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 Post subject: Is Shade Tree Going to make the 53?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:12 pm 
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He's playing with more intensity and getting off blocks. Enough for back up nose?


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 Post subject: Re: Is Shade Tree Going to make the 53?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:56 pm 
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6 DL are usually kept.

Heyward
Hargrave
Tuit

Alualu
Walton.

Big Dan, Rookie Frazier or somone who comes out of nowhere for that last spot.

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 Post subject: Re: Is Shade Tree Going to make the 53?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:44 pm 
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Sure, why not? Every team needs a big fat pussy to gang up on.

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 Post subject: Re: Is Shade Tree Going to make the 53?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:52 pm 
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I'm still holding out for my wet dream scenerio:

Walton, Sensenbaugh and Eli Rodgers to the Rams along with a Colts 2nd round pick next draft. Leveon Bell to the Colts with a new Gurly matching contract. Aaron Donald back home in Pgh where he belongs.


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 Post subject: Re: Is Shade Tree Going to make the 53?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:39 pm 
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If he has actually improved why not?

I imagine trying to move a man of his size is a tough task for even the best lineman.

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 Post subject: Re: Is Shade Tree Going to make the 53?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:41 pm 
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Steelersfan wrote:
I'm still holding out for my wet dream scenerio:

Walton, Sensenbaugh and Eli Rodgers to the Rams along with a Colts 2nd round pick next draft. Leveon Bell to the Colts with a new Gurly matching contract. Aaron Donald back home in Pgh where he belongs.

Donald could get paid more than LeVeon so I’m not sure how that would work with the current cap situation.

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 Post subject: Re: Is Shade Tree Going to make the 53?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:20 pm 
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This is getting to be like the “Bettis is in the best shape of his career”, year after year saga. “Big Dan is really opening eyes in this camp”...yada yada yada...
The guy sucks, soft as a babies behind, cut his ass and get over it.

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 Post subject: Re: Is Shade Tree Going to make the 53?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:40 pm 
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I been rooting for Big Dan think maybe the light went on


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 Post subject: Re: Is Shade Tree Going to make the 53?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:15 am 
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steelmann58 wrote:
I been rooting for Big Dan think maybe the light went on

The light comes on when the fridge door opens.
Goes off when the door closes.
We think.

Kidding aside.
Rooting for him as well, as I never root against a PS.
Maybe Mitchell had the kid thinking too much, therefore watching more than reacting.
Maybe Dunbar will see something in this mountain and light a fire?
The middle was too soft last year against the run.

Lets hope he turns his career into something.

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 Post subject: Re: Is Shade Tree Going to make the 53?
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I think that once this season is over there are going to be many, many people scratching their heads going who knew that ALL of our defensive linemen were THIS good!

But of course it will be the same defensive linemen for the most part from last year so what was the difference? Coaching and scheme. I have been calling for John Mitchell to be replaced for years and they finally did it with the hiring of Karl Dunbar. I was calling for them to hire a younger coach with more experience with the modern game, that knew how to get his players to not just be 2-gap run stuffers but fearsome pass rushers. Mitchell I thought had antiquated notions and ideas that were out of touch with today's NFL.

If you don't believe me then how come Cam Heyward went to Tomlin and got his permission/blessing to seek training/coaching on how to be a better pass rusher in the offseason? Why did Cam have to do that? Why didn't Mitchell give him everything he needed coaching-wise? Something was definitely wrong and it was not the players.

The Steelers were on a bit of a roll, drafting very good defensive linemen, investing high draft picks and yet some of them are not developing as they should and I place the blame squarely on the coaching. And the Steelers seem to agree with that as well, as Mitchell was replaced with Dunbar.

So, it does not surprise me that Dan is playing better this camp. I expect Tuitt and Hargrave and Walton to all have elevated games as well. Here is the thing though, why does it have to be an either or situation with Shade Tree and Frazier? Why can't this team carry more defensive linemen this year? Why can't they play more 4-3 looks, have more of a rotation and keep players fresh?

What purpose does it serve to carry a 5th OLB or a 5th ILB, to carry 9-10 linebackers any longer? I can understand when they did that 10 years ago because of the traditional 3-4 defense that we played. But now in 2018? Those 10 linebackers are overkill when this team is transitioning to a more hybrid sub package scheme.

Why can't the defensive roster be 7 defensive linemen, 8 linebackers and 10 defensive backs? In that scenario you carry an extra DL, so both Frazier and Big Dan make the team.

Or they go with 6 defensive linemen, 8 linebackers and 11 defensive backs? In that scenario you carry an extra defensive back who is perhaps a designated hybrid S/LB. Either way you are transforming the makeup of the roster for the new type of defenses that we are going to play.

To simply say they are going to do the customary, typical 6, 9, 10 breakdown of the roster because that is what they have always done rings false to me now in 2018. The game is different, how they want to play defense is different, nothing is set in stone.

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