It is currently Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:04 am

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 167 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 ... 17  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Martavis Bryant
PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:56 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jul 09, 2014 9:19 am
Posts: 9247
COR-TEN wrote:
Still Lit wrote:
Not that you do not realize this, but granting you everything you are saying does not affect the validity of others' claims that the offense is completely different and much better with MB on the field. Yeah, MB could improve a lot and that should terrify the shit out of people. But even as inconsistent as he HAS BEEN, he STILL made the offense much more deadly than it has been without him.
Absolutely. I don't mean to suggest he doesn't. You can see the defense is worried about him simply because of his size and speed. I just wish the dude would get his head on straight and make people afraid of his skills, not natural talent or athletic ability. You can see his lack of concentration and basic "give a shit" when he drops passes.

You are what you put on film. With this you have to agree, yes?


I do agree. I also have much hope the new slightly more beefy Martavis is a more professional Martavis. If he never bother working out before or working on his craft, I hopeful the working out indicates also a commitment to get better at his craft.

Quixotic wrote:
I’ve said this before. What is valuable about Bryant is that he can take over a game about 3-4 times a year. And every defense has to play him as if this is the game. And that opens up all kinds of stuff for AB, Bell, and tight ends.


I think Scunge is right to be worried about WR, but I stand by my claim that it does not matter who we draft at WR this year for this year. He will not have the impact Bryant will if he returns. Not even close. Team needs Bryant back badly or it is going to be the KC playoff game again over and over again.

_________________
Frank Sinatra, Jr. 'Black Night'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jdwl7X6Jruo


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Martavis Bryant
PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 12:01 pm 
Offline

Joined: Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:54 pm
Posts: 2079
COR-TEN wrote:
Stumbled upon the following - AB and MB full game highlights :





Take note of MB's work in those two games. Multiple dropped passes.

Many of which would have changed the outcome of the game. Did catch a bomb and one in traffic.

He does open up the middle and short for AB, however, but was very inconsistent and missed a free play on a go route.

A lot of potential, but not close yet.


And Shaq has missed some key free throws. Doesn't mean Shaq wasn't great. At the end of the day, what makes Bryant special is he has great size coupled with amazing speed. That is a rare combo. If he was as skilled as AB, Bryant would be a top five receiver of all time. But Bryant doesn't need to be that skilled to be a legit top tier No. 1 WR. Bitching about his okay skills is like bitching about Shaq's free throws.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Martavis Bryant
PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 3:31 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:01 am
Posts: 10367
Still Lit wrote:
I think Scunge is right to be worried about WR, but I stand by my claim that it does not matter who we draft at WR this year for this year. He will not have the impact Bryant will if he returns. Not even close. Team needs Bryant back badly or it is going to be the KC playoff game again over and over again.


We won't be lucky enough again to face a team like MIA or KC in the playoffs.

_________________
------------------------------------------------------


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Martavis Bryant
PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:30 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jul 09, 2014 9:19 am
Posts: 9247
Kodiak wrote:
Still Lit wrote:
I think Scunge is right to be worried about WR, but I stand by my claim that it does not matter who we draft at WR this year for this year. He will not have the impact Bryant will if he returns. Not even close. Team needs Bryant back badly or it is going to be the KC playoff game again over and over again.


We won't be lucky enough again to face a team like MIA or KC in the playoffs.


Probably not, but we very well may do nothing but kick field goals a few times again. Offense seems lost inside the 20.

_________________
Frank Sinatra, Jr. 'Black Night'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jdwl7X6Jruo


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Martavis Bryant
PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:46 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:46 pm
Posts: 371
Gentlemen, thought your intentions are noble, let the beating stop. The horse is dead.

_________________
Amateur photographer who's still learning - see my Flickr page:
https://www.flickr.com/people/fotosbyfree/


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Martavis Bryant
PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:53 am 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jul 13, 2014 12:48 pm
Posts: 1304
We should see a decision on Bryant's reinstatement any day now. :?:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Martavis Bryant
PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:23 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2014 1:22 am
Posts: 8158
Donte Stallworth was drunk and high and ran over a pedestrian, killing him. He got a year but was reinstated after the super bowl.

How in the hell could dumbfuck Roger justify NOT reinstating Bryant for drinking cough syrup? I mean, it just isn't going to go down like that.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Martavis Bryant
PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:56 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu Oct 22, 2015 2:55 pm
Posts: 1566
Orangesteel wrote:
Donte Stallworth was drunk and high and ran over a pedestrian, killing him. He got a year but was reinstated after the super bowl.

How in the hell could dumbfuck Roger justify NOT reinstating Bryant for drinking cough syrup? I mean, it just isn't going to go down like that.


2009 was a long, long time ago in NFL years. The league has made some major revisions (some written, most not) over their conduct rules since then.

If that Stallworth killing happened today, he'd be gone from this league for a long, long time.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Martavis Bryant
PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 3:24 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Dec 03, 2015 12:22 am
Posts: 902
hey, the guy was jaywalking

_________________
"He's the slowest, best athlete I've ever seen in my life." - Vince Williams on Ben Roethlisberger

Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Martavis Bryant
PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2017 4:17 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Jul 09, 2014 7:14 pm
Posts: 1649
I am sorry but it would be just like Goodel to wait until AFTER the draft before reinstating Bryant. The Steelers need to know, need to have that information but it would be just like Goodel to twist the knife and withhold the info and make the Steelers wait, to where they psych themselves out and take a WR high because they just don't know.

And that is the point, we just don't know. People are just counting the time that he was officially suspended and then just blindly assuming that one year later on the nose, bam, he is reinstated. Ask Tanard Jackson why it took him 18 months to get reinstated. He was a S who played for Washington, that is how long he went for one of his suspensions.

DON'T ASSUME ANYTHING. That is why if I am the Steelers I spend a 3rd round pick on a WR this draft and if somebody like Corey Davis or Chris Godwin is there at the end of round 2, I probably make them the pick.

It isn't just the deep threat that we are missing with Bryant, we are also missing another big bodied WR in general who can run good routes and be a threat in the redzone. You look at what Ben was able to do throwing to a big bodied WR like Jericho Cotchery. He was a big possession WR but he was taller, had more weight and Ben connected with him on 10 TDs his last year in Pittsburgh. I just don't see Eli Rogers being a big TD producer, and sometimes having a taller, bigger possession WR is of more value in the end zone and for picking up first downs. Rogers can be covered and shut down easier but a taller WR has more of a catch radius, is able to box out a defender, can produce more free easy plays to move the chains.

It seems like we have two types of WRs in this offense, those that fall in the camp of Brown/Rogers and Ayers, and then those that fall into the camp of Bryant/Coates and Bey. But the one ugly duckling, Cobi Hamilton, he was neither fish nor fowl, but isn't is funny that Ben found him in crucial 3rd down situations because he was a big bodied possession type who can run clean routes and get open. There is a need for that type of WR and it is very much worth spending a 2nd or 3rd round pick on, someone who has more talent and speed like a Godwin would fit the bill nicely.

_________________
We have got to come up with a better name for 'sub package defense'!! Any ideas?


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 167 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 ... 17  Next

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 11 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
FORUM RULES --- PRIVACY POLICY




Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group