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 Post subject: Re: Cam Sutton
PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 9:06 am 
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If he turns into Willie Gay, then that's a good pick at that spot.


Punt Returner "Willy Gay"??

Yes please, that would be a great pick


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 Post subject: Re: Cam Sutton
PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 9:22 am 
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bradshaw2ben wrote:


Nice web site B.
He will make up for the short arms with his 8 1/4" hands.....

Only kidding.

I was pulling for them to draft Raul as well.
But our guys know these two players 1,000 time better than I do.

He is our guy and can't wait to see how he performs.

Good luck Cam.

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 Post subject: Re: Cam Sutton
PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 9:54 am 
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R S wrote:
If he turns into Willie Gay, then that's a good pick at that spot.


Punt Returner "Willy Gay"??

Yes please, that would be a great pick


If he turns into Gay he is a home run at this spot. Gay's production and longevity is above average for a 1st rounder (ave 1st is 4 year starter) I don't think folks realize what a great pick he was.


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 Post subject: Re: Cam Sutton
PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 11:46 am 
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
R S wrote:
If he turns into Willie Gay, then that's a good pick at that spot.

if it were 2008, yeah

I've been saying Willie Gay is the comp-- I expected him to go to Tennessee, until I heard DLB said he thinks they need to have more man 2 man coverages because of how the NFL is evolving.

I think brick has the right idea-- off man might be right for him-- nickel safety could be the plan.


Off man works so well vs NE :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Cam Sutton
PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 11:57 am 
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jebrick wrote:
bradshaw2ben wrote:
R S wrote:
If he turns into Willie Gay, then that's a good pick at that spot.

if it were 2008, yeah

I've been saying Willie Gay is the comp-- I expected him to go to Tennessee, until I heard DLB said he thinks they need to have more man 2 man coverages because of how the NFL is evolving.

I think brick has the right idea-- off man might be right for him-- nickel safety could be the plan.


Off man works so well vs NE :roll:


Steeler's FO has been harping on more press all off season. It started in post season presser, mentioned during draft process and stated as one of primary goals to change outcomes for upcoming season. Many folks get caught up in pass rush = way to defeat Pats. It is only a piece of solution the biggest push towards that solution is forcing Brady to hold the ball long enough to get to him. Denver's CBs did exactly that.


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 Post subject: Re: Cam Sutton
PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 12:27 pm 
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As I said, I think Willie Gay was a terrific pick and good player. He has limitations, though. I guess I'm saying i think Sutton will ultimately be a role player-- which is not bad in a vacuum-- but I'm not sure he's good enough to get a lot of snaps on D in what potentially will be a good group of CBs. If Gay is cut/retires... if Golson can't play at all and is cut/retires... Sutton probably backs up Sensabaugh. If neither of those things happens, maybe they give him and Allen a chance to win the #2 CB job. Other than PRs, where he has a pretty fair chance of winning the job, don't see him getting a lot of PT in 2017, at least. See if you can figure out who will win the top 3 CB jobs and who will be cut:

1... 5114, 203, 32.50 arm, 9.00 hand, 4.41 40yd, 1.56 10yd, 17 reps, 34.0 VJ, 120" BJ, 4.27 SS, 7.15 3c
2... 6000, 191, 29.88 arm, 9.00 hand, 4.44 40yd, 1.50 10yd, 12 reps, 39.0 VJ, 125" BJ, 4.27 SS, 6.88 3c
3... 6007, 200, 32.75 arm, 9.25 hand, 4.63 40yd, 1.59 10yd, 12 reps, 35.0 VJ, 125" BJ, 4.59 SS, 7.16 3c
4... 6027, 215, 34.00 arm, 10.0 hand, 4.48 40yd, 1.51 10yd, 15 reps, 38 VJ, 127" BJ, 4.18 SS, 6.64 3c
5... 5112, 189, 31.00 arm, 9.00 hand, 4.42 40yd, 1.60 10yd, 15 reps, 37.0 VJ, 122" BJ, 4.06 SS, 6.60 3c
6... 5117, 193, 33.25 arm, 9.50 hand, 4.46 40yd, 1.56 10yd, 07 reps, 33.0 VJ, 124" BJ, 4.33 SS, 6.96 3c
7... 5085, 176, 29.75 arm, 9.38 hand, 4.46 40yd, 1.54 10yd, 15 reps, 33.5 VJ, 120" BJ, 4.20 SS, 6.81 3c
8... 5110, 188, 30.00 arm, 8.25 hand, 4.52 40yd, 1.57 10yd, 11 reps, 34.0 VJ, 120" BJ, 4.23 SS, 6.81 3c
9... 5101, 187, 31.00 arm, 9.50 hand, 4.48 40yd, 1.51 10yd, 16 reps, 38.5 VJ, 118" BJ, 4.15 SS, 6.89 3c
10. 5101, 183, 30.75 arm, 9.13 hand, 4.34 40yd, 1.56 10yd, 17 reps, 35.0 VJ, 126" BJ, 3.97 SS, 6.50 3c

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 Post subject: Re: Cam Sutton
PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 10:03 pm 
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https://www.fanragsports.com/nfl/steelers/third-rounder-cameron-sutton-could-make-early-impact-with-steelers/

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Third-rounder Cameron Sutton could make early impact with Steelers
John Perrotto
By John Perrotto
Posted on May 7, 2017


PITTSBURGH — With no openings in the starting lineup of a team that won the AFC North and reached the AFC championship game last season, the Pittsburgh Steelers weren’t looking for players in the NFL draft who needed to make an immediate impact.

Outside linebacker T.J. Watt and wide receiver JuJu Smith-Schuster, the Steelers’ first two picks, will likely have what amounts to redshirt seasons in 2017, seeing only spot duty unless the team is hit hard by injuries.

The draftee with the most realistic shot at consistent playing time — and perhaps even a spot in the starting lineup when the Steelers open the season Sept. 10 against the Browns at Cleveland — is cornerback Cameron Sutton, the first of two third-round picks.

William Gay, the 32-year-old slot corner, began to show his age late last season. The New England Patriots picked on him often during their victory over the Steelers in the AFC championship game.

With his man coverage skills and extensive experience playing at a high level in the SEC while at Tennessee, Sutton has a chance to beat Gay out for the starting job in training camp. Veteran Coty Sensabaugh, signed as a free agent in the offseason, will also get a look.

Meanwhile, Senquez Golson is somewhat of a wild card. The Steelers second-round pick in 2015, has yet to play in a regular-season game because of injuries.

“Cameron is a press corner and plays close to the line of scrimmage, but can also play off,” Steelers secondary coach Carnell Lake said. “He does a good job of mirroring the receiver. He stays close, and that shows in his productivity as a corner for Tennessee over the years in his career.”

The 5-foot-11, 188-pound Sutton became a starter as a freshman in 2013 and started every game through his junior season. He was limited to seven games last season because of a fractured ankle but recovered in time to play in the Senior Bowl and take part in the NFL Scouting Combine.

In 45 career games, Sutton set a school record with 37 passes defensed to go with 127 tackles — 111 solo and 13 for loss — 7 interceptions, 3 forced fumbles and 3 fumble recoveries.
Tennessee cornerback Cameron Sutton (33) breaks up a pass intended for LSU wide receiver Travin Dural during practice for Saturday's Senior Bowl college football game, Wednesday, Jan. 25, 2017, in Mobile, Ala. (AP Photo/Butch Dill)

The Steelers plan to play more man coverage next season to take advantage of the skill sets of outside corners Artie Burns and Ross Cockrell. Sutton is comfortable playing man.

“That’s something I did pretty much every play in college,” Sutton said. “We played man, single high, or some form of man every single play.”

Sutton ran a 4.52-second 40-yard dash at the combine and says his ankle is completely healed.

“I felt my best, 100 percent, when I got into the Senior Bowl,” Sutton said. “That’s when I felt my best moving around again. And then getting closer to the combine, pro day and everything I hadn’t had any problems. I’m really, really good right now.”

While Sutton’s best shot at starting is in the slot, the Steelers like that he also played some safety in college. The Steelers are thin beyond starters Sean Davis and Mike Mitchell. Their top reserves are Robert Golden and Jordan Dangerfield.

“I think versatility in a defensive back is something you always should look for, the ability to be able to call any defense and the defensive back should be able to draw upon his skills to be able to handle that,” Lake said. “I think that just comes with drafting the right guys. I think this is a good attempt, especially in the third round, of getting someone who can help us do that.”

Sutton and Lake met the night before Tennessee’s pro day. Sutton came away hoping the Steelers would draft him.

“Whatever the team needs me to do,” Sutton said. “I’m excited to be a Steeler.”

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 Post subject: Re: Cam Sutton
PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 12:52 am 
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If we were mostly going to play zone or off man, I'd give Sutton a 60% chance of winning the job. I'm willing to have open mind about him playing press vs NFL receivers but I don't think that's playing the percentages.

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 Post subject: Re: Cam Sutton
PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 3:23 pm 
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I will say this. When I watch Cam Sutton on film, I don't think about short arms or small hands. He's a guy that makes plays. He's got great hips and feet and that is evident in his punt return success as well. Beyond that, he seems like a smart kid. He reads plays early and anticipates. That mental side of the game can't be overlooked.

Given the run on CBs and Safeties at that point, I think it was a very good pick.


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 Post subject: Re: Cam Sutton
PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 4:18 pm 
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franco-- When you see him make plays-- they all seem to be from off coverage. He's a really good off-coverage player. I'm not sure that helps you at all vs NE, unless maybe at safety.

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