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 Post subject: Re: More from Deebo
PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:18 pm 
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Blaming Mitchell :lol: Your crusade for Tomlin is really discrediting. I do respect your never give up attitude like the unconditional love parents have for their child. Tomlin is just above average as a head coach. [In My Opinion]. Much Room For Improvement! Much Room! Belichick lost to a back type QB I agree. Something Tomlin does every year at least 3-4 times in the regular season and then again in the postseason. If the question was who is the best coach at losing to mediocre or below average talented teams? Tomlin would be the better coach out of the two. Or who is the better coach at talking in circles implementing what he thinks are sophisticated words in catch phrases? Yeah, than Tomlin is your man, but since this is a question of who is the consistently better coach At Actual Coaching A Winning Team/System year in and year out? Belichick is hands down Tomlin's superior. I can't believe I'm typing this shit. Anyway, Tomlin is who he is.


I'll give Belichick/Brady their due when the Pats* win an important game when Ernie Adams is locked in a closet in another area code. He and cheating are the reason the pats are great.


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 Post subject: Re: More from Deebo
PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:38 pm 
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Blaming Mitchell :lol: Your crusade for Tomlin is really discrediting. I do respect your never give up attitude like the unconditional love parents have for their child. Tomlin is just above average as a head coach. [In My Opinion]. Much Room For Improvement! Much Room! Belichick lost to a back type QB I agree. Something Tomlin does every year at least 3-4 times in the regular season and then again in the postseason. If the question was who is the best coach at losing to mediocre or below average talented teams? Tomlin would be the better coach out of the two. Or who is the better coach at talking in circles implementing what he thinks are sophisticated words in catch phrases? Yeah, than Tomlin is your man, but since this is a question of who is the consistently better coach At Actual Coaching A Winning Team/System year in and year out? Belichick is hands down Tomlin's superior. I can't believe I'm typing this shit. Anyway, Tomlin is who he is.


I'll give Belichick/Brady their due when the Pats* win an important game when Ernie Adams is locked in a closet in another area code. He and cheating are the reason the pats are great.


This.

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 Post subject: Re: More from Deebo
PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 6:33 pm 
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And again...no one here would argue Belichick is better than Tomlin.


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There can't just be one Adams on this planet. If Adams was figured into there winning as much as fans think every team would have an Ernie Adams in the fold. This is the copycat league after all. Say it ain't so Poltargyst! :P


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 Post subject: Re: More from Deebo
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
Jags shot their wad vs the Steelers and we never should have had to play them twice.

Also, Belichick never had to try and win with Mike Mitchell as his veteran safety.


Can you show me a photo of the gun to Mike Tomlin's head that forced him to play Mike Mitchell?

Thanks in advance.

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 Post subject: Re: More from Deebo
PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:55 pm 
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Mitchell was tomlins man
Until he wasn't

Bellicheck is a madman for the finer details, looks for every angle, cheats and adjusts to suit
Tomlin doesn't sweat the small stuff, is a slave to concepts and tried to cheat once.

Different strokes


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 Post subject: Re: More from Deebo
PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 10:44 pm 
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Read on Twitter that per Harrison, there would be 2 different defensive calls coming in from the sidelines at times.


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 Post subject: Re: More from Deebo
PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 11:17 pm 
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Please stop with the best coach of all-time BS. Anyone who cheats to that level doesn't deserve the title even if he is a great coach. Secondly, I've never seen a division like the AFC East that is so consistently shitty with no real QB play. That is a HUGE advantage that he has every year. It sets them up for byes and home field consistently.

There is no doubt he is a master at prepping a team and finding opponent weaknesses. His level of discipline and attention to detail is tremendous and Tomlin is garbage in this area. Of that, I have no doubt.

But, give Lombardi, Shula, Walsh or Noll the cupcake AFC East and Tom Brady at QB, along with Ernie Adams...and you would see the same results.

To me, Vince Lombardi is the greatest coach in NFL history bar none.


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 Post subject: Re: More from Deebo
PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 11:35 am 
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Again, how many times since 2007 has Belichick had a better defense than Tomlin? Belichick's recent defenses have been horrible.

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 Post subject: Re: More from Deebo
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
Again, how many times since 2007 has Belichick had a better defense than Tomlin? Belichick's recent defenses have been horrible.


Yawn

Did you enjoy Gronkowski catching pass after pass on the game winning drive against our “better defense” last year? And then the 2-pt conversion “in your face” style play that further illustrates Tomlin’s stupidity?

BB takes advantages of mismatches while Tomlin thinks it will all of a sudden change somehow .......instead of making serious in-game changes to defensive play-calling

Tomlin is a dope

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 Post subject: Re: More from Deebo
PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:36 pm 
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
alancac98 wrote:
He confirms it: Bellicheat >Tomlin

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/m/bb9ffe59-77a2-39e5-bdb6-49d68874e823/ss_james-harrison%3A-%27i%27ve-seen.html

Deebo's feeling are a bit hurt when it comes to Tomlin, but I think he hits the nail on the head really well here. We all knew this already so it should come as no surprise. Unfortunately for all Steeler fans, Tomlin has a job till he decides to leave it. I wonder if he will even read the article and what he reaction will be. I do know it will not change him in any way for the better of the team - Tomlin is too narcissistic! He likes being their buddy!

I find it deliciously ironic that James Harrison is criticizing the Steelers and Tomlin because players aren't all on the same page and doing what they're supposed to do... considering the biggest play of his career was... him not doing what he was supposed to do.

I don't think there's any joy in Belichick's way. WTF wants to play football like that, root for that? Fuck them and the horse they rode in on. I'll bet you, to a man, those Patriots with multiple rings would trade them all for one where they were allowed to enjoy the game they love to play.


I'll take that bet, B2B....I think you're dead wrong.


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 Post subject: Re: Deebo clarifies that water is wet and Tomlin sucks
PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 2:40 pm 
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
It's not necessarily coaching. The way he described it was more like a play was called by the green dot, and then before the play, Mike Mitchell called something different for coverage.

I mean, at that level of football, there are a lot of moving parts to a D, unless you're playing a ton of man with a vanilla 4 man rush. Which the steelers weren't.

I interpreted what he said as: the playcalls and adjustments the Steelers were trying to use exceeded the capabilities of the players being asked to communicte, adjust, and execute the calls.

You can ask Tomlin and Butler to dumb things down, or you can clear out guys who were not communicating and executing. They seem to have chosen the latter.


No- he described it as two different playcalls coming in from the sideline, B2B.

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 Post subject: Re: Deebo clarifies that water is wet and Tomlin sucks
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
It's not necessarily coaching. The way he described it was more like a play was called by the green dot, and then before the play, Mike Mitchell called something different for coverage.

I mean, at that level of football, there are a lot of moving parts to a D, unless you're playing a ton of man with a vanilla 4 man rush. Which the steelers weren't.

I interpreted what he said as: the playcalls and adjustments the Steelers were trying to use exceeded the capabilities of the players being asked to communicte, adjust, and execute the calls.

You can ask Tomlin and Butler to dumb things down, or you can clear out guys who were not communicating and executing. They seem to have chosen the latter.


No- he described it as two different playcalls coming in from the sideline, B2B.

Nah...Bruce Arians’ fault, Dick LeBeau’s fault, Todd Haley’s fault, Mike Mitchell’s fault...
Never, ever, EVER Mike Tomlin’s fault!!!

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 Post subject: Re: More from Deebo
PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2018 3:27 pm 
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""Mike Tomlin is good as a head coach," Harrison said. "He's a players' coach. I think he needs to be a little bit more disciplined."

A lot of people here - who aren't in the locker room, as B2B loves to point out - have been saying this for years.

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 Post subject: Re: More from Deebo
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""Mike Tomlin is good as a head coach," Harrison said. "He's a players' coach. I think he needs to be a little bit more disciplined."

A lot of people here - who aren't in the locker room, as B2B loves to point out - have been saying this for years.

I can agree with that, but that's not the same thing as saying "Mike Tomlin sucks" which is how some would interpret it.


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 Post subject: Re: More from Deebo
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""Mike Tomlin is good as a head coach," Harrison said. "He's a players' coach. I think he needs to be a little bit more disciplined

A bit ironic that James Harrison says Aviators needs to be more disciplined, when he was the biggest discipline problem last season... :lol:

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A bit ironic that James Harrison says Aviators needs to be more disciplined, when he was the biggest discipline problem last season... :lol:


This is a good point. How big of a problem/distraction must Harrison have had to be to actually get cut when NE is looking for LBers?

They did a good job of keeping that in house, because it's pretty extraordinary he got cut when you think about it all.

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 Post subject: Re: More from Deebo
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BTW...there’s also a difference between miscommunication and occasional improvisation on defense...so comparing what Harrison did in the Super Bowl to there being two plays being sent in from the sideline is kinda ridiculous.

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 Post subject: Re: More from Deebo
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Jeemie wrote:
BTW...there’s also a difference between miscommunication and occasional improvisation on defense...so comparing what Harrison did in the Super Bowl to there being two plays being sent in from the sideline is kinda ridiculous.


Right!! Another bogus defense of Tomlin by B2B.


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 Post subject: Re: More from Deebo
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Obviously there's less chance for confusion when you only send in 1 playcall.

It's also a lot easier to get that 1 playcall right when you cheat :cry:

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 Post subject: Re: More from Deebo
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Most folks posting on this discussion board agree Tomlin's lack of discipline has contributed to many avoidable locker room and on the field issues that have proved detrimental to the team's success. No, doesn't mean Tomlin sucks. Just means Tomlin is who he is. That said, Always room for improvement.


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 Post subject: Re: More from Deebo
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Steelafan77 wrote:
Most folks posting on this discussion board agree Tomlin's lack of discipline has contributed to many avoidable locker room and on the field issues that have proved detrimental to the team's success. No, doesn't mean Tomlin sucks. Just means Tomlin is who he is. That said, Always room for improvement.


A "players coach" that has numerous locker room and off-field problems sucks at his job.

I don't get everyone being so hell-bent on the Patriots cheating. The Giants twice (!) showed the only way to beat Brady.

How hard is it to repeatedly own a guy that took a decade to realize you must play man against the Patriots' fleet of midget receivers?

Tomlin is a fucking bum.


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 Post subject: Re: More from Deebo
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I think there's a large gulf between Belichick and bum. No matter what you think of Tomlin, he resides somewhere on the positive side of that gulf. He has warts, but he has some positives, as well. Just like Bill Cowher before him, who was also owned by Brady and Belichick.


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 Post subject: Re: More from Deebo
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Jobus Rum wrote:
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""Mike Tomlin is good as a head coach," Harrison said. "He's a players' coach. I think he needs to be a little bit more disciplined

A bit ironic that James Harrison says Aviators needs to be more disciplined, when he was the biggest discipline problem last season... :lol:

Yep, and all that history of the James Harrison Discipline Cancer certainly absolves Tomlin of all blame...

</sarca>

...but seriously folks...

Harrison got cut because he was vocal in pointing out the bullshit for what it was, and "Supreme Leader" Tomlin couldn't handle that kind of insubordination. :roll:

Obviously...

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