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 Post subject: Re: Good News For Now: Fangio, Not Munchak Hired in Denver
PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:53 pm 
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You do know that Dungy is in the NFL HOF, right?

I agree that a coach who wins early often doesn't get back, but let's not pretend Tomlin didn't have a nice run, and is probably going to end up with a gold jacket unless he walks away soon.

Just to be clear...are you suggesting that Tomlin is going in to the professional football Hall of Fame?

I think it is EXTREMELY likely, unless he, say, goes 8-8 next year and gets canned, never again coaches in the NFL.

By about week 5 next year, he's going to be Top 25 all time in wins. Here are the HC ahead of him in wins who are not in the HOF:
Belichick (stone cold mortal lock), Reid, Schottenheimer, Reeves, Knox, Coughlin, Shanahan, Fisher, Holmgren, Cowher, Fox, McCarthy. Of those, Reid, Schottenheimer, Reeves, Knox, Fisher, Holmgren have no titles and ALL of them have a worse win pct than Bullshit Mike. If Mike Tomlin goes 15-6, he'd catch Dungy in every accomplishment, and that's without winning another SB. If tomlin wins something like 2/3 of his games in 2019 (11-5 regular season + 1-1 in post), every coach with more wins will have a worse win pct or be in the HOF. Also, this just in: he's only 46.

My guess? He coaches at least 5 more years in the NFL, catches Cowher with 28+ more wins, lands somewhere upwards of 15th all-time in wins, his win pct comes down some but he absolutely becomes a lock, whether he does it in Pittsburgh or not, and whether we think so or not.

We’ll see, but I would think that he needs another Lombardi to be legitimately considered.

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 Post subject: Re: Good News For Now: Fangio, Not Munchak Hired in Denver
PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:20 pm 
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And I would say Tony Dungy back to you.

Tomlin and Dungy have nearly the same coaching resumé, and Tomlin will likely be ahead of Dungy in wins in a year and a hlaf.

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 Post subject: Re: Good News For Now: Fangio, Not Munchak Hired in Denver
PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:04 pm 
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steelmann58 wrote:
I wonder if Gase will keep anyone specifically Greene


https://247sports.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/Article/Steelers-Kevin-Greene-coach-127576596/

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Steelers may consider hiring Kevin Greene as new OLB coach
ByBryan DeArdo Jan 9, 9:19 AM

Kevin Greene was a member of Pittsburgh's famed Blitzburgh defense. He is a member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame, electing to go in as a Steeler despite spending just three of his 15 NFL seasons in Pittsburgh. He was part of a Super Bowl winning staff while serving as the Packers' outsider linebackers coach during Green Bay's victory over the Steelers in Super Bowl XLV. He is a member of Pittsburgh's Hall of Honor while being enshrined in the Steelers' first-ever induction class.

He should now be considered to join Pittsburgh's staff as the team's new linebacker coach.

Considering Greene for Joey Porter's old job should be a no-brainer. In 2009, as serving as a coaching intern on Pittsburgh's staff during the team's 2008 training camp, Greene began his five-year run as the Packers' OLB coach. Greene worked closely with Clay Matthews, who was a rookie when Greene started his coaching tenure with the Packers. Under Greene's watch, Matthews earned Pro Bowl honors in each of his first four NFL seasons while being tabbed as an All-Pro during the Packers' 2010 championship season. In Super Bowl XLV, after receiving a pep talk from Greene, Matthews delivered one of the game's biggest plays when he forced a fumble of Pittsburgh running back Rashard Mendenhall. Matthew's forced turnover helped hold off the Steelers' comeback bid while giving the Packers their fourth Super Bowl victory.

“He came in a smart kid,” Greene recently said of Matthews. “I was able to show Clay specific techniques one time and he could replicate it.”

Matthews, who now has 83.5 career sacks and six Pro Bowl selections to his name, says that Greene played a significant role in his team's Super Bowl victory back in February in 2011.

“With his preparation, especially at our position, we were able to make some key plays in that game,” Matthews said of Greene’s impact on Super Bowl XLV.

After a three-year hiatus from coaching, Greene served as the New York Jets' OLB coach over the past two seasons. While the Jets failed to produce winning seasons, New York's outside linebackers made significant strides under Greene, with three year veteran Jordan Jenkins setting a career high with 7.0 sacks this past season. Greene is now back on the open market after the Jets made a coaching overhaul immediately following the 2018 season.

While Greene has proven himself as a defensive coach, he also has a unique understanding of the standard that exists in Pittsburgh. A member of a military family, Greene also understands the value of hard work, sacrifice and being selfless and how that applies to team sports. That attitude would surely be welcome in Pittsburgh, as the Steelers look to rebound after a disappointing 2018 season.


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 Post subject: Re: Good News For Now: Fangio, Not Munchak Hired in Denver
PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:59 pm 
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The lie of Mike Tomlin as a great HC.

Dick Lebeau had a historically great run as our DC, a defense he masterminded. Bruce Arians had a nice run as our OC, an offense he masterminded. Remember Tomlin often talking about chunks of yardage when Arians was here? Where do you think he got that from? The "credit" given to Tomlin in those days was he let his coaches coach. The Steelers were already a flagship franchise, a winning franchise... before Mike Tomlin. The roster was stacked with talent, talent that had already won a SB... before Mike Tomlin. We had a gm who had proven he could draft... before Mike Tomlin. We have the most supportive ownership in the league and maybe in all of sports. The machine had already been built... before Mike Tomlin.

Talk about getting it handed to you on a sports silver platter... wow. Ownership could have hired any of a dime a dozen coaches and gotten similar results.

Tomlin's football philosophy has been bad for this franchise the past several years. Really, it's a disaster for this roster as currently constructed in the current nfl era.

There are coaching heavyweights in the history of football who have turned utter garbage at the college and pro level into winners and who have done it with multiple teams. Mike Tomlin as a HC is no comparison to men like these.

There has been no coach in the history of sports, handed more on a silver platter, than Mike Tomlin.

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 Post subject: Re: Good News For Now: Fangio, Not Munchak Hired in Denver
PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:49 pm 
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NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports the Broncos are hoping to add former Steelers OL coach Mike Munchak to their coaching staff.
Munchak was previously a finalist for Denver's head-coaching job. That role went to former Bears DC Vic Fangio, though the Broncos came away impressed with Munchak during the interview process and are hoping he'll accept another position on Denver's coaching staff. He could be in play as the team's offensive coordinator now that Gary Kubiak and the Broncos appear to be going separate ways. Munchak's contract with the Steelers is up, allowing him to explore other opportunities.

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