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Author:  SteelerChef [ Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:03 pm ]
Post subject:  happy w/ win..Tomlin Haley you gotta do much fucking better

Passes behind the LOS...passes far far short of a 1st...SOMETIMES...in CERTAIN SITUATIONS...occasionally can work out....they are NOT a hallmark of a great offense...and without a doubt arent the strong point of this team....

Small ball offensive playcalling and approach leads to small ball scoring AT BEST....its well past 1963.....
40pts+ every game has to be the goal....

You will beat average and worse teams and lose to better teams....heres a hint...EVERY TEAM in the AFCG and SB is a better team...

Author:  GreekSteel [ Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:08 pm ]
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its more Tomlin than haley at this point for me...Tomlin has seen this movie over and over, as have we the fans...and all he does is enable the amateur golfer. If he doesn't like or agree with whats happening, change the plan or replace the OC.

Author:  SteelKnife [ Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:09 pm ]
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When the team actually executes the plays called, we can better apportion fault.

Offensive execution from everyone but Brown was putrid.

Author:  Kodiak [ Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:10 pm ]
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It's not going to change....Tomlin and Haley are who they are at this point. The only wildcard is a HOFer near retirement saying "fuck it" and going rogue.

Author:  BarryFoster [ Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:10 pm ]
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How many empty sets did we employ today?

Can we least have the appearance we may run?

Fucked up

Author:  SteelKnife [ Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:11 pm ]
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Kodiak wrote:
It's not going to change....Tomlin and Haley are who they are at this point. The only wildcard is a HOFer near retirement saying "fuck it" and going rogue.


I think his passes were going rogue for him.

Author:  Steelafan77 [ Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:14 pm ]
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SteelKnife wrote:
When the team actually executes the plays called, we can better apportion fault.

Offensive execution from everyone but Brown was putrid.

Outlaw was on the side of good execution today as was Conner. Conner wasn't given much room to run today with a porous OLine. Bryant was stuck in 2nd gear today. I did see him open several times where Ben either chose not to pass him the ball or didn't see him. I think we see different Bryant and Bell in Heinz Field next Sunday. I really hope the OLine picks up their step too. Reduce the penalties with better execution.

Author:  SteelerChef [ Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:15 pm ]
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GreekSteel wrote:
its more Tomlin than haley at this point for me...Tomlin has seen this movie over and over, as have we the fans...and all he does is enable the amateur golfer. If he doesn't like or agree with whats happening, change the plan or replace the OC.


Kinda where im at.

No way do I believe Tomlin has final say on OC DC player personnel or draft picks at this point. I gotta think he knows thats a less than optimal way to run a team but at the same time he kinda thinks hes up to the challenge of steering the Steelers in the right direction regardless

Author:  it's still yggy [ Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:18 pm ]
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I'd like to believe Haley and tomlin saw coming in the offense was going to need some time to sync.

But I also think the browns flat out won in their front 7. Makes me wish Gregg Williams had a couple years to work over our system. They contained bell rushed Ben and shut down everyone besides AB and the outlaw I suppose.

Offense has some work but they'll get there.

Author:  SteelerChef [ Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:22 pm ]
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SteelKnife wrote:
When the team actually executes the plays called, we can better apportion fault.

Offensive execution from everyone but Brown was putrid.


I disagree....playing small ball against one of the 10 worst teams in the nfl....with a rookie qb....up 7 off a punt block....on the road....early in the game

A decidedly dumbfuck approach

That game shouldve been over by the half....it was in doubt til the very end...

Author:  Kodiak [ Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:25 pm ]
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SteelerChef wrote:
I disagree....playing small ball against one of the 10 worst teams in the nfl....with a rookie qb....up 7 off a punt block....on the road....early in the game

A decidedly dumbfuck approach

That game shouldve been over by the half....it was in doubt til the very end...



Yep. But that's how Tomlin rolls. They play field position against bad teams, especially on the road, and try not to beat themselves. You'd think Tomlin would look at history and realize that's probably not the best approach....but he's an idiot.

Author:  steelmann58 [ Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:27 pm ]
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I did not like his calls on the wr screen he should have tried with slants more today.

Author:  SteelerChef [ Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:32 pm ]
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Steelafan77 wrote:
SteelKnife wrote:
When the team actually executes the plays called, we can better apportion fault.

Offensive execution from everyone but Brown was putrid.

Outlaw was on the side of good execution today as was Conner. Conner wasn't given much room to run today with a porous OLine. Bryant was stuck in 2nd gear today. I did see him open several times where Ben either chose not to pass him the ball or didn't see him. I think we see different Bryant and Bell in Heinz Field next Sunday. I really hope the OLine picks up their step too. Reduce the penalties with better execution.


I though JJ and Connor both largely sucked.....JJ is just a horrible run blocker.....lazy soft stupid untalented.??...its hard for me me to be specific...but damn does he get his ass shoved around....caught 2 TDs and im afraid those plays will save his ass from being benched at least til the bye unfortunately....

Connor......i couldve understood a sympathy draft in the 7th for a cancer patient.....i kinda can see the 53rd 52nd ST spot for him... maybe....hes slow and without power or strength for the nfl at RB......no way should he see the field before Watson or Bellvor the 5th WR for that matter....Rosie Nix is a better football player....

BUT the self righteous Steelers GOTTA prove their point.....hammer that square peg for all eternity

Author:  Donnie Brasco [ Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:42 pm ]
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Did we complete 1 successful dig route (pass between the hashes and behind the lbers)? This offense for whatever reason doesn't threaten the whole deep middle. I just don't fuckin get it

Author:  Smashmouth21 [ Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:43 pm ]
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SteelerChef wrote:
Steelafan77 wrote:
SteelKnife wrote:
When the team actually executes the plays called, we can better apportion fault.

Offensive execution from everyone but Brown was putrid.

Outlaw was on the side of good execution today as was Conner. Conner wasn't given much room to run today with a porous OLine. Bryant was stuck in 2nd gear today. I did see him open several times where Ben either chose not to pass him the ball or didn't see him. I think we see different Bryant and Bell in Heinz Field next Sunday. I really hope the OLine picks up their step too. Reduce the penalties with better execution.


I though JJ and Connor both largely sucked.....JJ is just a horrible run blocker.....lazy soft stupid untalented.??...its hard for me me to be specific...but damn does he get his ass shoved around....caught 2 TDs and im afraid those plays will save his ass from being benched at least til the bye unfortunately....

Connor......i couldve understood a sympathy draft in the 7th for a cancer patient.....i kinda can see the 53rd 52nd ST spot for him... maybe....hes slow and without power or strength for the nfl at RB......no way should he see the field before Watson or Bellvor the 5th WR for that matter....Rosie Nix is a better football player....

BUT the self righteous Steelers GOTTA prove their point.....hammer that square peg for all eternity

I get this critique but the Steelers did not run the ball well at all today so grain of salt. What I can say for sure is retire the bubble screen to Bryant. Dude has no wiggle and is an alien 15+ yards from scrimmage only. Better knock off that rust soon.

Author:  SteelerChef [ Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:43 pm ]
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Donnie Brasco wrote:
Did we complete 1 successful dig route (pass between the hashes and behind the lbers)? This offense for whatever reason doesn't threaten the whole deep middle. I just don't fuckin get it

Author:  Havoc [ Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:51 pm ]
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The horizontal passing in the 1st quarter was pitiful.

Author:  Scunge [ Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:52 pm ]
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When I saw Hunter on the inactive list it made me annoyed. Having Hunter out there today, to have two size/speed freaks like Bryant and Hunter, might have made a difference. They were trying to stymie Ben going deep to Bryant but if Ben also had Hunter to throw to as well? Well, at least we had Darrius Hayward-Bey active.

I saw him make a tackle on a punt return, after Peppers ran for 20 yards. Bey also had a penalty for blocking on a punt return of ours and that backed us up near our end zone. Yeah, DHB, the special teams God that is our best special teams player!!! :roll:

Again, Brown got his catches and yards but the offense scored just 21 points, and really, to be totally accurate this offense only scored 14 points, because the special teams scored the first TD.

This offense doesn't need Brown to catch 150 passes this year, it NEEDS Bryant to catch 65-70, it NEEDS Vance McDonald to be that vertical TE and have 55 catches.

Just one game, but it looks like the same old story on offense, feed Brown and once Bell shakes the rust off, feed Bell and ignore the other options on offense. Ironic though that Jesse James scored the 2 TDs for this offense today. For as much as Bell and Brown are fed the ball in this offense, where is their TD production?

Author:  Zeke5123 [ Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:54 pm ]
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SteelKnife wrote:
When the team actually executes the plays called, we can better apportion fault.

Offensive execution from everyone but Brown was putrid.


This has always been a red herring. Coaches job aren't to run a scheme that works if everyone perfectly executes; its to put the players in position to most likely be able to execute. Steelers coaches failed to do this today.

Author:  Havoc [ Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:56 pm ]
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Browns offense 18
Steelers offense 14

Author:  Smashmouth21 [ Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:56 pm ]
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Havoc wrote:
Browns offense 18
Steelers offense 14

This. And FWIW Steelers have an average D/ST.

Author:  tunch [ Sun Sep 10, 2017 6:48 pm ]
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Reminder: Todd Haley is a literal cuckold. The man is a defective. Winning is not in his nature.

Author:  bradshaw2ben [ Sun Sep 10, 2017 6:51 pm ]
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it's still yggy wrote:
I'd like to believe Haley and tomlin saw coming in the offense was going to need some time to sync.

But I also think the browns flat out won in their front 7. Makes me wish Gregg Williams had a couple years to work over our system. They contained bell rushed Ben and shut down everyone besides AB and the outlaw I suppose.

Offense has some work but they'll get there.

The Browns front 7 on D is the strength of their team. They are pretty good.

Author:  bradshaw2ben [ Sun Sep 10, 2017 6:54 pm ]
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Donnie Brasco wrote:
Did we complete 1 successful dig route (pass between the hashes and behind the lbers)? This offense for whatever reason doesn't threaten the whole deep middle. I just don't fuckin get it

They apparently practice it in camp but rarely if ever use it in games. The defense called today basically is an answer to Haley's U-shaped offense: everything near the line of scrimmage and horizontal, with occasional deep ball on quick sideline. They took away what steelers under Haley do 90% of the time and we refused to adjust. Crossing patterns. Dig routes. Intermiediate curls.

Author:  it's still yggy [ Sun Sep 10, 2017 6:58 pm ]
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
it's still yggy wrote:
I'd like to believe Haley and tomlin saw coming in the offense was going to need some time to sync.

But I also think the browns flat out won in their front 7. Makes me wish Gregg Williams had a couple years to work over our system. They contained bell rushed Ben and shut down everyone besides AB and the outlaw I suppose.

Offense has some work but they'll get there.

The Browns front 7 on D is the strength of their team. They are pretty good.


Yeah they seem to accomplish what the steelers set out to usually do that is pressure the O backfield but they don't leave gaping holes in the secondary like we usually have.

Wasn't so much that they sacked Ben but they made him throw early. Consistently. And they just lost their #1 piece in their backfield.

If I'm Gregg Williams I'm popping a few beers tonight. I won that game.

Now it's true steelers O didn't give a stiff challenge

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