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 Post subject: New National Anthem Policy
PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2018 3:04 pm 
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ATLANTA -- NFL owners have unanimously approved a new national anthem policy that requires players to stand if they are on the field during the performance but gives them the option to remain in the locker room if they prefer, it was announced Wednesday.

The policy subjects teams to a fine if a player or any other team personnel do not show respect for the anthem. That includes any attempt to sit or kneel, as dozens of players have done during the past two seasons to protest racial inequality and police brutality. Those teams will also have the option to fine any team personnel, including players, for the infraction.
"We want people to be respectful of the national anthem," commissioner Roger Goodell said. "We want people to stand -- that's all personnel -- and make sure they treat this moment in a respectful fashion. That's something we think we owe. [But] we were also very sensitive to give players choices."

All 32 owners approved the policy, which will be part of the NFL's game operations manual and thus not subject to collective bargaining. The NFL Players Association said in a statement that it will review the policy and "challenge any aspect" that is inconsistent with the CBA.

San Francisco 49ers owner Jed York, however, said he abstained from Wednesday's vote on the new policy. He didn't say he opposed the policy, nor would reveal if any other team abstained.

Some important details remained unclear in the hours after the policy's approval, including the specific fine that teams would be subject to and also how the league will define respect for the flag.

After spending months in discussions, and another three hours over two days at the league's spring meetings, owners said this found a compromise that will end sitting or kneeling with an edict that stops short of requiring every player to stand.

The previous policy required players to be on the field for the anthem but said only that they "should" stand. When then-San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick began kneeling in 2016, the league had no rule it could use to prevent it. The movement drew increasing criticism from President Donald Trump, as well as many fans, who believed it was a sign of disrespect toward the flag and country.

Owners, however, had been divided on how to extricate the league from that criticism. Some owners, including the Dallas Cowboys' Jerry Jones and the Houston Texans' Bob McNair, wanted all players to stand. Others, such as the New York Jets' Christopher Johnson, wanted to avoid any appearance of muzzling players.

Even the seemingly simple option of clearing the field prior to the anthem was rejected by some owners who thought it would be interpreted as a mass protest or at least a sign of disrespect.

Earlier this week, the league finalized an $89 million social justice platform with players to help address "some of the underlying issues" that were under protest, said Mark Murphy, the Green Bay Packers' president/CEO.

"I think we learned from each other in order to come to a unanimous consensus," Murphy said. "We also talked a lot about our players. I think when you look back at last fall, it was difficult for all of us within the league. But one of the positives that came out of it was an improved relationship with our players."

In a statement accompanying the announcement, Goodell said the league wanted to eliminate criticism that suggested the protests were unpatriotic.

"It was unfortunate that on-field protests created a false perception among many that thousands of NFL players were unpatriotic," Goodell said. "This is not and was never the case."

Kaepernick and former 49ers safety Eric Reid have both filed collusion cases against the league after failing to find jobs as free agents.


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 Post subject: Re: New National Anthem Policy
PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2018 3:25 pm 
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This will end badly as they have not defined ' stand in a respectful fashion'. The owner gave almost zero thought to this. Fining clubs because their players are not respectful? It would be much easier to allow then to have their cleats painted for their causes in every game.

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 Post subject: Re: New National Anthem Policy
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 Post subject: Re: New National Anthem Policy
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This still an unresolved issue? really? Just keep Everyone in the locker room till the ceremonies are all over with. Problem solved!


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 Post subject: Re: New National Anthem Policy
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This probably opened up a nice settlement for Kaep and Reid. Doubt that they ever see the field again.


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 Post subject: Re: New National Anthem Policy
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Steelafan77 wrote:
This still an unresolved issue? really? Just keep Everyone in the locker room till the ceremonies are all over with. Problem solved!

Agreed.


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 Post subject: Re: New National Anthem Policy
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NFL could learn a thing or ten from Adam Silver and the NBA.

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 Post subject: Re: New National Anthem Policy
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Steelafan77 wrote:
This still an unresolved issue? really? Just keep Everyone in the locker room till the ceremonies are all over with. Problem solved!


I think they did the right thing. Players who don't want to stand have the option of staying in the locker room. For once, Goodell used common sense.

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 Post subject: Re: New National Anthem Policy
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TB wrote:
NFL could learn a thing or ten from Adam Silver and the NBA.


I don't follow the NBA- what happened?


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 Post subject: Re: New National Anthem Policy
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Donnie Brasco wrote:
TB wrote:
NFL could learn a thing or ten from Adam Silver and the NBA.


I don't follow the NBA- what happened?


The NBA just generally supports its players and acts like it gives a shit about them and doesn't tell them to sit down (or stand in this case) and shut the fuck up.

For all the success its had (which I believe is coming to an end soon), the NFL is just an embarrassingly poorly run organization.

I say that no matter where you come down on the kneeling issue. Goodell has simultaneously managed to piss off the players, people who support them, and people who want them to stand. He's a real jack of all trades.


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