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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:11 pm 
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I wonder how many QB sneaks we see during the CLE game? I'm talking both sides.....because I still can't believe Haley would have overruled both Ben AND Tomlin to not run the sneak.

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This year I think Hunter is going to surprise some folks here. He's a late bloomer, immature kid. He will blossom and grow steadily from here. Will he be Randy Moss? No, but he will be a very nice WR3-4 this year with the potential to grow into a very good WR2 if he keeps working at it.

Bostic will be your starter, when healthy, he's underrated. Dirty Red will be a ST ace along with Chick and Nix.

Man, I hope the new DL coach can figure out a way to get Big Dan to play to his full physical potential; that would be awesome. Big Dan is another very late bloomer imo. He, like Hunter, has always reminded of a kid that was 3-4 years behind (mentally/emotionally) the guys that become grown-ass, football playin' men at ages 23-25.

Let me know if he blossoms before age 30.

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Sounds lime Rudolph is starting to show out.


He had better play well with his college teammate...

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I pretty much want to see Rudolph the whole preseason.

I’d have Ben out there for warmups and that’s it.


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StillMadAtSlobber wrote:
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This year I think Hunter is going to surprise some folks here. He's a late bloomer, immature kid. He will blossom and grow steadily from here. Will he be Randy Moss? No, but he will be a very nice WR3-4 this year with the potential to grow into a very good WR2 if he keeps working at it.

Bostic will be your starter, when healthy, he's underrated. Dirty Red will be a ST ace along with Chick and Nix.

Man, I hope the new DL coach can figure out a way to get Big Dan to play to his full physical potential; that would be awesome. Big Dan is another very late bloomer imo. He, like Hunter, has always reminded of a kid that was 3-4 years behind (mentally/emotionally) the guys that become grown-ass, football playin' men at ages 23-25.

Let me know if he blossoms before age 30.

:lol: Seriously though (I know unpublicized details of his upbringing), while he's physically mature (26-27), mentally, he's a few years behind. He will make positive steps this year, but again, he's a WR3-4 making around league minimum. What do you want, AB 2.0? He's the kind of player/person Tomlin has a real chance to help grow/mature.


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SNR... stated Washington has looked good getting in and out of his breaks.


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DP39 wrote:
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This year I think Hunter is going to surprise some folks here. He's a late bloomer, immature kid. He will blossom and grow steadily from here. Will he be Randy Moss? No, but he will be a very nice WR3-4 this year with the potential to grow into a very good WR2 if he keeps working at it.

Bostic will be your starter, when healthy, he's underrated. Dirty Red will be a ST ace along with Chick and Nix.

Man, I hope the new DL coach can figure out a way to get Big Dan to play to his full physical potential; that would be awesome. Big Dan is another very late bloomer imo. He, like Hunter, has always reminded of a kid that was 3-4 years behind (mentally/emotionally) the guys that become grown-ass, football playin' men at ages 23-25.

Let me know if he blossoms before age 30.

:lol: Seriously though (I know unpublicized details of his upbringing), while he's physically mature (26-27), mentally, he's a few years behind. He will make positive steps this year, but again, he's a WR3-4 making around league minimum. What do you want, AB 2.0? He's the kind of player/person Tomlin has a real chance to help grow/mature.


Yes, Tomlin has molded many young players into mature young professionals. His control of the locker room and team discipline is bar none. :lol:

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Yes, Tomlin has molded many young players into mature young professionals. His control of the locker room and team discipline is bar none. :lol:


Heyward, Tuitt, Foster, Pouncey, Decastro, Gay, Timmons, etc.

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Yes, Tomlin has molded many young players into mature young professionals. His control of the locker room and team discipline is bar none. :lol:


Heyward, Tuitt, Foster, Pouncey, Decastro, Gay, Timmons, etc.


Can you ask Tomlin to try that molding process again with Tuitt this season, being that he COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY SUCKED last year?

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 Post subject: Re: Camp
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Yes, Tomlin has molded many young players into mature young professionals. His control of the locker room and team discipline is bar none. :lol:


Heyward, Tuitt, Foster, Pouncey, Decastro, Gay, Timmons, etc.


Can you ask Tomlin to try that molding process again with Tuitt this season, being that he COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY SUCKED last year?

Being that he was playing with one arm, that isn't surprising.

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Yes, Tomlin has molded many young players into mature young professionals. His control of the locker room and team discipline is bar none. :lol:


Heyward, Tuitt, Foster, Pouncey, Decastro, Gay, Timmons, etc.


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Being that he was playing with one arm, that isn't surprising.


Let's see if he earns that big contract this year, since he'll finally be playing with 2 arms.

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Yes, Tomlin has molded many young players into mature young professionals. His control of the locker room and team discipline is bar none. :lol:


Heyward, Tuitt, Foster, Pouncey, Decastro, Gay, Timmons, etc.


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One example would be less than 7 examples.

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Yes, Tomlin has molded many young players into mature young professionals. His control of the locker room and team discipline is bar none. :lol:


Heyward, Tuitt, Foster, Pouncey, Decastro, Gay, Timmons, etc.


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Michell was a FA who was molded by Tom Cable.

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Terrell Edmunds perfectly swats away a pass that was right in Hunter’s hands. Textbook coverage in how he kept his eyes on the man and swatted through hands. #Steelers #dkps

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Antonio Brown practicing in full. Out there in team. #Steelers

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JuJu catches a tight pass in good coverage by Burns on the front pylon. #dkps #Steelers

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Brown is back and in full effect. Puts a double move on Joe Haden and gets open for an easy score. Says, “that’s how you do it young bucks!” To the DBs as he walks by. #dkps #Steelers


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Terrell Edmunds perfectly swats away a pass that was right in Hunter’s hands. Textbook coverage in how he kept his eyes on the man and swatted through hands. #Steelers #dkps


Good to hear, even if it's Hunter


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After an incomplete pass to Hunter, AB walks past DC Butler. Says, “Tell’em to stop doubling me coach!” Butler responds, “When you’re on the field, what do you expect?!” #Steelers #dkps
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Ben throws a rope on skinny post to JuJu. Over Burnett's head. #Steelers

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Dobbs fade to Washington right corner. Despite being held, leaps and comes down with catch. #Steelers

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Ben completed a deep pass to Hunter between Edmunds and Haden. Edmunds pulled up but was approaching as if he would hit Hunter if it was a live game. Tomlin immediately critiques to Edmunds, “Hey! Not in the head! Not with the head!” Coaching the new rule. #Steelers #dkps

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Wow. Rudolph fits deep ball between three defenders complete to JuJu. Then Burns picks him very next play. #Steelers

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Mason Rudolph gets first shot at 2 minute offense. Hits Smith-Schuster for 32-yard gain on first play. Artie Burns picks him off deflection of hands of Justin Thomas on second play. #Steelers #dkps


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 Post subject: Re: Camp
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LATROBE -- Cameron Sutton, a Steelers 2017 third-round pick who practices as an outside cornerback, slot corner, dimebacker and safety, also returned punts on Sunday. Mike Tomlin downplayed the significance of Sutton doing so.

"He's been working that since he's been here. He's always been a specialist. He did it at Tennessee. He returned both punts and kicks," Tomlin said. "Nothing new there."

For much of training camp Sutton has not returned punts, leaving only Quadree Henderson and Justin Thomas in the position. Neither Henderson nor Thomas is likely to make the team as a receiver, which they know. Sutton is a regular first-team defensive back in sub packages at practice and started in place of an injured Joe Haden last year.

Here's what else you missed if you weren't at Chuck Noll Field on Sunday, and maybe even if you were:

Antonio Brown beats, coaches Terrell Edmunds

The Steelers wore shells - not full pads - in Sunday's session, which typically means a shorter practice, naturally with less contact and an emphasis on individual drills. The highlight of receivers vs. defensive backs 1-on-1 was Brown pulling away from a largely game Edmunds with a light hesitation move before cruising down the left sideline for a touchdown pass from Landry Jones.

As both players jogged back upfield Brown coached up the first-round pick, telling parts of how and why he beat him.

The best of the other 1-on-1s
Damoun Patterson beat Brian Allen on a go-ball touchdown pass from Jones
Brown, with Ben Roethlisberger at quarterback, beat Joe Haden to the outside in the way he beats everybody to the outside
The drill shifted into 2-on-2s, where Justin Hunter beat Coty Sensabaugh over the middle
Darrius Heyward-Bey caught a pass in front of Edmunds, then punted the ball back toward the group of quarterbacks upfield

Jon Bostic gets even more reps While Bostic went from a second-team inside linebacker in the spring and the start of camp to splitting first-team reps with Tyler Matakevich, on Sunday Bostic took the vast majority - if not all - of the starting inside linebacker reps, when personnel called for two inside linebackers. Matakevich didn't seem to rotate in above the second string at all.

Daniel McCullers & the 5-year plan McCullers hardly played last year. Even when a backup-heavy lineup took the field against the Cleveland Browns with nothing to play for or lose in Week 17 he was left out of goal-line packages.

But McCullers has had a solid camp and a decent preseason showing. And on Sunday, he finished practice with the first-team defense.

A word of caution from Mike Tomlin "There's going to be unique rotations, particularly as we get into this thing. I want to see certain guys in certain situations. So that might mean minimizing some other guys. It's just a part of it. The big thing is at the end we're going to give everybody a fair evaluation. It might not be fair in terms of an allocation of reps, but we have knowledge about certain guys the we don't have about others, so from that standpoint everybody will get a fair opportunity."

James Conner and Stevan Ridley were held out of the latter portions of practice so, Tomlin said, he could look at some of the other, younger backs.

B.J. Finney is back The backup interior lineman returned from the contusion he suffered against the Philadelphia Eagles to rejoined the first-team offensive line at left guard. Matt Feiler filled in for him later in practice as, Tomlin said, the team is managing Finney's reps.

Marcus Gilbert also came back to practice after the birth of his child.

Pittsburgh's second-team offensive line was as follows (from left to right):
Chukwuma Okorafor-Patrick Morris-Larson Graham-R.J. Prince-Jake Rodgers.

The 7 shots

1. Roethlisberger missed Jesse James after the tight end appeared to run the wrong route.

2. Roethlisberger threw a ball incomplete intended for Jaylen Samuels.

3. Roethlisberger missed wide and shallow in front of the near-left corner of the end zone on a pass intended for Brown.

4. A high pass from Roethlisberger slipped through JuJu Smith-Schuster's hands.

5. Joshua Dobbs ran the ball in out of an empty backfield. Whether or not this counted as a score for the offense was heavily disputed. Quarterbacks can't be touched in practice.

6. Dobbs sent a high pass through Marcus Tucker's hands.

7. Samuels was split out to the left, matched up with L.J. Fort on a ball to the back-right pylon. Fort made an acrobatic catch and move to stay in bounds, completing what the defense celebrated as a rare shutout of the offense in the drill.

The 7 DBs Pittsburgh continued to practice the personnel package it's never played in a game. Haden and Artie Burns were the outside cornerbacks. Sutton and Mike Hilton defended inside eligible receivers to either side. Morgan Burnett took up a linebacker-esque position and Nat Berhe and Edmunds stayed further back in more traditional safety spots.

Sean Davis (groin) didn't practice Sunday.

Brown, Williams dance There's a lot of right hand slapping and some mild hip shaking. You're likely to see it soon. They probably aren't practicing to not do it on TV.

How the non-Brown punt returners fared Henderson, Thomas and Sutton divided the reps evenly and caught, fair caught or let the ball bounce on every punt except for one, which Thomas dropped.

Vance McDonald, long snapper The tight end, who still isn't practicing with a foot injury, worked on long snapping after Sunday's session.

"Nothing's changed," Tomlin said of McDonald's health status. "When it does significantly in terms of progress toward return to play I'll update you guys."

He hasn't practiced since the first week of camp.

OLB rotation With T.J. Watt (hamstring) still sidelined and Bud Dupree also not practicing (birth of child, concussion), Anthony Chickillo and Farrington Huguenin held down most of the first-team outside linebacker reps. Keion Adams did rotate in with the first group later in practice, though he spent much of his time working with the second string opposite Olasunkanmi Adeniyi.

Burns has some moments
Burns broke up a pass for Smith-Scuster from Ben Roethlisberger down the left sideline midway through practice. In a later period he locked up Hunter, Smith-Schuster then Smith-Schuster again.

Stephon Tuitt
He backpedaled across the field with a pad on his left arm, allowing Lavon Hooks to practice his pass rushing moves on the starting defensive lineman. Hooks spent last season on the practice squad and is fighting to make the bottom of the roster or at least do the same again.

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Injury update from yesterday's practice.

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T.J. Watt peels off away from pack after stretch and agility drills. Looks like he will be with conditioning coordinator Garret Giemont for another day.
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TJ Watt still not practicing but getting closer.
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B.J. Finney is back practicing just three days after sustaining a quad contusion.
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I see that Vance McDonald is taking the Ladarius Green approach to Training Camp.

Why are the TEs the Steelers manage to find always made of tissue paper?


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I see that Vance McDonald is taking the Ladarius Green approach to Training Camp.

Why are the TEs the Steelers manage to find always made of tissue paper?


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Yes, Tomlin has molded many young players into mature young professionals. His control of the locker room and team discipline is bar none. :lol:


Heyward, Tuitt, Foster, Pouncey, Decastro, Gay, Timmons, etc.


Mike Mitchell


Also...
Le'veon Bell tweets
Steelers looking ahead to Pats instead of focusing on Jags
Thumb up the ass waiting for Jesse James ruling
Antonio Brown Facebook Live
Antonio Brown consecutive game receiving record more important than cementing a win
Shall I go on?

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Jaylen Samuels stems to the outside before bursting up the middle and beating Jon Bostic for the catch.

McKever has a step on Keion Adams down the right seam. But Adams works hard and rips the ball out as McKever tries to bring it to his hip. Incomplete.

Decent jam by Adeniyi on Scotland-Williamson. Incomplete.

Samuels and Thomas run downfield along the right sideline. Maybe the throw was bad, or an incorrect route run, but Thomas with a pretty easy INT.

Thomas with a nice jam and then reaches his hand across to break up the in-cut throw for Samuels.

Toussaint has a step on Bostic downfield but the pass seemed a little far in front. Incomplete.

McKever swims over Adams, running vertically. Nice hands catch to finish the rep.

CSW runs through Adeniyi’s jam. Clean catch.

Samuels rips through Thomas. Beats him vertical but the pass is overthrown.

Bad exchange between Maurkice Pouncey and Mason Rudolph. Rudolph falls on it.

Rudolph heaves deep down the left sideline for Damoun Patterson. One of the top plays of camp, Burns – and I still don’t know how he did it – head barely turned trying to stay with Patterson, throwing up his right hand, cradling the ball into his chest as he’s in the air, and secures it to the ground. Insane play.

Playaction. Sutton blitz. Samuels sees him and picks it up initially but opens up his inside shoulder and Sutton gets through.

Bullet over the middle from Rudolph to Washington on a 10 yard dig. Washington reaches over his head to pluck the football.

Rudolph complete to JuJu on an out route left side. Samuels picks up a blitzing Vince Williams.

Bostic, the most vocal man on the field

Keion Adams whoops Scotland-Williamson off the edge. Rudolph throws it away.

Steelers defense now has 17 INTs in camp. Buzzing around the football like crazy this year. Let’s hope it translates.


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Sounds like Rudolph is working more with the 1s. Might see more of him Thursday although I get that Landry and Dobbs are essentially auditioning for the same role.

I think bostic gets better in this system. Big vacuum left by shaz but I like the bostic/ edmunds split the difference approach so far


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Only problem with combining Bostic and Edmunds to replace one Shazier is any good QB/OC can trap one of them on the field with no huddle at will, exposing Bostic against the pass or Edmunds against the run.


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