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 Post subject: Re: Dupy says he can deliver double digit sacks this season
PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:45 pm 
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Just so it's not Dookie. We had one of those.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:49 pm 
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Safety Morgan Burnett confirmed he did not take part in the first day of minicamp Tuesday because of injury. The veteran offseason acquisition downplayed the significance of the undisclosed injury, though, saying he “was fine.”

Jordan Dangerfield was taking first-team reps in Burnett's place during the first of three mandatory minicamp practices at UPMC Rooney Sports Complex.

Only three players on the roster have more NFL experience than Burnett, who spent his previous eight seasons with the Green Bay Packers.

Outside linebacker Bud Dupree said he took reps in 7-on-7 drills Tuesday but that he had aggravated a shoulder injury last week during organized team activities.

Training camp opens July 25 http://triblive.com/sports/steelers/137 ... s-minicamp
Hmm... hadn't heard anything about injuries till today. I guess it was bound to happen.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:06 pm 
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Dupe is also dealing with an injury more excuses coming


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 Post subject: Re: Dupy says he can deliver double digit sacks this season
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I think Aaron Jones has a better shot to get 10 sacks.


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Dupy is injured before he's put on the pads. Another Mitchell, all mouth and little action. He'll be stealing that fifth year option money.


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Steelergenie wrote:
Dupy is injured before he's put on the pads. Another Mitchell, all mouth and little action. He'll be stealing that fifth year option money.


He injured his shoulder during OTA's.......hmmmm. how the hell does that happen playing paddy cake in shorts with no pads. really.

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 Post subject: Re: Dupy says he can deliver double digit sacks this season
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Dupy is injured before he's put on the pads. Another Mitchell, all mouth and little action. He'll be stealing that fifth year option money.


This is his 4th season, if he does not play up to his potential, finally become that pass rusher, then the Steelers can, in essence, rescind that 5th year option and cut him before the start of that year. It is only guaranteed for injury, as in Shazier's case.

I know many think Bud can just take it easy and skate, that he has that $9.5 million coming in for next season, but it really isn't the case. This is the biggest year of his career. Do well, and you probably are going to see that 5th year option but more than that you will probably get a long term contract. Do badly and you will be cut and the Steelers will save themselves $9.5 million. There is no middle ground.

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 Post subject: Re: Dupy says he can deliver double digit sacks this season
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Dupy is injured before he's put on the pads. Another Mitchell, all mouth and little action. He'll be stealing that fifth year option money.


He injured his shoulder during OTA's.......hmmmm. how the hell does that happen playing paddy cake in shorts with no pads. really.

Was going to ask the same thing...WTF?!?

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Dupy? Do you just make up nicknames along with creating tons of threads? You must know STD.

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It's starting to be a bust of a pick


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Cam is the only guy on the roster I trust to get a push when it matters most.

You're up four, the opponent is driving, chaos on the field, everybody is holding, and Deebo, time and time again, blows the play up - by himself. Count the W.

How many wins did Deebo seal with a final drive pressure or a sack (usually a strip-sack)? A dozen? Twenty?

Deebo's late game heroics is a lot of the reason Tomlin still has a job.

That's the guy we need Dupree to be sometimes. He has ALL the gifts.


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Ask Cam who his clothier is and then fire Them... WTF? Pajamas? Sweats? :P



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Ask Cam who his clothier is and then fire Them... WTF? Pajamas? Sweats? :P



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Cam's outfit begs the question....what the fuck kind of bet did he lose? :lol:


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I hate to say it, but those that think Dupree will have a big year are engaging in nothing more than blind faith. There is nothing to indicate that Dupree will all of a sudden develop better bend, start to use his hands, develop countermoves, or play with a better motor. Those are all his weaknesses along with being fragile and easily hurt.

At this point, he's a serviceable OLB and nothing more. Comparing him to Joey Porter or Gildon for that matter is heresy. He's not even close to Jason Worilds before he became a missionary.

I've watched him for 3 years. I honestly remember him beating a RT soundly with good hand technique and bend ONCE. It was against Cam Erving on the Browns....and he sucks.

Put the pass rush aside for a second. Go rewatch his run defense versus Baltimore and Jacksonville last year. (I know I know the whole D sucked.) But, when he wasn't getting ragdolled or pancaked by a TE, he was taking terrible angles or just quitting on plays. It's downright depressing.


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franco32 wrote:
I hate to say it, but those that think Dupree will have a big year are engaging in nothing more than blind faith. There is nothing to indicate that Dupree will all of a sudden develop better bend, start to use his hands, develop countermoves, or play with a better motor. Those are all his weaknesses along with being fragile and easily hurt.

At this point, he's a serviceable OLB and nothing more. Comparing him to Joey Porter or Gildon for that matter is heresy. He's not even close to Jason Worilds before he became a missionary.

I've watched him for 3 years. I honestly remember him beating a RT soundly with good hand technique and bend ONCE. It was against Cam Erving on the Browns....and he sucks.

Put the pass rush aside for a second. Go rewatch his run defense versus Baltimore and Jacksonville last year. (I know I know the whole D sucked.) But, when he wasn't getting ragdolled or pancaked by a TE, he was taking terrible angles or just quitting on plays. It's downright depressing.

Since 2003, every 3-4 edge rusher with elite athletic profile of either mass-adjusted explosion or sub 7 3 cone and good straightline to shuttle ratio (i.e.: the two low risk groups of Waldo) has had at least one 10 sack season in the NFL, unless they got a career ending injury in first contract or got popped for steroids. So, not blind faith, just an educated guess that he'll get to double digits if he rushes enough, strictly on athleticism.

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Cam's outfit begs the question....what the fuck kind of bet did he lose? :lol:



This is exactly what I thought. LoL


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I think this move to the right side will not be fortunate for the Steelers. Color me skeptical. The guy barely was able to pressure from the left side [weak side] and that somehow indicates he's going to suddenly get it and mash LT's on his way to double digit sacks? I think we have a better chance at winning the lottery folks. I'll be happy to eat crow but I just am not convinced Dupree is anything other than a wash out. Looks like Tarzan plays like Jane.


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He's more likely to be delivering a pizza than double digit sacks


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SteelThrillsseeker wrote:
DP39 wrote:
Cam's outfit begs the question....what the fuck kind of bet did he lose? :lol:



This is exactly what I thought. LoL


That's the outfit from My Cousin Vinny. Marisa Tomei rocked it.
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He's more likely to be delivering a pizza than double digit sacks

Coffee all over the IPad... :lol: :lol: 8-)

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Ask Cam who his clothier is and then fire Them... WTF? Pajamas? Sweats? :P



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I'm guessing Lit admires his wardrobe.


It pains me that you have learned so little from the sartorial conversations in the general forum. If you’re going to wear a track suit, it has to be Fred Perry. Bill Murray demonstrates the look nicely.

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I think this move to the right side will not be fortunate for the Steelers. Color me skeptical. The guy barely was able to pressure from the left side [weak side] and that somehow indicates he's going to suddenly get it and mash LT's on his way to double digit sacks? I think we have a better chance at winning the lottery folks. I'll be happy to eat crow but I just am not convinced Dupree is anything other than a wash out. Looks like Tarzan plays like Jane.

he had 6 sacks and many more opportunities for sacks... in what world is that "was barely able to pressure".

You might want to step back and look at the context of the Steelers history in 3-4 since Cowher.

In 2017, Dupree finished as the second best OLB on the team with 6 sacks.

Since Cowher got here, 6 sacks by an OLB would have been:

Fewer sacks than the 2nd best OLB in 9 seasons.
The same or better than the 2nd best OLB in 10 seasons.
The best by an OLB in 5 seasons.

Maybe I'm crazy but, to me, in terms of sacks, that profiles Dupree as a decent #2... maybe a little better than that (keep in mind that in several of those years, there were two all-pros at OLB). Considering he got more opportunities than sacks and could theoretically get better results than last year, I certainly don't think it's appropriate to label him a bust as a pass rusher.

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 Post subject: Re: Dupy says he can deliver double digit sacks this season
PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:33 pm 
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B2B,

I get your deference to stat based analysis. I think it has its purpose and can be a useful tool. It can also build an evaluator if it is too heavily relied on.

His athleticism is shorts is elite. No one argues that. The problem is on film I don't see that. There is nothing on tape to me that would indicate he is a 10+ sack guy. He has terrible bend, really poor hand fighting, no countermoves, and frankly I've never even been impressed with his first step for such an "elite" athlete.

Even you have to be a bit disappointed when you watch him on film, no? Again, I would expect more from my 1st rounder...but that is just me.


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