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 Post subject: Injury Update
PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2018 9:55 pm 
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Steelers TE Xavier Grimble underwent surgery to repair ligament in thumb/wrist area, per source. The hope is a Week 1 return but will be out a few weeks. Team already thin at TE with Vance McDonald nursing a foot injury https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN/status/ ... 4996965376
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After brief stint in concussion protocol, Ben Roethlisberger is practicing in full Saturday, including his normal rugby ball warm up routine. https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN/status/ ... 8358864896

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 Post subject: Re: Injury Update
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Well, you have Bucky Hodges, Jaylen Samuel, and Pharoah McKeever or whatever the hell his name is. Opportunity for someone to get some TE reps.

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 Post subject: Re: Injury Update
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Sign a new TE at cutdowns. That 4th string TE from Green Bay was pretty good. He was killing our secondary. Get ready to replace Old McDonald who is stealing a paycheck. Due like 5M next year.


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 Post subject: Re: Injury Update
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Sign a new TE at cutdowns. That 4th string TE from Green Bay was pretty good. He was killing our secondary. Get ready to replace Old McDonald who is stealing a paycheck. Due like 5M next year.


Getting these TEs with lethal pass catching and game changing potential only to have them stand around on crutches all the time fricking sucks.

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 Post subject: Re: Injury Update
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Steelergenie wrote:
Sign a new TE at cutdowns. That 4th string TE from Green Bay was pretty good. He was killing our secondary. Get ready to replace Old McDonald who is stealing a paycheck. Due like 5M next year.


He'll be a cap casualty next year.


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 Post subject: Re: Injury Update
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Still Lit wrote:
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Sign a new TE at cutdowns. That 4th string TE from Green Bay was pretty good. He was killing our secondary. Get ready to replace Old McDonald who is stealing a paycheck. Due like 5M next year.


Getting these TEs with lethal pass catching and game changing potential only to have them stand around on crutches all the time fricking sucks.


Does anyone know what is wrong with McDonald? All I have seen is that he has a "foot" injury, with no further detail.


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 Post subject: Re: Injury Update
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Grimble is out at least to the first regular season game and it could be more. No further updates on McDonalds foot injury. He gets more injuries than Evil Kenival. Besides Outlaw, no other TE has regular season experience. Time for a roster move?


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 Post subject: Re: Injury Update
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Still Lit wrote:
Steelergenie wrote:
Sign a new TE at cutdowns. That 4th string TE from Green Bay was pretty good. He was killing our secondary. Get ready to replace Old McDonald who is stealing a paycheck. Due like 5M next year.


Getting these TEs with lethal pass catching and game changing potential only to have them stand around on crutches all the time fricking sucks.


McDonald had aptly filled the shoes of LaDarius Green.

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 Post subject: Re: Injury Update
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It is indeed frustrating. A healthy McDonald = win v Pats and #1 seed. Healthy Green 2015 could've and likely would've ended very differently.


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 Post subject: Re: Injury Update
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W&M_Steeler wrote:
Still Lit wrote:
Steelergenie wrote:
Sign a new TE at cutdowns. That 4th string TE from Green Bay was pretty good. He was killing our secondary. Get ready to replace Old McDonald who is stealing a paycheck. Due like 5M next year.


Getting these TEs with lethal pass catching and game changing potential only to have them stand around on crutches all the time fricking sucks.


Does anyone know what is wrong with McDonald? All I have seen is that he has a "foot" injury, with no further detail.


Will anyone be surprised if “foot” ends up meaning Lisfranc? I won’t.

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 Post subject: Re: Injury Update
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Getting these TEs with lethal pass catching and game changing potential only to have them stand around on crutches all the time fricking sucks.[/quote]

Does anyone know what is wrong with McDonald? All I have seen is that he has a "foot" injury, with no further detail.[/quote]

Will anyone be surprised if “foot” ends up meaning Lisfranc? I won’t.[/quote]

No, not at all.

I feel McDonald is closer to seeing IR than he is the field.


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 Post subject: Re: Injury Update
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Dale Lolley said "His issue is plantar fasciitis, which is painful but not something that should hinder him in the regular season."


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 Post subject: Re: Injury Update
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Still Lit wrote:
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Does anyone know what is wrong with McDonald? All I have seen is that he has a "foot" injury, with no further detail.


Will anyone be surprised if “foot” ends up meaning Lisfranc? I won’t.


That's exactly what I'm afraid of. But if that's the case, then I wonder why they haven't yet put him on IR.

My other thought is that it might be plantar fasciitis, and they're keeping him off his feet to help the swelling subside.

EDIT: just saw jewelsong's post. PF is something that never really goes away unless you stop high impact activities (e.g. running), so I hope that he doesn't have a severe case.


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 Post subject: Re: Injury Update
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EDIT: just saw jewelsong's post. PF is something that never really goes away unless you stop high impact activities (e.g. running), so I hope that he doesn't have a severe case.


bathe him in vagisil and get him on the field!

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 Post subject: Re: Injury Update
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Vance McDonald on the field but not dressed today. It's been 22 days since he last practiced.
Safeties Marcus Allen and Sean Davis in pads. Good signs for both.
Dan McCullers isn't suited up today. T.J. Watt is in pads. We'll see what his level of participation is.
Players being introduced. Okorafor suited up. Hurt shoulder in Thursdays game vs GB.
Matt Feiler working 3rd team center today. Haven't spotted rookie Patrick Morris, who got hurt vs GB.
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 Post subject: Re: Injury Update
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McDonald has a chronic vaginal strain and it's getting old. JFC.

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 Post subject: Re: Injury Update
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jewelsongs wrote:
Dale Lolley said "His issue is plantar fasciitis, which is painful but not something that should hinder him in the regular season."


PF is no joke. As a long-time runner, I know it can sideline someone for weeks.


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 Post subject: Re: Injury Update
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Running back Stevan Ridley (undisclosed), safety Marcus Allen (hamstring), cornerback Mike Hilton (undisclosed), running back Fitz Toussaint (knee), safety Morgan Burnett (undisclosed), center Patrick Morris (undisclosed), guard Ramon Foster (knee), offensive tackle Chukwuma Okorafor (shoulder), Brown (quad), tight end Xavier Grimble (wrist), tight end Vance McDonald (foot), outside linebacker T.J. Watt (hamstring), and defensive tackle Dan McCullers (hamstring) were among those who didn’t take part in 11-on-11 drills. https://www.steelers.com/news/steps-tak ... -necessary

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 Post subject: Re: Injury Update
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Still Lit wrote:
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Does anyone know what is wrong with McDonald? All I have seen is that he has a "foot" injury, with no further detail.


Will anyone be surprised if “foot” ends up meaning Lisfranc? I won’t.


That's exactly what I'm afraid of. But if that's the case, then I wonder why they haven't yet put him on IR.

My other thought is that it might be plantar fasciitis, and they're keeping him off his feet to help the swelling subside.

EDIT: just saw jewelsong's post. PF is something that never really goes away unless you stop high impact activities (e.g. running), so I hope that he doesn't have a severe case.


Actually, it can be put to rest. Stretching, good inserts, rolling out the ball of the foot with a tennis ball, rest & wearing the right shoes all help. I've had PF a few times and yes it sidelines you for a few weeks. The way it becomes chronic? By doing nothing but resting. PF is primarily caused by folks putting to much weight on the arch of their feet, most commonly called: over-pronation. It is exacerbated by having the wrong shoe fit. In cleats, this means a good insert to correct. If it isn't corrected? You get too much emphasis & weight on your arches when you run and yeah bad things happen from there.


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 Post subject: Re: Injury Update
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Actually, it can be put to rest. Stretching, good inserts, rolling out the ball of the foot with a tennis ball, rest & wearing the right shoes all help. I've had PF a few times and yes it sidelines you for a few weeks. The way it becomes chronic? By doing nothing but resting. PF is primarily caused by folks putting to much weight on the arch of their feet, most commonly called: over-pronation. It is exacerbated by having the wrong shoe fit. In cleats, this means a good insert to correct. If it isn't corrected? You get too much emphasis & weight on your arches when you run and yeah bad things happen from there.


All those types treatments, plus several cortizone shots, did nothing for my PF. I had to give up running and jogging and wear an air boot for 6 weeks to make my PF subside.

McDonald is a world class athlete, and I trust that the Steelers have world class doctors and trainers to help McDonald, but PF can be a stubborn annoyance.


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 Post subject: Re: Injury Update
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I had plantar fasciitis my junior year of college football and ended up playing half of the season with it. It actually hurts less while you're exercising - the real bitch is right after you're done.

I don't know if there are different grades (it's a torn tendon I believe), but I got a cortisone shot after the season ended and was playing pickup basketball 48 hours after that pain-free.


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 Post subject: Re: Injury Update
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[quote="steelclan”]Actually, it can be put to rest. Stretching, good inserts, rolling out the ball of the foot with a tennis ball, rest & wearing the right shoes all help. I've had PF a few times and yes it sidelines you for a few weeks. The way it becomes chronic? By doing nothing but resting. PF is primarily caused by folks putting to much weight on the arch of their feet, most commonly called: over-pronation. It is exacerbated by having the wrong shoe fit. In cleats, this means a good insert to correct. If it isn't corrected? You get too much emphasis & weight on your arches when you run and yeah bad things happen from there.[/quote]

I used to use a golf ball. It did wonders for me when I used to run a lot. Having flat arches doesn’t help, either. And I agree. The pain is after the work out.

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 Post subject: Re: Injury Update
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I had PF from working my ass off being on my feet nonstop on concrete floors. I went through rounds of cortisone shots until the Dr said no more, I had to have surgery/fasciotomy.

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 Post subject: Re: Injury Update
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Running back Stevan Ridley (undisclosed), safety Marcus Allen (hamstring), cornerback Mike Hilton (undisclosed), running back Fitz Toussaint (knee), safety Morgan Burnett (undisclosed), center Patrick Morris (undisclosed), guard Ramon Foster (knee), offensive tackle Chukwuma Okorafor (shoulder), Brown (quad), tight end Xavier Grimble (wrist), tight end Vance McDonald (foot), outside linebacker T.J. Watt (hamstring), and defensive tackle Dan McCullers (hamstring) were among those who didn’t take part in 11-on-11 drills. https://www.steelers.com/news/steps-tak ... -necessary


Probably easier to list those that are practicing...

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 Post subject: Re: Injury Update
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I don't hold out much hope for McDonald. He got hurt every month during the regular season last year and missed time. Some guys are just injury prone. I wouldn't count on him contributing much to the team this season.

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