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 Post subject: Offensive Line Appreciation Thread
PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:01 am 
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That group is downright nasty. Ben had all day to throw back there. I got really fired up when DeCastro got in Reid's face. These guys are on a mission this year and I think we can thank Bell for that.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:00 am 
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there was one play that Ben had time to read war and peace on a pass play it was unreal.


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steelmann58 wrote:
there was one play that Ben had time to read war and peace on a pass play it was unreal.

That was the 35 yard completion to AB.

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 Post subject: Re: Offensive Line Appreciation Thread
PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:14 am 
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steelmann58 wrote:
there was one play that Ben had time to read war and peace on a pass play it was unreal.


Ben was standing straight up and reading through the routes completely unconcerned about a Panthers player getting near him.

When they watch film this week, that has be the play that Munchak smiles the most at.

The stat that tells you Ben has 100% confidence in his line is the 22-25 last night.

He is stepping into throws.......

Great job by the line!!

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 Post subject: Re: Offensive Line Appreciation Thread
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Best unit Ben has ever had in front of him. Bar none.

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 Post subject: Re: Offensive Line Appreciation Thread
PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:51 am 
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Mike Munchak is an OL magician.

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 Post subject: Re: Offensive Line Appreciation Thread
PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:54 am 
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The O-Line is legitimately 7 deep....


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 Post subject: Re: Offensive Line Appreciation Thread
PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:13 pm 
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They are playing great. As the old saying goes....the offense goes as the O line goes. A good example is Dak Prescott a few years ago. He had all day to stand and deliver behind a great O line and everyone was anointing him the next HOF QB. Add some key injuries to his line and he's a below average-to-hot seat QB all of the sudden.

Munch is our MVP, imo. He's an O line whisperer!

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The last two weeks have showed that they can handle some pretty dominant fronts.

Being able to run it last week and last night (Conner was looking great before protocol) showed me a lot. They have been simply amazing, both run and pass blocking.


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 Post subject: Re: Offensive Line Appreciation Thread
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Feiler looks like a starter in this league. Strongly consider cutiting Gilbert in the offseason. Might want to hold on to Foster for another 2 years.


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 Post subject: Re: Offensive Line Appreciation Thread
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SP wrote:
Feiler looks like a starter in this league. Strongly consider cutiting Gilbert in the offseason. Might want to hold on to Foster for another 2 years.


The OL has not missed a beat with Gilbert out.

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Whatever Munch wants, short of the head coaching or OC gigs, he should get. He's worth his weight in Matt Feilers.


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 Post subject: Re: Offensive Line Appreciation Thread
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Havoc wrote:
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Feiler looks like a starter in this league. Strongly consider cutiting Gilbert in the offseason. Might want to hold on to Foster for another 2 years.


The OL has not missed a beat with Gilbert out.

I actually think Matt "Anchor" Feiler and DD play together a little better than Gilbert and DD.

I go back and forth on cutting or keeping Gilbert next year. Munch gives me confidence that we could cut him and use his $4.9M cap savings towards a D player, but, on the other hand, that same money is not that much to pay for top shelf depth (even if he only available 65% of the time) at a very key position.

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 Post subject: Re: Offensive Line Appreciation Thread
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They are playing great. As the old saying goes....the offense goes as the O line goes. A good example is Dak Prescott a few years ago. He had all day to stand and deliver behind a great O line and everyone was anointing him the next HOF QB. Add some key injuries to his line and he's a below average-to-hot seat QB all of the sudden.

Munch is our MVP, imo. He's an O line whisperer!

Fortunately for Steelers fans, Ben can make things work fairly well even with an inferior line in front of him.....but WOW!!!!! Give him a line like this and he can work magic.

On the dart to Brown he just stood there and went through his progressions - no dancing, no moving around just a 3-5 step drop and stand there looking for the best option to throw the ball to. It looked more like a drill in camp than an in game play. So fun to watch!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Offensive Line Appreciation Thread
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Feiler learned a good lesson from Julius Peppers that was embarrassing, but it will help going forward. Looked like Matt was too far in front of his hips and let Peppers' hands get into him before Feiler's punch landed.

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 Post subject: Re: Offensive Line Appreciation Thread
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SP wrote:
Feiler looks like a starter in this league. Strongly consider cutiting Gilbert in the offseason. Might want to hold on to Foster for another 2 years.

Feiler is playing very good football, 4 starts this year and 1 last year.
Can not recall penalties, but can not recall his name being called either.
Is there an NFL stat that tracks penalties for OL?

At 6'-6' and 330 lbs, he has the same measurables as Gilbert.
But he carries that weight much better than Gilbert, as he does not look 330.
Plus he is 4 years younger.

Add the 3M effect,
Munchak Magical Molding...........
Not only will Feiler continue to learn and improve, he is a good bet to take Chucks Okorafor ( 6'-6" / 320 ) and Zach Banner ( 6'-8" / 360 ) and turn those two young monsters into the next wave of OT depth / furture starters.

Hence, Villy and Feiler as starters, with Chucks and Banner as depth most likely makes the decision to move on from Gilbert and his injuries / salary, a very possible option.
Gilbert base salary for 2019 is $4.8 million.

Feiler, Chucks and Banner combined salary for 2018 is less than $1.6 million.

Chucks is under contract for 2019 at $620K
Both Feiler and Banner were paid $555k this year and are ERFA for 2019.

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 Post subject: Re: Offensive Line Appreciation Thread
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Munch is one of the best acquisitions the steelers have made in the last ten years. Or more.

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 Post subject: Re: Offensive Line Appreciation Thread
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COR-TEN wrote:
Munch is one of the best acquisitions the steelers have made in the last ten years. Or more.


Agreed.

The offense is so in sync blocking as a unit. A well oiled blocking machine.

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 Post subject: Re: Offensive Line Appreciation Thread
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MM has been the great especially with the UDFA and fitting them in and not missing a beat . I like to see in the future with BJ replacing Foster and Matt replacing Gilbert.


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 Post subject: Re: Offensive Line Appreciation Thread
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I hope they can dominate the jags dl next week.


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 Post subject: Re: Offensive Line Appreciation Thread
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Yeah, the O-line and Munchak are in great shape and there will be some turmoil in the offseason as I see them get rid of two starters.

I think that Ramon Foster will leave via free agency. If the Steelers wanted to keep him he would have been given a new contract extension this year, it isn't like they did not have the money to do so.

Gilbert will be cut or traded. Last season he was suspended for 4 games for PEDs, this year he has missed starts to injury. Last season he was also grumbling about his contract and not being paid enough compared to other top RTs in the game.

We have Matt Feiler as our new super sub/swing tackle and I think that our 3rd rounder Chucks will become that starting RT in 2019. Also don't forget that former 4th rounder Jerald Hawkins is still with the team.

BJ Finney is being heralded as the starter to slip into Foster's spot but don't sleep on somebody like Patrick Morris. They stashed him on the practice squad but he was one of the most athletic centers to come out in 10 years and is my dark horse favorite to give Finney competition for that G spot. I think Munchak can harness Morris athleticism and teach him how to be a great guard, sort of an equivalent of Minnesota's Randall McDaniel back in the day. A smaller, ultra athletic guard.

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 Post subject: Re: Offensive Line Appreciation Thread
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Havoc wrote:
COR-TEN wrote:
Munch is one of the best acquisitions the steelers have made in the last ten years. Or more.


Agreed.

The offense is so in sync blocking as a unit. A well oiled blocking machine.

What's really telling for me is how guys off the bench get in seamlessly and play well enough not allowing any drop off. Finney last night in place of Pouncey, Feiler in place of Gilbert and Okorafor in as an extra OLine (Hubbards old position) just manhandling DLinemen and LB'ers. Yeah this OLine is light years away from the days of Colon, Kemoeatu, Legursky, Scott, Essex, Simmons, Adams...., you all get the point.

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 Post subject: Re: Offensive Line Appreciation Thread
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Steelafan77 wrote:
Havoc wrote:
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Munch is one of the best acquisitions the steelers have made in the last ten years. Or more.


Agreed.

The offense is so in sync blocking as a unit. A well oiled blocking machine.

What's really telling for me is how guys off the bench get in seamlessly and play well enough not allowing any drop off. Finney last night in place of Pouncey, Feiler in place of Gilbert and Okorafor in as an extra OLine (Hubbards old position) just manhandling DLinemen and LB'ers. Yeah this OLine is light years away from the days of Colon, Kemoeatu, Legursky, Scott, Essex, Simmons, Adams...., you all get the point.

Does that mean I don't get to see any more butt blocks?

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 Post subject: Re: Offensive Line Appreciation Thread
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You are correct with Morris.


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