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 Post subject: Re: More AB Drama / Trade Request merged thread
PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 9:51 am 
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Interesting article by Wexell, where he goes player by player through the roster to debunk AB's recent claim that he was upset with others not being focused on winning:

https://247sports.com/nfl/pittsburgh-st ... 127303223/


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 Post subject: Re: More AB Drama / Trade Request merged thread
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That was an interesting article. All opinion but still interesting.

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Mathematics are hard, but the fact that 31 other teams have expensive draft budgets and high-level scouting corps should mean something to a team drafting near the bottom of every round over the last 10 years. That's EVERY round.

I guess math doesn't matter when you're entitled to championships at birth.

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 Post subject: Re: More AB Drama / Trade Request merged thread
PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:16 am 
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W&M_Steeler wrote:
Interesting article by Wexell, where he goes player by player through the roster to debunk AB's recent claim that he was upset with others not being focused on winning:

https://247sports.com/nfl/pittsburgh-st ... 127303223/

His only mistake was referring to Antonio Brown as "the Steelers' best player".

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 Post subject: Re: More AB Drama / Trade Request merged thread
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jebrick wrote:
That was an interesting article. All opinion but still interesting.

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Mathematics are hard, but the fact that 31 other teams have expensive draft budgets and high-level scouting corps should mean something to a team drafting near the bottom of every round over the last 10 years. That's EVERY round.

I guess math doesn't matter when you're entitled to championships at birth.


Ouch. This has to be a shot at AR2?


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 Post subject: Re: More AB Drama / Trade Request merged thread
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Miter Saw wrote:
jebrick wrote:
That was an interesting article. All opinion but still interesting.

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Mathematics are hard, but the fact that 31 other teams have expensive draft budgets and high-level scouting corps should mean something to a team drafting near the bottom of every round over the last 10 years. That's EVERY round.

I guess math doesn't matter when you're entitled to championships at birth.


Ouch. This has to be a shot at AR2?


It's a shot at fans.


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 Post subject: Re: More AB Drama / Trade Request merged thread
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Pretty sure it’s a shot at A2.

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 Post subject: Re: More AB Drama / Trade Request merged thread
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How would fans have any input into draft staff budget? Has to be referring to ownership.


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 Post subject: Re: More AB Drama / Trade Request merged thread
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He's talking about the need to restock through the draft and how the Steeler's haven't had the draft position to do so. If you follow Jim on twitter he's made it pretty clear that he thinks the fans have unreasonable expectations for the overall talent of the team given where they have drafted.

And his comment about draft budget was simply that teams are getting better at drafting so you don't get to clean up the mistakes they made when you sit at 24-32.


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Read this article for more insight into what he's talking about regarding draft position:

https://247sports.com/nfl/pittsburgh-st ... 127080478/

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But I also believe that the NFL draft truly is the lifeblood of a team, and that the Steelers have won too much, too often, to have replenished their stock through the draft the way, say, the New Orleans Saints did when they endured four losing seasons out of five after winning their last Super Bowl.


It's cleary a shot at the fans and not the FO.


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 Post subject: Re: More AB Drama / Trade Request merged thread
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FromPittWithLove wrote:
Read this article for more insight into what he's talking about regarding draft position:

https://247sports.com/nfl/pittsburgh-st ... 127080478/

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But I also believe that the NFL draft truly is the lifeblood of a team, and that the Steelers have won too much, too often, to have replenished their stock through the draft the way, say, the New Orleans Saints did when they endured four losing seasons out of five after winning their last Super Bowl.


It's cleary a shot at the fans and not the FO.


And to think, it took CLE how many QBs and top picks in the draft to finally have a shot to be a winner...


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 Post subject: Re: More AB Drama / Trade Request merged thread
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FromPittWithLove wrote:
He's talking about the need to restock through the draft and how the Steeler's haven't had the draft position to do so. If you follow Jim on twitter he's made it pretty clear that he thinks the fans have unreasonable expectations for the overall talent of the team given where they have drafted.

And his comment about draft budget was simply that teams are getting better at drafting so you don't get to clean up the mistakes they made when you sit at 24-32.

I agree with this, although the reply would be "then how do the Patriots keep winning?"

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 Post subject: Re: More AB Drama / Trade Request merged thread
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Poltargyst wrote:
FromPittWithLove wrote:
He's talking about the need to restock through the draft and how the Steeler's haven't had the draft position to do so. If you follow Jim on twitter he's made it pretty clear that he thinks the fans have unreasonable expectations for the overall talent of the team given where they have drafted.

And his comment about draft budget was simply that teams are getting better at drafting so you don't get to clean up the mistakes they made when you sit at 24-32.

I agree with this, although the reply would be "then how do the Patriots keep winning?"


Or how does the Jaguars keep losing?

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 Post subject: Re: More AB Drama / Trade Request merged thread
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In One Word..., Coaching. Whatever Belichick does works, and works well. He has always convinced his players to buy into the team first game plan. Those that don't are jettisoned regardless of bloodlines/sparq. I respect the hell out of this coaching method.

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 Post subject: Re: More AB Drama / Trade Request merged thread
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Poltargyst wrote:
FromPittWithLove wrote:
He's talking about the need to restock through the draft and how the Steeler's haven't had the draft position to do so. If you follow Jim on twitter he's made it pretty clear that he thinks the fans have unreasonable expectations for the overall talent of the team given where they have drafted.

And his comment about draft budget was simply that teams are getting better at drafting so you don't get to clean up the mistakes they made when you sit at 24-32.

I agree with this, although the reply would be "then how do the Patriots keep winning?"


Very simple, they cheat, and the league is complicit.


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 Post subject: Re: More AB Drama / Trade Request merged thread
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Poltargyst wrote:
FromPittWithLove wrote:
He's talking about the need to restock through the draft and how the Steeler's haven't had the draft position to do so. If you follow Jim on twitter he's made it pretty clear that he thinks the fans have unreasonable expectations for the overall talent of the team given where they have drafted.

And his comment about draft budget was simply that teams are getting better at drafting so you don't get to clean up the mistakes they made when you sit at 24-32.

I agree with this, although the reply would be "then how do the Patriots keep winning?"

Patriots went through a bad stretch, too... 4 playoff wins in 8 seasons. After that, they re-jiggered their offensive philosophy to passing as extension of the run game, rebuilt their defense and won some more championships.

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 Post subject: Re: More AB Drama / Trade Request merged thread
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So far away from then to now.



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 Post subject: Re: More AB Drama / Trade Request merged thread
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Patriots went through a bad stretch, too... 4 playoff wins in 8 seasons. After that, they re-jiggered their offensive philosophy to passing as extension of the run game, rebuilt their defense and won some more championships.


You’ve said this in another thread at which point Jeemie called BS. Didn’t see a rebuttal from you in that thread.

Now you are saying it again.

This time I’m calling BS. Unless of course you are referring to the Mike Holovak era back in the 60s when they won but 1 playoff game over his 8 year coaching tenure.

That man was the longest tenured HC of the Patriots until BB showed up.

And he has most definitely NOT gone 8 years with “only” four wins like you claim. Not even close.

Shit, his first 8 seasons he won 14 playoff games to include 4 SB appreances with 3 victories.

His next 8 years he had 8 playoff wins to include a 1 and 1 record in the SB.

There is literally no way to manipulate the numbers and come up with only 4 wins over an 8 year span during BB’s tenure.

The guy has a 27-10 playoff win/loss during his time in NE with 8 SB appearances and 5 victories.

You are one of the smartest football guys here. But your purposeful misinformation in an attempt to make Tomlin’s shortcomings not look as bad has only made them look worse.

Show your data. What 8 year span did the Patriots only win 4 playoff games?

They have 12 playoff wins over these past 8 years. How many we have?


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 Post subject: Re: More AB Drama / Trade Request merged thread
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Patriots went through a bad stretch, too... 4 playoff wins in 8 seasons. After that, they re-jiggered their offensive philosophy to passing as extension of the run game, rebuilt their defense and won some more championships.


You’ve said this in another thread at which point Jeemie called BS. Didn’t see a rebuttal from you in that thread.

Now you are saying it again.

This time I’m calling BS. Unless of course you are referring to the Mike Holovak era back in the 60s when they won but 1 playoff game over his 8 year coaching tenure.

That man was the longest tenured HC of the Patriots until BB showed up.

And he has most definitely NOT gone 8 years with “only” four wins like you claim. Not even close.

Shit, his first 8 seasons he won 14 playoff games to include 4 SB appreances with 3 victories.

His next 8 years he had 8 playoff wins to include a 1 and 1 record in the SB.

There is literally no way to manipulate the numbers and come up with only 4 wins over an 8 year span during BB’s tenure.

The guy has a 27-10 playoff win/loss during his time in NE with 8 SB appearances and 5 victories.

You are one of the smartest football guys here. But your purposeful misinformation in an attempt to make Tomlin’s shortcomings not look as bad has only made them look worse.

Show your data. What 8 year span did the Patriots only win 4 playoff games?

They have 12 playoff wins over these past 8 years. How many we have?


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 Post subject: Re: More AB Drama / Trade Request merged thread
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Mike Tomlin’s career playoff record is 8-7.

With 5 (62.5%) of those wins occurring in 2008 & 2010.

Better not let this fish get away. We may never eat again...


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The “down period” B2B refers to for the Patriots included 3 visits to the AFCCG and a Super Bowl, and playoff appearances in 5 of the 6 seasons (he dmitted it was 6 seasons, not 8).

I guess it was a “down” time becaise it included a non-playoff year (when they still went 11-5 with a backup QB who hadn’t taken a snap since high school) and two one and done playoff appearances.

Tomlin has had four such one and dones, and four seasons of missed playoffs...in 12 seasons. So in 8 of Tomlin’s seasons, the Steelers won zero playoff games.

Belichick has missed the playoffs twice in the 18 years he’s had Brady.

Only once when Brady actually played.

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 Post subject: Re: More AB Drama / Trade Request merged thread
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955876 wrote:
Mike Tomlin’s career playoff record is 8-7.

With 5 (62.5%) of those wins occurring in 2008 & 2010.

Better not let this fish get away. We may never eat again...

Playoff wins in only 4 of his 12 seasons...
The guy is closer to Marv than Belicheck.

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FromPittWithLove wrote:
Read this article for more insight into what he's talking about regarding draft position:

https://247sports.com/nfl/pittsburgh-st ... 127080478/

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But I also believe that the NFL draft truly is the lifeblood of a team, and that the Steelers have won too much, too often, to have replenished their stock through the draft the way, say, the New Orleans Saints did when they endured four losing seasons out of five after winning their last Super Bowl.


It's cleary a shot at the fans and not the FO.


Agreed. Specifically, this forum.

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Still, I hope maybe now fans can see why I dismiss all of that "players' coach" nonsense. This locker room consists of one uncontrollable jerk, a QB who should be given the latitude that a 15th-year QB deserves in aligning with a coach, a layer of serious and hard-working veterans, scared-to-death reclamation projects, and a bunch of kids working as hard and quietly as they can to become NFL players.

I'm sure you'll believe what you want, though, because this team - that's been completely rebuilt from a group that played three Super Bowls in six years - has only won three playoff games since that last Super Bowl.

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 Post subject: Re: More AB Drama / Trade Request merged thread
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955876 wrote:
Mike Tomlin’s career playoff record is 8-7.

With 5 (62.5%) of those wins occurring in 2008 & 2010.

Better not let this fish get away. We may never eat again...


Dare I say.....









He won with Cowher’s team


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He absolutely did.

And been milking the gravy train ever since. All the while pulling the wool over the eyes of his owner and some fans alike.

Tomlin is a huge FRAUD...


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