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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:01 pm 
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I hate to sound like Nick, but if you value these guys for more than entertainment purposes, you're being naive.


Why do you hate to sound like the person telling it like it is. :lol:


No offense intended, but it seems we don't agree on a great many things!


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[Who cares? As long as he makes my TV Show more entertaining, I don't care about those women and kids. He's not my role model, not my friend, not my brother, I never plan to have a beer with him, all he is to me is a character on my favorite TV SHOW, so as long as he performs at a high level, I want him on my team, when that stops, kick his ass to the curb with no sentimentality.


For one who openly champions socialism, this is so very socially considerate of you Nick...

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...I can guess why it is that LTW, along with most other sane adults, rarely agrees with your perspective...

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Monogamy is fucking stupid anyway.


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There's what, like 10 species that mate for life??

I know I spent a good portion of my life really believing pussy was gold.

Most addictive drug there is IMO.

But those are the words of an addict...


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1 of my best friends in the world has four baby mamas...He has a great job pays his child support. He is a good father loves his kids he just doesn't believe in condoms or committed relationships.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dg9Q3i3jkho

"good" being a relative term, of course...

Love is sacrifice.

These situations are still not the absolute best for the kids' sake...
The limitations that such situations are subject to are directly impacted by the limits of what AB or your friend are willing to sacrifice for the sake of their own kids...
These things could have been better thought through before they decided to involve other human beings in their self-centered limitations.

Just sayin'...


Here's hoping they make the best of their situations going forward, for the kids' sake, and that we can all take note of how we should and should not treat our own situations...
...and if we have kids of our own or one day hope to, for their sake as much as ours...


Agree 100%.

Sorry FC, your buddy isn't a good role model for those kids. There's no way in hell he can be a great father just because he pays for em. Being a dad means physically being there and spending time, not popping out as many kids as you can because you don't like condoms.


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Seems like AB & FC's friend need to take a trip to the doctor for a lil snip snip.

Then they can slay all the pussy they want without fathering more children.


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Seems like AB & FC's friend need to take a trip to the doctor for a lil snip snip.

Then they can slay all the pussy they want without fathering more children.


Yup!

Quit bringing additional kids into the world as shitty parents.


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 Post subject: Re: Antonio Brown is a bum?
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I refrained from commenting in here for a while only to be compelled to make a comment against my own better judgement and at risk of personal attacks. Antonio may be a bum in some folks eyes but to me he is a victim of circumstance. If he wasn't as famous and wealthy likely this 'appalling scenario' is not even cared about. This sorta situation is common and an everyday occurrence. I agree from a traditional perspective this is less than morally acceptable especially in today's society. More importantly you'd think these women had complete control in this situation. Having the ability to make that ultimate decision whether to open up their thighs when consensual. Unless they were raped it was a decision and thereby consensual. So, since they did consensually open up those thighs doesn't that make them as responsible? Don't you find that these women are just as much to blame as Antonio is? So if Antonio is labeled a bum than what's that make these women? In the end it doesn't matter one Fucking Iota what anyone thinks. It's their business and None of Ours.


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Steelafan77 wrote:
I refrained from commenting in here for a while only to be compelled to make a comment against my own better judgement and at risk of personal attacks. Antonio may be a bum in some folks eyes but to me he is a victim of circumstance. If he wasn't as famous and wealthy likely this 'appalling scenario' is not even cared about. This sorta situation is common and an everyday occurrence. I agree from a traditional perspective this is less than morally acceptable especially in today's society. More importantly you'd think these women had complete control in this situation. Having the ability to make that ultimate decision whether to open up their thighs when consensual. Unless they were raped it was a decision and thereby consensual. So, since they did consensually open up those thighs doesn't that make them as responsible? Don't you find that these women are just as much to blame as Antonio is? So if Antonio is labeled a bum than what's that make these women? In the end it doesn't matter one Fucking Iota what anyone thinks. It's their business and None of Ours.


The women were/are either

A. In love with Antonio before he left them
B. Money seeking whores
C. A combo of both


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FC wrote:
1 of my best friends in the world has four baby mamas...He has a great job pays his child support. He is a good father loves his kids he just doesn't believe in condoms or committed relationships.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dg9Q3i3jkho


And one of my best friends has 7 baby mamas and 9 kids. He doesn't have a good job or pay much support, but he spends a lot of time with all of those kids and cares about them very much. He even became a step father to several of the baby mamas kids from other guys. Dude claims like 12 kids as his own. Some think he's a dirt bag for irresponsibly making all of those kids. I can't disagree, but he at least cares for them and makes an effort to be in their lives. If AB pays the support and is in the kids lives, I can't judge. I think it's the wrong way to go about things, but oh well.


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I don't have any friends. LoL.


: money grubbing whores for the win.


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 Post subject: Re: Antonio Brown is a bum?
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Steeledge wrote:
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[Who cares? As long as he makes my TV Show more entertaining, I don't care about those women and kids. He's not my role model, not my friend, not my brother, I never plan to have a beer with him, all he is to me is a character on my favorite TV SHOW, so as long as he performs at a high level, I want him on my team, when that stops, kick his ass to the curb with no sentimentality.


For one who openly champions socialism, this is so very socially considerate of you Nick...

:roll:

...I can guess why it is that LTW, along with most other sane adults, rarely agrees with your perspective...


I don't watch TV sports from the perspective of expecting the people on the TV screen to be beacons of morality. I just want to be entertained. I'm not going to do extreme vetting of the personal lives of the characters in my TV SHOW, I just want the best PERFORMERS possible when I'm watching, I don't want poor performers who DON'T ENTERTAIN and LOSE, but later I am told they are good fathers and husbands. It doesn't matter! Like I said, they aren't my friends, they aren't my brothers, I'm never going to have a beer with them and I don't even want to. When I watch a rock concert, do I care if the performers are on heroin? NO. If I watch a movie or TV show with Charlie Sheen, do I care if he's a substance abusing immoral dick? NO. I personally equate sports to those things, it's NOTHING MORE than an entertainment option. Geeeez! When did this obsession with these assholes private lives get so big? I don't remember it being so constant and in your face when I was a kid! When Arrowhead Holmes shot a gun at a police helicopter that made less news than this! And people wher HAPPY that Rooney got him of so he could keep playing.


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I don't watch TV sports from the perspective of expecting the people on the TV screen to be beacons of morality. I just want to be entertained. I'm not going to do extreme vetting of the personal lives of the characters in my TV SHOW, I just want the best PERFORMERS possible when I'm watching, I don't want poor performers who DON'T ENTERTAIN and LOSE, but later I am told they are good fathers and husbands. It doesn't matter! Like I said, they aren't my friends, they aren't my brothers, I'm never going to have a beer with them and I don't even want to. When I watch a rock concert, do I care if the performers are on heroin? NO. If I watch a movie or TV show with Charlie Sheen, do I care if he's a substance abusing immoral dick? NO. I personally equate sports to those things, it's NOTHING MORE than an entertainment option. Geeeez! When did this obsession with these assholes private lives get so big? I don't remember it being so constant and in your face when I was a kid! When Arrowhead Holmes shot a gun at a police helicopter that made less news than this! And people wher HAPPY that Rooney got him of so he could keep playing.

For one who "works" in the modern information tech industry to be so completely clueless as to it's effects on society is also very telling, Nick...

For all you deep thinkers out there, allow me to pose a thought question:

If our founding fathers were alive today attempting to establish this, the greatest nation on the planet, in this day and age, do you think they would succeed?
Do you think they would be allowed to succeed?!

Consider Thomas Jefferson penning words like "we hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal"
...meanwhile, back in Monticello, there were lighter-skinned children of his slaves running around with his striking resemblance...

Thank God things went down the way they did, when they did...

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 Post subject: Re: Antonio Brown is a bum?
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Nick, I certainly understand your 'entertainment' point, but it seems to me, with the Steelers at least (and Pens, and many other teams you seem to discuss here), you have an awful lot invested in "just entertainment." Just curious, but do you invest this much time/money/energy in all of your entertainment choices? When/if you go to a local bar/restaurant and a band is playing, do you do deep research about them, like what band they were in before, how long they have played, what brand of instrument they paly...etc...and then chat about them online for hours a day? Do you buy their t-shirts and music every year and each year after? It seems with all of the different ways you seem to be "entertained" I don't see how there's enough time in the day to complete your entertainment process with all of your chosen entertainers. Just wondering, really not trying to be a jerk.


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Nick, I certainly understand your 'entertainment' point, but it seems to me, with the Steelers at least (and Pens, and many other teams you seem to discuss here), you have an awful lot invested in "just entertainment." Just curious, but do you invest this much time/money/energy in all of your entertainment choices? When/if you go to a local bar/restaurant and a band is playing, do you do deep research about them, like what band they were in before, how long they have played, what brand of instrument they paly...etc...and then chat about them online for hours a day? Do you buy their t-shirts and music every year and each year after? It seems with all of the different ways you seem to be "entertained" I don't see how there's enough time in the day to complete your entertainment process with all of your chosen entertainers. Just wondering, really not trying to be a jerk.

Keep in mind, DP, Nick "works" for the gov't...

He's got lotsa time to kill... :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Antonio Brown is a bum?
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I don't watch TV sports from the perspective of expecting the people on the TV screen to be beacons of morality. I just want to be entertained. I'm not going to do extreme vetting of the personal lives of the characters in my TV SHOW, I just want the best PERFORMERS possible when I'm watching, I don't want poor performers who DON'T ENTERTAIN and LOSE, but later I am told they are good fathers and husbands. It doesn't matter! Like I said, they aren't my friends, they aren't my brothers, I'm never going to have a beer with them and I don't even want to. When I watch a rock concert, do I care if the performers are on heroin? NO. If I watch a movie or TV show with Charlie Sheen, do I care if he's a substance abusing immoral dick? NO. I personally equate sports to those things, it's NOTHING MORE than an entertainment option. Geeeez! When did this obsession with these assholes private lives get so big? I don't remember it being so constant and in your face when I was a kid! When Arrowhead Holmes shot a gun at a police helicopter that made less news than this! And people wher HAPPY that Rooney got him of so he could keep playing.

For one who "works" in the modern information tech industry to be so completely clueless as to it's effects on society is also very telling, Nick...

For all you deep thinkers out there, allow me to pose a thought question:

If our founding fathers were alive today attempting to establish this, the greatest nation on the planet, in this day and age, do you think they would succeed?
Do you think they would be allowed to succeed?!

Consider Thomas Jefferson penning words like "we hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal"
...meanwhile, back in Monticello, there were lighter-skinned children of his slaves running around with his striking resemblance...

Thank God things went down the way they did, when they did...


I'll bite.

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If our founding fathers were alive today attempting to establish this, the greatest nation on the planet, in this day and age, do you think they would succeed?
Do you think they would be allowed to succeed?!


Easy: yes.

The reason why is that a people are to their constitution and regime what material is to its form. Not every material will accept just any form. Witness the lousy transition to representational govt in many places formerly governed by tyrannical regimes. Americans are fully habituated to republican government. It would be 10x easier to pass it now than it was then.

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Consider Thomas Jefferson penning words like "we hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal"
...meanwhile, back in Monticello, there were lighter-skinned children of his slaves running around with his striking resemblance...


Seems an irrelevant aside you threw in. All created equal was a European enlightenment ideal. No one believed this in the history of human kind prior to the enlightenment. Actually believing it requires that you commit to contractual politics since it makes natural political association impossible. If you want the details, hit Hobbes, Rousseau, Locke. (Locke, by the way, is your real hero. The roots of American conservatism go back to his door step. Witness how he cites freedom of will as more important than making right decisions. For the ancients, knowledge is more crucially human than will; for the moderns, the will is more crucially human. You may thank Descartes for this turn of events.)

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Thank God things went down the way they did, when they did...

Why on earth would you thank God? Better to thank the founders who had the good sense carefully to read Plato, Aristotle, Machiavelli, Rousseau, Montesquieu, Hobbes, and Locke, learn the right lessons from failed revolutions, and who had the political insight and adroitness to fashion and sell a republic to a fiercely independent populace.

On a final note, if all that stands between moral success and your children is media reports of AB knocking up several women, then there are other serous issues in play. No doubt all you did was read the Hardy Boys growing up and that is why you have turned out so finely.

This was only the one-drachma course. If you want more, you'l need to pay the full fifty. If you know the reference I will consider a discount, however.

GO STEELERS!

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Steeledge wrote:
If our founding fathers were alive today attempting to establish this, the greatest nation on the planet, in this day and age, do you think they would succeed?
No.
Steeledge wrote:
Do you think they would be allowed to succeed?!
No.

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If our founding fathers were alive today attempting to establish this, the greatest nation on the planet, in this day and age, do you think they would succeed?
No.
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Do you think they would be allowed to succeed?!
No.

I think I agree.

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Thank God things went down the way they did, when they did...

Why on earth would you thank God? Better to thank the founders who had the good sense carefully to read Plato, Aristotle, Machiavelli, Rousseau, Montesquieu, Hobbes, and Locke, learn the right lessons from failed revolutions, and who had the political insight and adroitness to fashion and sell a republic to a fiercely independent populace.

Nice pontification there, Lit...
Methinks it a common fault of "philosophes" to think way too highly of themselves and their ilk, to the point that they give too much credit to said ilk as the originators of such ideals while averting the truth staring them in the face...

et tu, Lit-ay?

Even one drachma is too great a price for such sophistry...
;)

...typical, though, so y'all get a pass...

Let's take a moment to read a little further into what Mr. Jefferson wrote, shall we?:
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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

If this is not direct acknowledgement by Thomas Jefferson of the same being that I choose to give thanks to for these events and their timing, then who, pray tell, is "their Creator"?!

...thanks for playing...

I will ever contend that it was all part of a grand plan, and couldn't have gone down as it did in any other way or time.
As I see it, that window of opportunity, unfortunately, is closed until there's a much bigger shake-up on a global scale.

But if you think too hard about it, or, better stated, "lean unto thine own understanding" a bit too much, you just might miss the shake-up as it's already happening 8-) ...

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On a final note, if all that stands between moral success and your children is media reports of AB knocking up several women, then there are other serous issues in play. No doubt all you did was read the Hardy Boys growing up and that is why you have turned out so finely.

Aw, hell no, on all points!
Fortunately for me and my kids, we are learning to be so much more than what this modern society would mold us into.
Again, I thank God for that good fortune.
Pass it on.

However, I'm not naive enough to ignore that there is a stronger pull than ever to buy into what Society's selling as a recipe for the "Happiness" that Mr. Jefferson referred to...
As a parent, I need to be vigilant in helping my kids see that sophistry for what it is and navigate the minefield, with particular attention to the mines I myself have wandered a bit close to...
It's up to me to hold up the light and help point the way, and that's a responsibility I take very seriously.
...because I have to for my Kids' sake...

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GO STEELERS!

Amen, brother! :D

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Nick, I certainly understand your 'entertainment' point, but it seems to me, with the Steelers at least (and Pens, and many other teams you seem to discuss here), you have an awful lot invested in "just entertainment." Just curious, but do you invest this much time/money/energy in all of your entertainment choices? When/if you go to a local bar/restaurant and a band is playing, do you do deep research about them, like what band they were in before, how long they have played, what brand of instrument they paly...etc...and then chat about them online for hours a day? Do you buy their t-shirts and music every year and each year after? It seems with all of the different ways you seem to be "entertained" I don't see how there's enough time in the day to complete your entertainment process with all of your chosen entertainers. Just wondering, really not trying to be a jerk.


Reading stuff, posting here, yeah, it's just for fun. What deep research am I doing? I just read stuff on the Trib & PG usually, and here, I don't research the draft or even know who the players we will pick are until after, I won't even watch the draft to be honest. And even if I did invest a lot of time in it, which I think I don't compared to most others here, and money, I go to one game per year usually, maybe 2, where's all the money I'm investing? I STILL don't care about what these people are outside of the games.


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Nick, I certainly understand your 'entertainment' point, but it seems to me, with the Steelers at least (and Pens, and many other teams you seem to discuss here), you have an awful lot invested in "just entertainment." Just curious, but do you invest this much time/money/energy in all of your entertainment choices? When/if you go to a local bar/restaurant and a band is playing, do you do deep research about them, like what band they were in before, how long they have played, what brand of instrument they paly...etc...and then chat about them online for hours a day? Do you buy their t-shirts and music every year and each year after? It seems with all of the different ways you seem to be "entertained" I don't see how there's enough time in the day to complete your entertainment process with all of your chosen entertainers. Just wondering, really not trying to be a jerk.

Keep in mind, DP, Nick "works" for the gov't...

He's got lotsa time to kill... :lol:


Actually, I have a lot of work, serious work, keeps me busy 9-12 hours a day- in your life time, you WILL 100% use internet websites that I helped design and test to keep from starving, 100% guaranteed. Today I have to do a presentation to a member of Trump's cabinet. People who think government employees don't work hard are fucking retards who can't know because they haven't been there to see the real truth, they are just dumb fucks who buy the bull shit that assholes like Rush Limbaugh feed them.


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Do you submit your reports to President Trump with random CAPS LOCK usage to make SURe nO ONe THinkS YOu ARe FUCkING AROUnd?


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Do you submit your reports to President Trump with random CAPS LOCK usage to make SURe nO ONe THinkS YOu ARe FUCkING AROUnd?


No, that is just for emphasis online. I've never reported directly to the president or congress, but I have reported to people that do. It's not some BS sales job where you go try to sell some dude at Giant Iggle a dozen cases of Doritos.


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Nick79 wrote:
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Do you submit your reports to President Trump with random CAPS LOCK usage to make SURe nO ONe THinkS YOu ARe FUCkING AROUnd?


I've never reported directly to the president or congress


No shit.


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Trump's cabinet?

Impressive.

Are you working on the site www.howtobombNK.com?

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