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 Post subject: Possible roster
PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 6:02 pm 
8 OL Pouncey Foster DD Hubbard Finney V Gilbert Hawkins
3 QB Ben Dobbs Jones
4 RB Bell Conner Davis Nix
6 WR AB Bryant JuJu Hunter DHB Rogers
4 TE JJ X Green DJ
Offense = 25

6 DL Cam Hargraves Tuitt McC LT Alualu
5 ILB Shazier VW Red Fort
5 OLB Harrison Dupree Moats Watt Adams
2 SS Davis Dangerfield
2 FS Mitchell Golden
6 CB Gay Burns Cockrell Sutton Sensabaugh Allen
Defense = 25

3 ST Boswell Berry (Warren Holba 1 spot)

51 52 and 53
On the bubble WR Ayers Coates Rogers ILB Fort Kelsey Johnson OLB Adams Blount Chickillo Anderson CB Allen Dixon Golson



Kelsey Dixon Ayers to the PS


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 Post subject: Re: Possible roster
PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 6:09 pm 
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Kniles Davis?

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 Post subject: Re: Possible roster
PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 6:10 pm 
Maybe the Steelers are more comfortable at CB than I thought at draft time. Even without Sutton and Allen thats not a bad group

Additionally, if they see Sutton as a PR 1st it makes more sense imo


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 Post subject: Re: Possible roster
PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 6:15 pm 
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Kniles Davis?

Please no Frenchman


I think Davis is close to a lock if he has more than a horrible camp and isnt a lockerroom nuisance

Fitz is the 5th RB so if they keep 6 CBs or 1 more elsewhere hes in trouble. He has made nfl rosters has ST experience and isnt the worst RB in the nfl. He is by no means a lock


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 Post subject: Re: Possible roster
PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 7:10 pm 
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Hunter is Bryant insurance. Both of those guys aren't going to be on the 53 IMO.

I also think DHB is gone. They'll give Coates one more year to show out and Rogers and Ayers have showed too much to let go. Unless they work out a trade, which I wouldn't even entertain until we're close to the opener and Bryant hasn't been kicked out of the league yet. AB, Bryant, JuJu, Rogers, Coates, Ayers.

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 Post subject: Re: Possible roster
PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 7:34 pm 
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I agree, DHB may be asked to move on. Look at the teams roster. Old guys getting replaced by young guys. This team is quickly getting much younger.

Watt = Harrison 38
JuJu = DHB (and Bryant being a bonehead) 30
Sutton = Gay 32
Conner = DWill 34
Dobbs = Ben 35
Allen = Gay (and Golson not staying healthy) 32
Colba = Warren 35
Adams = Moats (Jervis bust) 29

Now, will the PS replace TE David Johnson (29) with TE Gary Barnidge (31). With L. Greens health issues, I think it would be a smart insurance move.

Next year's draft (age wise only)
S - Mike Mitchell (30)
OG - Ramon Foster (32)
DE - Tyson Alualu (30)
OT - Marcus Gilbert (30)


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 Post subject: Re: Possible roster
PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 7:37 pm 
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Hunter is Bryant insurance. Both of those guys aren't going to be on the 53 IMO.

I also think DHB is gone. They'll give Coates one more year to show out and Rogers and Ayers have showed too much to let go. Unless they work out a trade, which I wouldn't even entertain until we're close to the opener and Bryant hasn't been kicked out of the league yet. AB, Bryant, JuJu, Rogers, Coates, Ayers.


I think Hunter is a lock. B2B pointed out the Steelers dont cut a FA theysign in the offseason


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 Post subject: Re: Possible roster
PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 7:43 pm 
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QB
Joshua Dobbs
Landry Jones
Ben Roethlisberger

TE
Xavier Grimble
Jesse James
David Johnson

RB
Le'Veon Bell
James Conner
Knile Davis
Rosie Nix

WR
Antonio Brown
Martavis Bryant
Sammie Coates
Justin Hunter
Eli Rogers
JuJu Smith-Schuster

OLine
David DeCastro
BJ Finney
Ramon Foster
Marcus Gilbert
Jerald Hawkins
Chris Hubbard
Maurkice Pouncey
Alejandro Villanueva

DLine
Tyson Alualu
Javon Hargrave
Cam Heyward
Johnny Maxey
Stephon Tuitt
LT Walton

LB
Keion Adams
Anthony Chickillo
Bud Dupree
Matt Galambos
James Harrison
Tyler Matakevich
Arthur Moats
Ryan Shazier
TJ Watt
Vince Williams

DB
Brian Allen
Artie Burns
Ross Cockrell
Sean Davis
Robert Golden
Senquez Golson
Mike Mitchell
Coty Sensabaugh
Daimion Stafford
Cam Sutton

Specialist
Jordan Berry
Chris Boswell
Colin Holba

Practice Squad
DB Jacob Hagen
DE Francis Kallon
ILB Keith Kelsey
OG Ethan Cooper
OLB Farrington Huguenin
OT Brian Mihalik
TE Phazahn Odom
TE Scott Orndoff
WR Canaan Severin
RB Terrell Watson


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 Post subject: Re: Possible roster
PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 7:53 pm 
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Steelafan77 wrote:
QB
Ben Roethlisberger
Landry Jones
Joshua Dobbs

TE
LaDarius Green
Jesse James
Xavier Grimble

RB
Le'Veon Bell
Knile Davis
James Conner
Rosie Nix

WR
Antonio Brown
Martavis Bryant
JuJu Smith-Schuster
Eli Rogers
Sammie Coates
Justin Hunter

OLine
Alejandro Villanueva
Ramon Foster
Maurkice Pouncey
David DeCastro
Marcus Gilbert
Jerald Hawkins
Chris Hubbard
BJ Finney

DLine
Cam Heyward
Stephon Tuitt
Javon Hargrave
Tyson Alualu
LT Walton
Daniel McCullers

LB
James Harrison
Bud Dupree
TJ Watt
Anthony Chickillo
Arthur Moats
Ryan Shazier
Vince Williams
Tyler Matakevich
Steven Johnson
LJ Fort

DB
Artie Burns
Ross Cockrell
Coty Sensabaugh
William Gay
Sean Davis
Mike Mitchell
Cam Sutton
Robert Golden
Brian Allen

Specialist
Jordan Berry
Chris Boswell
Greg Warren
Colin Holba

Practice Squad
Scott Orndoff
Gus Johnson
Keion Adams
Keith Kelsey
Unknown DB
Unknown WR
Brian Mihalik
Unknown OLine
Unknown DLine
Unknown DLine


I'd rather have Golson or Dixon rather than Gay. His time is past and we need to be younger. He got his ass burnt early and often against crossing routes from the slot. Old and slow is he now!


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 Post subject: Re: Possible roster
PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 7:55 pm 
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Rest assured that Greg Warren and Colin Holba won't both be on the 53. Warren will mentor Colba until late August and retire/be cut. That spot goes to Golson imo.


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 Post subject: Re: Possible roster
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DP39 wrote:
I agree, DHB may be asked to move on. Look at the teams roster. Old guys getting replaced by young guys. This team is quickly getting much younger.

Watt = Harrison 38
JuJu = DHB (and Bryant being a bonehead) 30
Sutton = Gay 32
Conner = DWill 34
Dobbs = Ben 35
Allen = Gay (and Golson not staying healthy) 32
Colba = Warren 35
Adams = Moats (Jervis bust) 29

Now, will the PS replace TE David Johnson (29) with TE Gary Barnidge (31). With L. Greens health issues, I think it would be a smart insurance move.

Next year's draft (age wise only)
S - Mike Mitchell (30) Draft
OG - Ramon Foster (32) You already have BJ Finney on the roster
DE - Tyson Alualu (30) Draft, unless Walton develops more or they develop Kallon
OT - Marcus Gilbert (30) You already have Jerald Hawkins on the roster


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 Post subject: Re: Possible roster
PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 7:58 pm 
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Steelafan77 wrote:
DP39 wrote:
I agree, DHB may be asked to move on. Look at the teams roster. Old guys getting replaced by young guys. This team is quickly getting much younger.

Watt = Harrison 38
JuJu = DHB (and Bryant being a bonehead) 30
Sutton = Gay 32
Conner = DWill 34
Dobbs = Ben 35
Allen = Gay (and Golson not staying healthy) 32
Colba = Warren 35
Adams = Moats (Jervis bust) 29

Now, will the PS replace TE David Johnson (29) with TE Gary Barnidge (31). With L. Greens health issues, I think it would be a smart insurance move.

Next year's draft (age wise only)
S - Mike Mitchell (30) Draft
OG - Ramon Foster (32) You already have BJ Finney on the roster
DE - Tyson Alualu (30) Draft, unless Walton develops more or they develop Kallon
OT - Marcus Gilbert (30) You already have Jerald Hawkins on the roster


That's why I said (age wise only). They will still draft those positions to upgrade the player in waiting or to have his backup in house.


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 Post subject: Re: Possible roster
PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 8:03 pm 
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Yes Sir 39. I don't feel like we can count on Golson being there to secure a roster spot. Let alone see the field other than from his recliner on Sundays. Perhaps Dixon makes the cut. I was hoping that someone else would connect the dots by stating Warren will retire and hand the baton off to Holba. I agree. Also it fits my Very Early roster prediction. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Possible roster
PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 8:45 pm 
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I think Ayers is going to make himself VERY, VERY difficult to cut.

That kid has something special about him.

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 Post subject: Re: Possible roster
PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 9:06 pm 
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I think Ayers is going to make himself VERY, VERY difficult to cut.

That kid has something special about him.


I should probably add him to the bubble group possibilities


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 Post subject: Re: Possible roster
PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 9:22 pm 
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Hunter is Bryant insurance. Both of those guys aren't going to be on the 53 IMO.

I also think DHB is gone. They'll give Coates one more year to show out and Rogers and Ayers have showed too much to let go. Unless they work out a trade, which I wouldn't even entertain until we're close to the opener and Bryant hasn't been kicked out of the league yet. AB, Bryant, JuJu, Rogers, Coates, Ayers.

AVATAR BET!!!!!

Barring a trade of Bryant, a new suspension, or a injury... both will be on the roster. Close to a mortal lock.

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 Post subject: Re: Possible roster
PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 2:34 pm 
Scratch Shabazz


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 Post subject: Re: Possible roster
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What in the hell does Nix do to deserve a roster spot?


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 Post subject: Re: Possible roster
PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 11:54 pm 
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What in the hell does Nix do to deserve a roster spot?


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 Post subject: Re: Possible roster
PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2017 7:38 am 
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3 QB Ben Dobbs Jones

7 RB Bell Conner Davis Nix

13 WR Brown Bryant Juju Rogers DHB Coates
We might have to think about profiles above all else. To me we have two tall possession guys in Juju and Hamilton and it seems clear to me that with Juju's addition, Hamilton is gone. Hunter is a Bryant clone with 6'4'' and 4'4 speed, I think he is more an insurance than anything. DHB is a special team ace.
Then it become difficult between Coates and Ayers. I root hard for Ayers because I think he can turn into something. However, he can still be on our PS, and Coates was more used than him in Playoffs... I hope Coates to be gone in that list anyway.

16 TE Green James Grimble
A position where DJ could still make it if they decide to keep less defensive players.

24 OL Villanueva Hawkins Foster Finney Pouncey DeCastro Gilbert Hawkins

30 DL Heyward Alualu Hargrave McCullers Tuitt Walton

35 OLB Dupree Deebo Watt Moats Chickillo
Adams could make it, but if we take last two years, Chickillo wasn't in the 53 at first even after a very good preseason, and last year Feeney wasn't either. Good PS addition anyway.

40 ILB Shazier Williams Red Fort Johnson
Red becomes a lock after Timmons is gone. One between Fort and Johnson may be in danger, but I think they will stick with 5 ILB again.

46 CB Burns Cockrell Sutton Gay Sensabaugh Golson
No Allen for the same reason that Keion Adams. Doran Grant was in the PS while he was a fourth rounder two years ago. I am more optimistic than for Adams, but we'll need to find someone to cut in the DB group. I guess they like Sensabaugh's versatility, and they can't cut Golson if he's healthy without seeing him at least once on the field. Gay is still too valuable for now.

50 S Davis Mitchell Golden Dangerfield

53 ST Holba Berry Boswell


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 Post subject: Re: Possible roster
PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2017 9:11 am 
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I like to look at the roster this time of year and imagine what happens if a player at every position group gets injured. O Line is in really good shape with starters and backups. WR has a ton of depth now, it will be hard just to make the 53 for those guys. D line is now 6 strong and deep. CB group lacks stars, but they have solid depth. OLB seems to be fairly deep. TE and QB can get by for a week or two without the starter, but lack a really good #2 option.

The biggest area for concern to me is safety. What the hell happens if Sean Davis gets a season ending injury? The two guys most likely to make the roster as backups are not exactly starting quality. They are closer to practice squad players than starters. ILB scares me a bit too with Shazier's injury history. Matakavich seems solid, but unproven and not exactly a high end athlete. There is little after him.

Overal the roster is in pretty good shape depth wise.


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 Post subject: Re: Possible roster
PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2017 9:45 am 
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I like to look at the roster this time of year and imagine what happens if a player at every position group gets injured. O Line is in really good shape with starters and backups. WR has a ton of depth now, it will be hard just to make the 53 for those guys. D line is now 6 strong and deep. CB group lacks stars, but they have solid depth. OLB seems to be fairly deep. TE and QB can get by for a week or two without the starter, but lack a really good #2 option.

The biggest area for concern to me is safety. What the hell happens if Sean Davis gets a season ending injury? The two guys most likely to make the roster as backups are not exactly starting quality. They are closer to practice squad players than starters. ILB scares me a bit too with Shazier's injury history. Matakavich seems solid, but unproven and not exactly a high end athlete. There is little after him.

Overal the roster is in pretty good shape depth wise.


Concur, if and it is a big if Green can somehow navigate the season TE will look a damn sight better. ILB worries me a bunch. The thought of VW in any type of coverage situation is harrowing. Safety also, is there any chance Gay finally makes move many have surmised in previous years?


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 Post subject: Re: Possible roster
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I wish Shazier could get a frame transplant so we could worry less about him morphing into the TubMonster at some point in the season.

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 Post subject: Re: Possible roster
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In this d the preferred red zone and short yardage pass D can morph into a safety playing man coverage-- all it takes is an overload to the other side. I barely trust Davis, and don't trust any of the other three in that situation-- why am I going to trust Gay?

I like Jacob Hagen but, as Perch said-- no reason yet to think he's ready to start. We're still about 3 safeties short.

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 Post subject: Re: Possible roster
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In this d the preferred red zone and short yardage pass D can morph into a safety playing man coverage-- all it takes is an overload to the other side. I barely trust Davis, and don't trust any of the other three in that situation-- why am I going to trust Gay?

I like Jacob Hagen but, as Perch said-- no reason yet to think he's ready to start. We're still about 3 safeties short.

Do they try to make Allen some type of rangy safety. Does he have that ability?

Perch nailed it though, S, ILB and TE are the most precarious positions on the roster. Hopefully, at least, they know something about Green that we don't. I see a few players that could be cut around the league that may improve our depth some in those areas also...Barnidge anyone?


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