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 Post subject: Re: Is the HaleyBall offense a consequence of....
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Furthermore.....why do we have such chronic redzone issues ? What would fix that ?


People aren't going to like this answer, but the one constant of shitty RZ performance is Ben. He's just not good down there, whether it's him checking into the wrong plays or execution errors


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 Post subject: Re: Is the HaleyBall offense a consequence of....
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Is the HaleyBall offense a consequence of....


Lackadaisical approach, poor situational football play calling that's apparently endorsed by the FO and head coach. Example: You don't feel like practicing Wednesday's? Awe... el pobrecito..., go ahead and take the day off. Or..., it's 3rd down and 2 go ahead and have Bryant streak down the sideline for a 40 yard bomb that has less chance of completing than to simply Run Bell or Conner the 3 yards and a cloud of dust. /rant


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SteelerChef wrote:
Furthermore.....why do we have such chronic redzone issues ? What would fix that ?


People aren't going to like this answer, but the one constant of shitty RZ performance is Ben. He's just not good down there, whether it's him checking into the wrong plays or execution errors

Why was Ben able to be so good in 2005 & 2007? Was it just his mobility?

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 Post subject: Re: Is the HaleyBall offense a consequence of....
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Haley doesn't know how to scheme guys open at our own 20 yard line! How the hell could he scheme guys open from inside the 10 yard line with such little field to work with? If you couple this with him either telegraphing what he wants to do (extra lineman and 1 WR or empty backfield and Ben in the gun), you then realize why we can't score in the red zone. Haley is no strategist - that's for sure!


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 Post subject: Re: Is the HaleyBall offense a consequence of....
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
Donnie Brasco wrote:
SteelerChef wrote:
Furthermore.....why do we have such chronic redzone issues ? What would fix that ?


People aren't going to like this answer, but the one constant of shitty RZ performance is Ben. He's just not good down there, whether it's him checking into the wrong plays or execution errors

Why was Ben able to be so good in 2005 & 2007? Was it just his mobility?


Heath Miller and Hines Ward could get open in tight space.

Randle El a bit too.

And Whiz did a great job with multiple plays out of one formation.

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 Post subject: Re: Is the HaleyBall offense a consequence of....
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
Donnie Brasco wrote:
SteelerChef wrote:
Furthermore.....why do we have such chronic redzone issues ? What would fix that ?


People aren't going to like this answer, but the one constant of shitty RZ performance is Ben. He's just not good down there, whether it's him checking into the wrong plays or execution errors

Why was Ben able to be so good in 2005 & 2007? Was it just his mobility?


2 seasons out of 13. I'd call those statistical outliers more than anything else.

Like Parcells always says: at the end of the day, your record is pretty reflective of who you are. You lose some you should have won. You won some you should have lost.

Ben will go down as a mediocre RZ QB for his career.


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 Post subject: Re: Is the HaleyBall offense a consequence of....
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alancac98 wrote:
Haley doesn't know how to scheme guys open at our own 20 yard line! How the hell could he scheme guys open from inside the 10 yard line with such little field to work with? If you couple this with him either telegraphing what he wants to do (extra lineman and 1 WR or empty backfield and Ben in the gun), you then realize why we can't score in the red zone. Haley is no strategist - that's for sure!


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 Post subject: Re: Is the HaleyBall offense a consequence of....
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Steelafan77 wrote:
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Is the HaleyBall offense a consequence of....


Lackadaisical approach, poor situational football play calling that's apparently endorsed by the FO and head coach. Example: You don't feel like practicing Wednesday's? Awe... el pobrecito..., go ahead and take the day off. Or..., it's 3rd down and 2 go ahead and have Bryant streak down the sideline for a 40 yard bomb that has less chance of completing than to simply Run Bell or Conner the 3 yards and a cloud of dust. /rant


To be fair to Ben he didn't practice Wednesdays because the coaches told him not to.

That changed this week.

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 Post subject: Re: Is the HaleyBall offense a consequence of....
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
Donnie Brasco wrote:
SteelerChef wrote:
Furthermore.....why do we have such chronic redzone issues ? What would fix that ?


People aren't going to like this answer, but the one constant of shitty RZ performance is Ben. He's just not good down there, whether it's him checking into the wrong plays or execution errors

Why was Ben able to be so good in 2005 & 2007? Was it just his mobility?


Influence of Cowher & leftover influence of Cowher.


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 Post subject: Re: Is the HaleyBall offense a consequence of....
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Heath Miller and Hines Ward could get open in tight space.

Randle El a bit too.

And Whiz did a great job with multiple plays out of one formation.

Exactamundo. I'd argue 2007 Ben wasn't as good at prereads as he is now, even.

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