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 Post subject: Re: Golden Tate down to Steelers and Patriots
PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 1:19 pm 
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Tate is a redundancy now. I grab Godwin outta GA late and call it good.


Tate would immediately start alongside JuJu.

Washington and Moncrief would be 3 and 4.

Tate is ONE HELLUVA player.

Throw in Switzer as the #5/package guy, add a mid/late round pick, and they'd be set.

The Pats have less cap room than the Steelers at the moment, and Pittsburgh could create more by extending Ben or Haden.


Absolutely. I think it would take WR very possibly out of the draft mix completely if we can land Tate.

I know they still like the two practice squad kids quite a bit too. We could really focus on other areas (especially the defense) if we were able to land Tate.

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 Post subject: Re: Golden Tate down to Steelers and Patriots
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Holy smokes! GO GET TAINT!


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 Post subject: Re: Golden Tate down to Steelers and Patriots
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Tate is a redundancy now. I grab Godwin outta GA late and call it good.


Tate would immediately start alongside JuJu.

Washington and Moncrief would be 3 and 4.

Tate is ONE HELLUVA player.


No, Moncrief would be the #3 and Wash #4, unless he makes a big 1st to 2nd year leap.


They would definitely fight it out in camp for those jobs for sure.

But...I think Washington is going to come around. He played great in the preseason and I think he simply lost confidence as the season went along.

What I did like about Washington though, is that after Ben literally called him out for fucking up continuously, Washington put his head down and went to work.

He played SIGNIFICANTLY better down the stretch and started to look like what we hoped he would look like when we drafted James.

I will not be at all surprised if James Washington turns into a very, very good player for us, as soon as this upcoming season. He has all the tools.[/quote]



agreed on Washington KC

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 Post subject: Re: Golden Tate down to Steelers and Patriots
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This would be a nice get. Then just focus on defense in the draft. It would be nice to take a flier on a WR with upside though. Maybe in the 3rd or 4th.

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 Post subject: Re: Golden Tate down to Steelers and Patriots
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Tate is a faster, more explosive Hines Ward. Great route runner and sneaky quick. Sure handed and smart; makes dudes miss and has serious YAC capability.

I’ve got no opinion of his HIG rating.

But seriously, if we can get Tate and Moncrief, we can address maybe ILB and TE in the first two rounds and get a WR in the third. Butler from ISU.


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 Post subject: Re: Golden Tate down to Steelers and Patriots
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If we only had room for 1 of Tate and Houston I'd sign Houston

But man, I'd love to have Tate

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 Post subject: Re: Golden Tate down to Steelers and Patriots
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I would love to have Tate. Can highly focus on beefing up the defense in the draft if we sign him, really don't want to have to burn a high pick on a receiver


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 Post subject: Re: Golden Tate down to Steelers and Patriots
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They would definitely fight it out in camp for those jobs for sure.

But...I think Washington is going to come around. He played great in the preseason and I think he simply lost confidence as the season went along.

What I did like about Washington though, is that after Ben literally called him out for fucking up continuously, Washington put his head down and went to work.

He played SIGNIFICANTLY better down the stretch and started to look like what we hoped he would look like when we drafted James.

I will not be at all surprised if James Washington turns into a very, very good player for us, as soon as this upcoming season. He has all the tools.[/quote]

I think some of Washington’s problems were ab collateral damage.


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 Post subject: Re: Golden Tate down to Steelers and Patriots
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If there's a bidding war, Tate won't come cheap.

i'd like him but wouldn't pay him premium $$.

WR is a commodity position, not a premium position.

Pay quarterbacks, pass rushers, pass protectors, and ballhawks. Maybe a TE if he's a Gronk.

Everything else is plug and play.

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 Post subject: Re: Golden Tate down to Steelers and Patriots
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#Cowboys were interested, but couldn't close the deal on Golden Tate? Sounds like the same problem they had last year on Sammy Watkins.

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 Post subject: Re: Golden Tate down to Steelers and Patriots
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Word is Golden Taint grew up a Steelers fan.

If that's true I hope Colbert/Rooney/Tomlin don't realize this as I could see them using it as an excuse to lowball the guy.

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 Post subject: Re: Golden Tate down to Steelers and Patriots
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If this was the same Tate from a few seasons back? Yeah but it isn't. With the Iggles and Lions he looked slower and frankly done. Maybe a change of scenery can change that but he'll be 31 when the season starts. I'd rather PS draft a WR in first 2 rounds.

Every FA period people get enamored by what players just to be and name recognition, rather than the reality: what they currently are. Unless Tate came reasonably cheap? I wouldn't bother.


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 Post subject: Re: Golden Tate down to Steelers and Patriots
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If this was the same Tate from a few seasons back? Yeah but it isn't. With the Iggles and Lions he looked slower and frankly done. Maybe a change of scenery can change that but he'll be 31 when the season starts. I'd rather PS draft a WR in first 2 rounds.

Every FA period people get enamored by what players just to be and name recognition, rather than the reality: what they currently are. Unless Tate came reasonably cheap? I wouldn't bother.

^ Stated better and with more detail than I did earlier.

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 Post subject: Re: Golden Tate down to Steelers and Patriots
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just to be ...bloody hell I need more coffee.

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 Post subject: Re: Golden Tate down to Steelers and Patriots
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I like Tate. I'd rather invest our $$ on the defensive side. Please remember those 4th quarter blown leads.


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 Post subject: Re: Golden Tate down to Steelers and Patriots
PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 3:04 pm 
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You're building a team.

You can't put a ton of dollars into one position.

Especially a commodity position that this year's draft also happens to be stocked with.

You pay:

Franchise QB
Pass rusher
Elite pass protector
Ballhawk
Generational talent

Everyone else is mix and match plug and play.

Period.

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 Post subject: Re: Golden Tate down to Steelers and Patriots
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You pay:

Franchise QB
Pass rusher
Elite pass protector
Ballhawk
Generational talent

Everyone else is mix and match plug and play.

Period.


Evidently the Browns disagree with you.

I think the Browns are going to be lucky to win 6 games in 2019. Why you may ask.

That franchise QB is going to be lucky to play 7 games...I expect the Browns have the worst Oline in the NFL in 2019

Austin Corbett was a bust....Cannot say I am surprised
They have big plans for Greg Robinson....That is all I need to know
Desmond Harrison despite a few people liking him is putrid
Joel Bitonio cannot bring his walker or life alert onto the field
Chris Hubbard cannot bring Bitonios walker on the field either

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 Post subject: Re: Golden Tate down to Steelers and Patriots
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Evidently the Browns disagree with you.

I think the Browns are going to be lucky to win 6 games in 2019. Why you may ask.

That franchise QB is going to be lucky to play 7 games...I expect the Browns have the worst Oline in the NFL in 2019


Completely agree. 100%. OL/DL is what derails all of these superstar teams on paper.

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Desmond Harrison despite a few people liking him is putrid


Hey, I liked him okay as a guy to hand over to Munchak for a couple of years, not as a guy to come out and start week 1.

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 Post subject: Re: Golden Tate down to Steelers and Patriots
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Evidently the Browns disagree with you.

I think the Browns are going to be lucky to win 6 games in 2019. Why you may ask.

That franchise QB is going to be lucky to play 7 games...I expect the Browns have the worst Oline in the NFL in 2019


Completely agree. 100%. OL/DL is what derails all of these superstar teams on paper.

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Desmond Harrison despite a few people liking him is putrid


Hey, I liked him okay as a guy to hand over to Munchak for a couple of years, not as a guy to come out and start week 1.





you completely agree with what..i agree on your OL concerns for them but ill avatar bet you both the browns win more than 6 games

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 Post subject: Re: Golden Tate down to Steelers and Patriots
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Tate signed with the Giants.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status ... 10625?s=20

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 Post subject: Re: Golden Tate down to Steelers and Patriots
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Anyone confirming?

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 Post subject: Re: Golden Tate down to Steelers and Patriots
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Greek, I agree that Browns OL will be their undoing.

Also, year 2 for QBs is sometimes a big adjustment,

I'd put the over under at 8.5

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BarryFoster wrote:
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Anyone confirming?


https://twitter.com/nflnetwork/status/1 ... 52353?s=20
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status ... 77121?s=20
https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1106295788886478848?s=20
https://twitter.com/CAA_Football/status ... 85920?s=20

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 Post subject: Re: Golden Tate down to Steelers and Patriots
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Evidently the Browns disagree with you.

I think the Browns are going to be lucky to win 6 games in 2019. Why you may ask.

That franchise QB is going to be lucky to play 7 games...I expect the Browns have the worst Oline in the NFL in 2019


Completely agree. 100%. OL/DL is what derails all of these superstar teams on paper.

FC wrote:
Desmond Harrison despite a few people liking him is putrid


Hey, I liked him okay as a guy to hand over to Munchak for a couple of years, not as a guy to come out and start week 1.



you completely agree with what..i agree on your OL concerns for them but ill avatar bet you both the browns win more than 6 games


You dont want to bet me...No one ever does....Black Mirror and the Pig is all I have to say


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 Post subject: Re: Golden Tate down to Steelers and Patriots
PostPosted: Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:02 pm 
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Can't blame Taint.

He's getting older and doesn't give a fuck where he plays, he just wants cash.

That said, we're still in a position to take the best WR/TE/ILB/OLB or Corner that's available next month.

Going to be our most exciting draft in some time and Kevin Colbert needs to hit a grand slam.

Can't have any Dri Archers in this draft. Not a single fucking one.

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