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I think it's pretty obvious that, unless he's hurt, this team needs Deebo on run downs.It obviously wouldn't hurt.


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Harrison is a liability in coverage against good to elite passers. I think its just that simple.


Yeah, we've played a real who's-who of QBs....can't have Harrison on the field against those guys :lol:

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One would think the “best road coach” would have more than 2 playoff wins on the road over the course of 10 seasons.

Bill Belichick road playoffs: 3-5 in 22 years
Mike Tomlin road playoffs: 2-3 in 10 years

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One would think the “best road coach” would have more than 2 playoff wins on the road over the course of 10 seasons.

Bill Belichick road playoffs: 3-5 in 22 years
Mike Tomlin road playoffs: 2-3 in 10 years


I know you're just discussing road playoff records, but I'd like to point out that road playoff records don't carry much weight when you're so good you get home field advantage throughout the playoffs almost all of the time.


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 Post subject: Re: Wondering about James Harrison
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One would think the “best road coach” would have more than 2 playoff wins on the road over the course of 10 seasons.

Bill Belichick road playoffs: 3-5 in 22 years
Mike Tomlin road playoffs: 2-3 in 10 years

...and now you're drudging up old threads to divert attention back to Haley as the "problem coach" of the Pittsburgh Steelers?!

There's just no quit in you, is there B2B?

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 Post subject: Re: Wondering about James Harrison
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One would think the “best road coach” would have more than 2 playoff wins on the road over the course of 10 seasons.

Bill Belichick road playoffs: 3-5 in 22 years
Mike Tomlin road playoffs: 2-3 in 10 years

...and now you're drudging up old threads to divert attention back to Haley as the "problem coach" of the Pittsburgh Steelers?!

There's just no quit in you, is there B2B?

:lol:

Just saw that response and the corresponding stat was right in front of me.

There's nothing wrong with Mike Tomlin's performance. I rather like him as coach of the Steelers, so I guess you're right that I won't quit.

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bradshaw2ben wrote:
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Bill Belichick road playoffs: 3-5 in 22 years
Mike Tomlin road playoffs: 2-3 in 10 years

...and now you're drudging up old threads to divert attention back to Haley as the "problem coach" of the Pittsburgh Steelers?!

There's just no quit in you, is there B2B?

:lol:

Just saw that response and the corresponding stat was right in front of me.

There's nothing wrong with Mike Tomlin's performance. I rather like him as coach of the Steelers, so I guess you're right that I won't quit.

fair enough

then we'll just agree to disagree...
...especially when you sit there and crucify Todd Haley with the same keyboard with which you type such drivel as "There's nothing wrong with Mike Tomlin's performance."

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 Post subject: Re: Wondering about James Harrison
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
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One would think the “best road coach” would have more than 2 playoff wins on the road over the course of 10 seasons.

Bill Belichick road playoffs: 3-5 in 22 years
Mike Tomlin road playoffs: 2-3 in 10 years


That stat indicates BB doesn't need to go on the road very often because his teams usually take care of business in the RS


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 Post subject: Re: Wondering about James Harrison
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Still, he's 2-4 with Brady on the road in postseason.

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 Post subject: Re: Wondering about James Harrison
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I believe there is a plan for James Harrison. I believe it is a bad one. Coaches are morons.

Some of that decision is in the hands of the Steelers worst position coach... which leaves it up for debate.


Peezy?? How would you know he's the Steelers worst position coach??


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I believe there is a plan for James Harrison. I believe it is a bad one. Coaches are morons.

Some of that decision is in the hands of the Steelers worst position coach... which leaves it up for debate.


Peezy?? How would you know he's the Steelers worst position coach??

Because he makes horrendous choices about player usage and his players rarely seem to make progress in development. Also, not one of them ever says anything positive about him as a coach. Finally, he coached a college player that became an excellent pro and apparently didn't want him in PIT, even as a UDFA. Even when the team was starting Jarvis Jones over Deebo.

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 Post subject: Re: Wondering about James Harrison
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I'll say it again...we can reasonably assess the effectiveness of the HC, the OC, the DC. Positional coaches, though? Unless you're at practice, I don't think so? And now you're using whether there are positive public comments?? C'mon, Man!!


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 Post subject: Re: Wondering about James Harrison
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From what I have seen, I would be surprised if the coaches were using anything more analytical than a roulette wheel to decide who plays.

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Count me in as to wondering what Porter contributes to this team other than getting drunk on the south side. Lake and Jerry O former quality steelers that impress me not as coaches. Enough with the former player nostalgia but I'm guessing Hines will be the next former Steeler to be brought back once Richard Mann retires.


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 Post subject: Re: Wondering about James Harrison
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Harrison hurt or what? cant tell me a fresh james coming into rush or stuff the run when the defense been bending wouldn't help...how u like facing watt all game and that big bastard come trotting out fresh as a daisey in 2nd half? let him play..


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 Post subject: Re: Wondering about James Harrison
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I like to see James get some snaps and still not sure how moats getting a hat


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I like to see James get some snaps and still not sure how moats getting a hat


It was report that Debo has a back injury. if it is true, maybe his age has finally caught up with him and he cannot get his back right. Or has he gone down the performance curve so much (like all great players do) that Moats and Chick may have passed him by.

Let's face it , if we did not draft Watt, who has step right in and is having a good year, and we still had Jervis, Debo would have been playing much more. At this point I am afraid that another Steeler "Great" is done. I hope i am wrong and that our "evil scientist" coach is just saving him to unleash on Brady.


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If James Harrison is not better than Anthony Chickillo or Moats, I am a robot from the year 2056.

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If James Harrison is not better than Anthony Chickillo or Moats, I am a robot from the year 2056.

So...have they perfected flying cars and time travel yet?

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If James Harrison is not better than Anthony Chickillo or Moats, I am a robot from the year 2056.
I dunno. I might actually entertain that suggestion as truth. 8-)

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Chickillo aint half bad yall.


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Does anyone have the details on why James Harrison isn't getting playing time?

Have I missed something on the internet explaining or talking about this?

I saw he tweeted social media where he was sitting on his helmet and cracked a joke making a reference about getting prepped for game time reps or something but when he didn't play at all in the Ravens game it got me thinking.



I asked this question 10 weeks ago before the first Ravens game. We still don't have an answer. if he is not active this week I am afraid father time has caught up to him and he is merely just another strength coach on the team masquerading as a player.


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 Post subject: Re: Wondering about James Harrison
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Does anyone have the details on why James Harrison isn't getting playing time?

Have I missed something on the internet explaining or talking about this?

I saw he tweeted social media where he was sitting on his helmet and cracked a joke making a reference about getting prepped for game time reps or something but when he didn't play at all in the Ravens game it got me thinking.



I asked this question 10 weeks ago before the first Ravens game. We still don't have an answer. if he is not active this week I am afraid father time has caught up to him and he is merely just another strength coach on the team masquerading as a player.

Well...

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I saw a video of him lifting (on FB I think) shirtless, and said several times “they got this sitting on the sideline.” Seems like he’d need a few snaps these last cpl weeks before they “unleash” him in a he playoffs. I don’t know, seems like with Shazier and dirty red both out you’d have to think #92 May see the field Sunday night. Or, maybe not at all. (<<I can’t and don’t want to believe that)


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This should be the week he becomes re acquainted with Mr Flacco


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Well, 4 weeks left (and the last one shouldn't matter)....then 3 playoff games....Damn near half a season, so the time for "saving" is over and he needs to get in playing shape. Would explain why he wasn't dressing early in the year when TJ was out.

It's simply possible that TJ performed much better and fast than expected. I don't know if there's been any experimentation with Harrison on the other side, but you figure if Harrison took 12-15 snaps for TJ then they both can go absolutely full tilt on every play.

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The Steelers don't intend to use Harrison unless they have to. This is effectively Chickillo's first year seeing major time on the field, and of course, Watt being a rookie who is playing well can only get better with more snaps. I don't buy for a moment that Father Time has rendered him useless. Spots on the 53 man roster are too valuable. Harrison's weakness is coverage. He can still play the run better than any OLB on the roster. He scan still rush the QB better. The Steelers simply want their young players to emerge because at Harrison's age, they know they can depend on him for only a limited time. Harrison would have been a better match up than Watt for some of the run heavy teams the Steelers have played recently. The fact is that Jarvis Jones lost games for the Steelers. Watt hasn't. He hasn't been perfect, but he hasn't been the sole reason the Steelers under performed or lost.

I hope to see #92 play before this run is over. He's my favorite Steeler of all time - and I am a rabid Franco, Stallworth, Lipps, Lloyd fan.

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The Steelers don't intend to use Harrison unless they have to. This is effectively Chickillo's first year seeing major time on the field, and of course, Watt being a rookie who is playing well can only get better with more snaps. I don't buy for a moment that Father Time has rendered him useless. Spots on the 53 man roster are too valuable. Harrison's weakness is coverage. He can still play the run better than any OLB on the roster. He scan still rush the QB better. The Steelers simply want their young players to emerge because at Harrison's age, they know they can depend on him for only a limited time. Harrison would have been a better match up than Watt for some of the run heavy teams the Steelers have played recently. The fact is that Jarvis Jones lost games for the Steelers. Watt hasn't. He hasn't been perfect, but he hasn't been the sole reason the Steelers under performed or lost.

I hope to see #92 play before this run is over. He's my favorite Steeler of all time - and I am a rabid Franco, Stallworth, Lipps, Lloyd fan.

Harrison not dressing has nothing to do with Watt He’s competing with Chickillo & Moats, both of whom play STs. Personally, I’d love to have him in stunt rusher role but they are more worried about STs.

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so has there been a mention of unleashing the beast Harrison now by the coaching staff or press? why is he taking a roster spot if he cant or is not allowed to play? very strange situation with Harrison..cant imagine him not being a spark plug on defense and big on run stopping. which the steelers need badly.


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he going play this week and then back to the bench vs NE and see time the last 2 games. it time to get 92 playoff ready.


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stealin wrote:
SteelThrillsseeker wrote:
Does anyone have the details on why James Harrison isn't getting playing time?

Have I missed something on the internet explaining or talking about this?

I saw he tweeted social media where he was sitting on his helmet and cracked a joke making a reference about getting prepped for game time reps or something but when he didn't play at all in the Ravens game it got me thinking.



I asked this question 10 weeks ago before the first Ravens game. We still don't have an answer. if he is not active this week I am afraid father time has caught up to him and he is merely just another strength coach on the team masquerading as a player.

Ask Alex Smith and the Chiefs about father time. He won that game for us down the stretch and that was only a few months ago. I am not buying this. They are the most stubborn organization in the NFL.


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Wonder if they are just being nice to James
Maybe his body isn't up to a full season
One last year paycheck
And playnhum here and there strategically
I know he works out like crazy but doesn't mean there isn't no som thing wrong that repeated hitting wouldn't hurt ?


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With so many injuries to the LBs, I think this week forces the Steelers to use James. I hope he plays well, but i am afraid he will be a shadow of his former great self.


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With so many injuries to the LBs, I think this week forces the Steelers to use James. I hope he plays well, but i am afraid he will be a shadow of his former great self.


I have a feeling he will be a fucking wrecking ball


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With so many injuries to the LBs, I think this week forces the Steelers to use James. I hope he plays well, but i am afraid he will be a shadow of his former great self.


I have a feeling he will be a fucking wrecking ball

Yeah-- he was 3rd in the NFL last year in pressures per rush. I don't think he's completely washed up.

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With so many injuries to the LBs, I think this week forces the Steelers to use James. I hope he plays well, but i am afraid he will be a shadow of his former great self.


I have a feeling he will be a fucking wrecking ball

Yeah-- he was 3rd in the NFL last year in pressures per rush. I don't think he's completely washed up.


and he'll be playing with a MASSIVE CHIP on his shoulder -- highly motivated


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and he'll be playing with a MASSIVE CHIP on his shoulder -- highly motivated

Hopefully Harrison is not forced into coverage by design too much. I want to see Deebo annihilate the blocking and nail the QB into the ground like a tent stake.


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I think it's safe to say we're all disappointed in this as well.


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His one job attack the passer Can't wait to see him tomorrow


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Isn't this the second year of a two year contract?

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Gotta wonder what kind of conversation (if any) Harrison has had with Tomlin concerning his role. They may have wanted to keep Hariison fresh for the playoff, but what about wearing out TJ Watt? The young guys aren't used to such a long season and to have him play as many snaps as he is, I could see him wearing down and being ineffective come playoff time. Harrison doesn't sound happy, at all! Curious as to why James hasn't asked for a trade or just hung the cleats up, saying fuck it! I do get thefact to throw the young guys into the fire to get them to grow up, but you can't also ignore James Harrison - he could have been used all along the line. I would be scared as shit if I were a QB and saw him 5 yards off the line of scrimmage looking as if he was going to run right over my center on his way to me. JM 2cents.


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If I know one thing about Mike Tomlin, it’s that he looks very unfavorably on a player who grouses to the press about his playing time.

I don’t know whether Harrison should be playing more, but he needs to shut up about it.

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Glad to see that Debo got a dozen or so snaps last night. He did not appear to do much though. Maybe he knocked some rust off.

Hopefully he improves some every week. He should have been playing 5-10 snaps every game that he was healthy.


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he should be taking some Bud snaps


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