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 Post subject: OK...trade Bell to the Eagles now
PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:19 pm 
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They are desperate and may just pay for a rental now.

Do it.

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 Post subject: Re: OK...trade Bell to the Eagles now
PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:21 pm 
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As a matter of fact, that very trade was just suggested on 6 ABC.

Now...how to convince Bell to do it...

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 Post subject: Re: OK...trade Bell to the Eagles now
PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:28 pm 
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Jeemie wrote:
As a matter of fact, that very trade was just suggested on 6 ABC.

Now...how to convince Bell to do it...


I can see Bell refusing to cooperate out of spite. And I don't think Philly is glamorous enough for him. If it were Miami, then maybe.


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 Post subject: Re: OK...trade Bell to the Eagles now
PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:41 pm 
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Great point. Just heard this on Sirius on the way home.

It makes sense. I dont get all the fine print.


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 Post subject: Re: OK...trade Bell to the Eagles now
PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:08 pm 
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Not that anyone knows what's in his head, but at this point why would Bell show-up before the trade deadline? If you're trying to avoid injury, then why not sit out the maximum 10 weeks?

Plus if he does that, there's a good chance they just rescind the tag. Then he has his own little FA period, and could possibly gouge a desperate playoff contender with some money to throw around.

If there was a team he liked and thought was a good fit, maybe he'd come in for a trade. But I just don't see where the incentive is at this point for him to come in before Wk10.

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 Post subject: Re: OK...trade Bell to the Eagles now
PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:23 pm 
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Not that anyone knows what's in his head, but at this point why would Bell show-up before the trade deadline? If you're trying to avoid injury, then why not sit out the maximum 10 weeks?

Plus if he does that, there's a good chance they just rescind the tag. Then he has his own little FA period, and could possibly gouge a desperate playoff contender with some money to throw around.

If there was a team he liked and thought was a good fit, maybe he'd come in for a trade. But I just don't see where the incentive is at this point for him to come in before Wk10.


With a new team he’d probably have somewhat lighter workload initially because it would take a few weeks to get acclimated with a new offensive system. So for him the incentive would be to start collecting checks again while having an initial light workload while he gets up to speed with his new team.

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 Post subject: Re: OK...trade Bell to the Eagles now
PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:46 pm 
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Eagles restructure Fletcher Cox deal, but no plans for Le'Veon Bell trade http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2493 ... bell-trade
So if and when Bell does return this can be re-visited. Until then, not a damn thing can happen. If (A Very Big IF) Bell agrees to trade then the Steelers have to get at least a 3rd round draft pick for the trade to be fair value. JMO

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 Post subject: Re: OK...trade Bell to the Eagles now
PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:15 pm 
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I made a post a week ago or so pointing out 6 teams that had space under the salary cap to trade for Bell once he signs his tender.

Philly was not on that list. They are just $4,326,000 under the cap.

If Bell signed his tender today, and was traded to Philly, how do they fit him under their salary cap??

Remember a team can't give him a new contract, they have to inherit that franchise tag number, the games left on it and that would be what, $9.4 million?

So, the Eagles are only $4.3 million under the cap and would have to immediately cut some players, restructure some players to free up $5 million at least, and honestly it would have to be more like $7-8 million because most teams like to have a cushion.

Are the Eagles going to do that and give up a high draft pick???

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 Post subject: Re: OK...trade Bell to the Eagles now
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Ajayi placed on IR. They need a RB now.


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 Post subject: Re: OK...trade Bell to the Eagles now
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Not happening according to numerous sources


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 Post subject: Re: OK...trade Bell to the Eagles now
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Scunge wrote:
I made a post a week ago or so pointing out 6 teams that had space under the salary cap to trade for Bell once he signs his tender.

Philly was not on that list. They are just $4,326,000 under the cap.

If Bell signed his tender today, and was traded to Philly, how do they fit him under their salary cap??

Remember a team can't give him a new contract, they have to inherit that franchise tag number, the games left on it and that would be what, $9.4 million?

So, the Eagles are only $4.3 million under the cap and would have to immediately cut some players, restructure some players to free up $5 million at least, and honestly it would have to be more like $7-8 million because most teams like to have a cushion.

Are the Eagles going to do that and give up a high draft pick???


didn't they free up like 6 million in the Cox restructure? So does that put them at 10-11 million under?


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 Post subject: Re: OK...trade Bell to the Eagles now
PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:13 am 
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steelmann58 wrote:
Not happening according to numerous sources


probably the same "sources" that said Bell would report to the team to start the season

ie, "sources" are usually full of shit

Eagles re-structured Cox and Ajayi is on IR. Now they have the cap space.

They are DEFINITELY in play for L. Bell.


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 Post subject: Re: OK...trade Bell to the Eagles now
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Steelafan77 wrote:
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Eagles restructure Fletcher Cox deal, but no plans for Le'Veon Bell trade http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2493 ... bell-trade

Something “Shady” about this


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 Post subject: Re: OK...trade Bell to the Eagles now
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I could be wrong, but you actually CAN sign Bell to a 1-yr deal in place of the tag. Not sure if you can change the total number, but for the right trade offer PIT could basically restructure that deal to pay him a SB to lower his remaining salary number for another team to fit under the cap.

Or a team can just restructure an existing contract.

I don't think the money will be a sticking point. It's a game of high stakes poker up until the trade deadline. In some respects, I can see renting Bell for part of the year on a championship run is more preferable [i.e. trade] to a long-term deal. In other words, if I'm a GM I maybe don't want to give Bell his $80M deal, but I might be interested in $7-$8M for the rest of the year.

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 Post subject: Re: OK...trade Bell to the Eagles now
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Not sure we see a trade at this point just MO


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 Post subject: Re: OK...trade Bell to the Eagles now
PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:15 am 
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steelmann58 wrote:
Not sure we see a trade at this point just MO


Has to be a rare and tough thing to deal with as a GM.

You're trying to negotiate conditional trade offers, with no idea if you can get Bell to agree to come in and sign (he can wait to sign until after the trade deadline).

Then you have your contingency plan. If you can't trade him, or he waits out the deadline, then what? I suppose you just cross that bridge when you come to it, but you'll have to weigh paying him $855k with respect to team chemistry and playoff chances.

I suppose they'll just play it safe and let him sign his deal if there's any hope of making the playoffs. That way if you do make the playoffs and Conner gets hurt, you have depth. Colbert kicks the can to Tomlin and lets him figure out what to do with Bell.

A lot really depends on their record, but at 8 even 10 wks PIT probably will neither be a lock nor eliminated from the playoffs.

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 Post subject: Re: OK...trade Bell to the Eagles now
PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:47 am 
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steel wrote:
steelmann58 wrote:
Not happening according to numerous sources


probably the same "sources" that said Bell would report to the team to start the season

ie, "sources" are usually full of shit

Eagles re-structured Cox and Ajayi is on IR. Now they have the cap space.

They are DEFINITELY in play for L. Bell.


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 Post subject: Re: OK...trade Bell to the Eagles now
PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:25 am 
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Steelafan77 wrote:
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Eagles restructure Fletcher Cox deal, but no plans for Le'Veon Bell trade http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2493 ... bell-trade
So if and when Bell does return this can be re-visited. Until then, not a damn thing can happen. If (A Very Big IF) Bell agrees to trade then the Steelers have to get at least a 3rd round draft pick for the trade to be fair value. JMO

That would be the Eagles correct response to the question of interest in Bell.
No team is gonna hurt their chances in a trade value for Bell.

But Bell should be an option, as should Shady, as Drama mentions above.

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 Post subject: Re: OK...trade Bell to the Eagles now
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Everyone so willing to give up a premier running back and premier wide receiver lately. Like this kind of talent just falls of trees. And in return they want "draft picks" so they can pick their favorite kid in shorts come spring in the chance he becomes a good player, eventually.


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 Post subject: Re: OK...trade Bell to the Eagles now
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Miter Saw wrote:
Everyone so willing to give up a premier running back and premier wide receiver lately. Like this kind of talent just falls of trees. And in return they want "draft picks" so they can pick their favorite kid in shorts come spring in the chance he becomes a good player, eventually.


I don't know. Always felt like WR and RB are kind of a commodity - it's the OL and QB that make the offense go.

And we have a lot of talent and depth at both positions. But we need a ton of help on defense.

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 Post subject: Re: OK...trade Bell to the Eagles now
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https://www.bigcatcountry.com/2018/10/8/17951934/jacksonville-jaguars-trade-leveon-bell

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 Post subject: Re: OK...trade Bell to the Eagles now
PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:34 pm 
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$3,828,423 is the current cap room for the Eagles.

Brandon Graham for LBell makes some sense.

Trading Graham's salary would offset the Bell trade and leave Philly with something like $1.5M salary cap. Graham is a FA at the end of the year, and they have Josh Sweat, Chris Long, and Michael Bennett behind him.

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 Post subject: Re: OK...trade Bell to the Eagles now
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GreekSteel wrote:

Jamaal Charles - not Lev Bell

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 Post subject: Re: OK...trade Bell to the Eagles now
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The #Eagles have reached out to the #Bills about a possible trade for LeSean McCoy, per source. Philly just lost RB Jay Ajayi for the season due to a torn ACL. McCoy spent the first 6 seasons of his career with the Eagles and is the franchise all-time leading rusher. https://twitter.com/4JoshReed/status/10 ... 8985907200

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 Post subject: Re: OK...trade Bell to the Eagles now
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