover - on 3rd and 18 - you can live with. Part about it that really sucks is it will be back to the safe dump-off unless we really, really have to make that play.

I have always been a believer that consistently throwing short of the sticks is losing football.

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 Post subject: Re: Key Plays on Offense Against Jax
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Kodiak wrote:
bradshaw2ben wrote:
You're right, though-- 3rd & 18 is the reason the throw had to be so great in order to work.


How many times have we talked about the old Ben makes that play.....but under Haley we almost always take the safe dump-off and punt?

Pretty good throw, thru the best hands in the NFL. Certainly a turnover - on 3rd and 18 - you can live with. Part about it that really sucks is it will be back to the safe dump-off unless we really, really have to make that play.

I have always been a believer that consistently throwing short of the sticks is losing football.


I tend to agree. Not losing in the sense that you can’t win, but losing in the sense that the potential for error goes up a fair amount. You throw in a couple of the lawn dart punts Jax nailed us with and the chance of error goes up 10 fold inside the 5 yard line and the need for mistake free football goes way up.

Lebeau made a living in stopping the run and waiting for the passing game to screw up the process. We have embraced a philosophy that plays right into a Lebeau’s mentality.

Get Bell the ball more. Don’t split him out. More center screens. Good bye James and hello McDonald and Grimble. Bring Alien in right and use him like a tight end. More screens over the middle. More passes over the middle. I like the shovel passes too. Very few second and shorts Sunday.


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 Post subject: Re: Key Plays on Offense Against Jax
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LakecrestSteeler wrote:
Not losing in the sense that you can’t win, but losing in the sense that the potential for error goes up a fair amount.


3rd&18 is not the best example - I won't bitch about taking 10-15 yards the defense is willing to concede and punting.

But when you're throwing 3 yards short of the sticks on 3rd&5(?!?!?!), 3rd&8....if you're OC can't scheme easy throws past the sticks on 3rd and 5 he needs to be shitcanned yesterday.

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