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 Post subject: 3rd Round Pick 83 Justin Layne CB Michigan State
PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:32 pm 
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YES! Justin Layne

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 Post subject: Re: 3rd Round Pick 83
PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:34 pm 
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Finally a fucking pick over 6 foot tall... :lol:

In all seriousness I never expected Layne to last this long. Great pick. Finally one I'm on board with from the get go.

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I like Layne. Size and good speed.Nice selection.


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 Post subject: Re: 3rd Round Pick 83
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They filled their 3 biggest needs....Let's hope they got the right guys.

Now let's use a couple of those 6 rounds picks to move up and grab two key guys in R4.

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Free safety was the biggest need and I think they’ve missed out on it

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bradshaw2ben wrote:
Free safety was the biggest need and I think they’ve missed out on it

Hahaha B2B. Silently drinking your tears.

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The way this draft is falling Gardener-Johnson, Thompson, Hooker along with later round talent very well can be there at 4.20...

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 Post subject: Re: 3rd Round Pick 83
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
Free safety was the biggest need and I think they’ve missed out on it

Should have traded up for Thornhill.


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Free safety was the biggest need and I think they’ve missed out on it

Should have traded up for Thornhill.

Once Blair went, trading up for Thornhill should have been mandatory.

CGJ and Hooker aren't solving the Sean Davis problem. CGJ is a slot corner with a slice of Safety flavor and Hooker is a SS who can cover. There's no quality FS starter and there isn't even a quality FS backup. I don't know what they're going to do to improve over last year's dismal deep coverage.

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bradshaw2ben wrote:
cop1211 wrote:
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Free safety was the biggest need and I think they’ve missed out on it

Should have traded up for Thornhill.

Once Blair went, trading up for Thornhill should have been mandatory.

CGJ and Hooker aren't solving the Sean Davis problem. CGJ is a slot corner with a slice of Safety flavor and Hooker is a SS who can cover. There's no quality FS starter and there isn't even a quality FS backup. I don't know what they're going to do to improve over last year's dismal deep coverage.

Answer is nada. :x
I wouldn’t waste my time on any safeties left.

Would you rather have:
1.CB Rock Ya Sin
2.FS Thornhill
3a.ILB Pratt 104 tackles,10.5 for loss, 6 sacks, 3 forced fumbles, 6’3,240,4.55
3b.WR Boykin
Or
1.ILB Bush 66 tackles , 8.5 for loss,4.5 sacks, 0 turnovers 5’11,234,4.43
2.Nothing plus 2020 3rd round.
3a.WR Johnson
3b.CB Layne


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 Post subject: Re: 3rd Round Pick 83
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
cop1211 wrote:
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Free safety was the biggest need and I think they’ve missed out on it

Should have traded up for Thornhill.

Once Blair went, trading up for Thornhill should have been mandatory.

CGJ and Hooker aren't solving the Sean Davis problem. CGJ is a slot corner with a slice of Safety flavor and Hooker is a SS who can cover. There's no quality FS starter and there isn't even a quality FS backup. I don't know what they're going to do to improve over last year's dismal deep coverage.

Sign Tre Boston on or after May 8th (or whatever the exact date is that UFAs no longer count towards the comp pick formula). He's a pure deep safety that stays healthy and generates TOs. You give him a 2-3M for a couple years and he probably takes it. We only have a few million in cap space left but there's plenty of ways to increase that.


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 Post subject: Re: 3rd Round Pick 83 Justin Layne CB Michigan State
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At this point, I'm with the above, Seabs.


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bradshaw2ben wrote:
cop1211 wrote:
bradshaw2ben wrote:
Free safety was the biggest need and I think they’ve missed out on it

Should have traded up for Thornhill.

Once Blair went, trading up for Thornhill should have been mandatory.

CGJ and Hooker aren't solving the Sean Davis problem. CGJ is a slot corner with a slice of Safety flavor and Hooker is a SS who can cover. There's no quality FS starter and there isn't even a quality FS backup. I don't know what they're going to do to improve over last year's dismal deep coverage.


Your man Tomlin loves Davis, and I would not at all be surprised if they don't draft safety at all.

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 Post subject: Re: 3rd Round Pick 83 Justin Layne CB Michigan State
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I love Davis the guy-teammate-leader. He’s just a player without a position.

I might take a shot at Kam’Ron Johnson (a real dilemma for Ron) from northern Arizona. Sort of a poor man’s Adderley. There’s also the possibility of drafting a CB that you think can play FS. Jamal Peters, for example. Jordan Wyatt. Nik Needham.

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 Post subject: Re: 3rd Round Pick 83 Justin Layne CB Michigan State
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Just saw Deionte Thompson has an arrest for aggravated assault in addition to the ligament injury so that likely takes him off many teams boards... too bad.

If he's there in the 4th I'd go get CB Isaiah Johnson.

What about Davante Davis from Texas?

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 Post subject: Re: 3rd Round Pick 83 Justin Layne CB Michigan State
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Davis is limited and doesn't make plays on the ball unless it is to the other team. He is an ok spot starter but B2B is right they needed something far more dynamic. I have no issue with them using one of their 5th to grab FSU CGJ kid. He has warts but athleticism and potential are worth a pop.


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 Post subject: Re: 3rd Round Pick 83 Justin Layne CB Michigan State
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I'm betting once Tomlin applies his DB coaching expertise to this player, he will be an all-pro.


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 Post subject: Re: 3rd Round Pick 83 Justin Layne CB Michigan State
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I thought people believing the Steelers would draft a safety high were batshit crazy.

I 110% KNEW Tombert thought safety was exactly where it needs to be with Davis and Edmunds (our FIRST ROUND PICK last season).

The Steelers not drafting a safety shouldn't have been a surprise to anybody. Whether you like the players or not (I don't like either) they have already thrown enough draft capital at that position.

Just wasn't going to happen.

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 Post subject: Re: 3rd Round Pick 83 Justin Layne CB Michigan State
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 Post subject: Re: 3rd Round Pick 83 Justin Layne CB Michigan State
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I'm betting once Tomlin applies his DB coaching expertise to this player, he will be an all-pro.


Tomlin has a way of turning DBs games up to 11.

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 Post subject: Re: 3rd Round Pick 83 Justin Layne CB Michigan State
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I like the pick but his deep speed is a concern.

I watched a few games and it is obvious when he gets a speed receiver he is forced to give a cushion. This means that WR can run slants and curls on him for easy yards. I'm sure this can be schemed away to some extent with a safety over the top if Layne is allowed to press hard at LOS but if you leave him on an island with a speedy receiver ...it could get ugly. Mclaurin in Ohio State game ran by him with ease. Fortunately for Layne the grossly overrated QB overthrew his WR.

Layne has skills but the lack make up speed is why he likely fell to the 3rd.


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 Post subject: Re: 3rd Round Pick 83 Justin Layne CB Michigan State
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Isn't Mclaurin a 4.3 speed guy? I can understand why someone might struggle to catch up with him.

Layne has all the tools. He has to learn more technique. I can't think of a better teacher than Joe Haden...who maximizes every ounce of his athletic ability. My only concern on Layne is his toughness. I'm not sure he always likes to get dirty. That said, we didn't draft him to be Ike Taylor against the run.


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 Post subject: Re: 3rd Round Pick 83 Justin Layne CB Michigan State
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Layne had 44 solo tackles, 72 total with assists.
He doesn’t shy away from contact.


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 Post subject: Re: 3rd Round Pick 83 Justin Layne CB Michigan State
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The thing I like about Layne is that he has that experience as a WR and was switched to CB. You look at how he is an easy mover, a fluid mover, I like how he can play the catch point and knock balls out. That length and reach he has is impressive too. Almost 6'2", 33 inch arms and has a vertical leap of 37.5 inches?? All of that and yet he ran a 6.90 3 cone time?? He had a short shuttle of 4.09??

I also don't know if he is as raw as some might think. He seems to be very smart, one of the scouting reports talked of how he does more advanced things like mixing up his punch when he is in press coverage. He seems to be a heady player who won't get fooled like Artie Burns does constantly. And he appears to have those movement skills, fluidity to not get beaten in coverage.

I think this pick could pay off big this year, I can see Nelson moving at times to the inside to slot CB, or even as a 3rd safety this year and Layne coming on to play that outside CB and playing 35-40% of the snaps.

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