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 Post subject: Kendricks Released
PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 9:56 pm 
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Kendricks was designated as a post-June 1 release, clearing $6 million in cap space while leaving behind $1.6 million in dead money. The move comes after the Eagles (again) failed to find a trade partner for their two-down thumper. Kendricks wanted to play all three downs. Going on 28, Kendricks had one of his best seasons in 2018. Provided he's healthy — Kendricks is recovering from an ankle scope — he won't be on the open market for long. Linebacker is a position of need for the Eagles.

Adam Schefter via Twitter

I know we’ve already signed Bostic, but Kendricks would really give us another improvement at ILB.

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 Post subject: Re: Kendricks Released
PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 10:13 pm 
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How is the guy in coverage ? because that what is missing on this team right now.KC is always saying they are looking to upgrade this team. I still think they also need help on the outside.


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 Post subject: Re: Kendricks Released
PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 10:21 pm 
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Give him a 4 year deal with a big signing bonus and a small 1st year salary. He (along with Bostic) will strengthen the position greatly.


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 Post subject: Re: Kendricks Released
PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 11:31 pm 
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He is a 2-down ILB, in a league where no one runs it on every 1st and 2nd down.

And he wants to get paid like the positional value is 1995 and the salary cap is like 2018.

No thanks.

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 Post subject: Re: Kendricks Released
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He is a 2-down ILB, in a league where no one runs it on every 1st and 2nd down.
/sarca/ So you're saying Kendricks would be an ideal ILB on a team that faces the Steelers then? :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Kendricks Released
PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2018 8:44 am 
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Kendricks is a great LB who is physically gifted. You can knock him on his injury history, but not much else. I don't get the label as inadequate in pass coverage. He's always graded out pretty well there in PFF (if you buy into that stuff) and he certainly has the speed to cover backs. He was awesome in the 4-3 defense Philly had a few years back but has struggled with where they have been positioning him of late. The coaches frankly have preferred Bradham I think and I'm not necessarily sure that was their best move.

Kendricks still has a lot of gas left in the tank I believe (only 27 I think). I like VW and I also really like the Bostic signing, but I think it is hard to argue that Kendricks wouldn't make this defense better. I would take a long hard look at signing him to a smart cap friendly contract.


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 Post subject: Re: Kendricks Released
PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2018 11:14 am 
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He would be an upgrade and nice addition at this point, but he will have many teams interested in him.

Won't be in our price range....


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 Post subject: Re: Kendricks Released
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If what the Steelers want is to find a player that can replace what Shazier did effectively on this D, then Mychal Kendricks more closely does that than either Bostic or Williams. Although his height and arms arm slightly shorter, his coverage and run abilities are about as close as we are going to get at this point (he actually has better COD than Ryan and almost as fast).

If completely healthy and willing to sign a friendly deal, I would do what I could to get him into camp. He's certainly more than a 2 down player in our scheme, unless they are sold on only having extra Safeties handle passing down duties. He's definitely a better ILB than both Williams and Bostic....and I think Bostic is on the come, as they say.

I think there will be some demand for him, but he's not going to get paid what he thinks he thinks he's worth, at this point.


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 Post subject: Re: Kendricks Released
PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2018 12:17 pm 
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he's not going to get paid what he thinks he thinks he's worth, at this point.


Can pretty much be said for any vet FA/cut on the street right now, but I hear you.


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 Post subject: Re: Kendricks Released
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I don't see where we have the money to sign anybody else in free agency. We have restructured pretty much everybody we could this offseason and I don't think they give Ben an extension until next offseason, if at all. Also, Ben has performance escalators in the last two years of his contract, so that sort of throws a monkey wrench in terms of actually saving money. If he plays well, the offense takes off with Randy as the OC, Ben could meet all of those incentives and make as much as $9 million extra.

They really only have a few options like cutting the Beys, Sensabaughs, and Landry Jones, to maybe free up $3.5 million? They really never go into a season without a cushion, to have operating expenses, a petty cash fund if you will. They have done their wheeling and dealing, signed 3 free agents and tagged Bell, and have the 5th year option of Shazier that takes a chunk. Not really anything more that they can do.

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 Post subject: Re: Kendricks Released
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Well, Kendricks did have a good 2017 season, coming off the bench to play better than he had for a couple of years. It could be that he had long-lasting hammy issues.

Not sure he'll ever be a guy you want to match up with a TE, but... is he better than Matakevich? Of course he is.

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 Post subject: Re: Kendricks Released
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Well, Kendricks did have a good 2017 season, coming off the bench to play better than he had for a couple of years. It could be that he had long-lasting hammy issues.

Not sure he'll ever be a guy you want to match up with a TE, but... is he better than Matakevich? Of course he is.


So your saying you wouldn't match (a healthy) Shazier up with a TE either? Because, other than being 1-2"s shorter, he's almost identical to Shazier athletically. He's a better athlete and football player then any ILB we currently have on our roster. Now, if he has some commitment/mental/attitude issues that's a different story, but we aren't privy to that stuff usually. If all is good with him, I would give him a 3yr/$12m/$5mG if we could afford it somehow. Heck, would you consider cutting Vince and giving Kendricks his cap savings plus another $1.5m or so?


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 Post subject: Re: Kendricks Released
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Shazier was horrible at 1 on 1 coverage until late 2016, early 2017. Just because you're an athlete doesn't mean you're good at coverage. Some guys are bad athletes and great in coverage and vice versa. Before late 2016, I would never have had Shazier covering a move TE 1 on 1, and said so here on this forum multiple times. I also pointed out when he began to improve in this area.

If Kendricks were a developmental guy, I'd be more inclined to take a chance on training him to use his athleticism. He can do some stuff-but he's another guy with tackling issues and coverage issues who jumps out of tape because of his speed... not always going in the right direction.

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 Post subject: Re: Kendricks Released
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I don't see where we have the money to sign anybody else in free agency. We have restructured pretty much everybody we could this offseason and I don't think they give Ben an extension until next offseason, if at all. Also, Ben has performance escalators in the last two years of his contract, so that sort of throws a monkey wrench in terms of actually saving money. If he plays well, the offense takes off with Randy as the OC, Ben could meet all of those incentives and make as much as $9 million extra.

They really only have a few options like cutting the Beys, Sensabaughs, and Landry Jones, to maybe free up $3.5 million? They really never go into a season without a cushion, to have operating expenses, a petty cash fund if you will. They have done their wheeling and dealing, signed 3 free agents and tagged Bell, and have the 5th year option of Shazier that takes a chunk. Not really anything more that they can do.

I know where they can find $14.5 million... :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Kendricks Released
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Shazier was horrible at 1 on 1 coverage until late 2016, early 2017. Just because you're an athlete doesn't mean you're good at coverage. Some guys are bad athletes and great in coverage and vice versa. Before late 2016, I would never have had Shazier covering a move TE 1 on 1, and said so here on this forum multiple times. I also pointed out when he began to improve in this area.

If Kendricks were a developmental guy, I'd be more inclined to take a chance on training him to use his athleticism. He can do some stuff-but he's another guy with tackling issues and coverage issues who jumps out of tape because of his speed... not always going in the right direction.

Whatever you say, b2b. You can keep on convincing yourself he's a two down player and I'll stick to my position that he's better in coverage than any ILB on our roster. Is he Shazier? No, no one is, but he's a lot closer to it than anything we have an option to put on the field this year.


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 Post subject: Re: Kendricks Released
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Shazier was horrible at 1 on 1 coverage until late 2016, early 2017. Just because you're an athlete doesn't mean you're good at coverage.


Huge Shazier fan (CFB affiliation as well as the job he was doing for the PS), but this is definitely true. Shazier was a young, ascending, improving player. His best ball was ahead of him. He definitely needed to learn a LOT coming into the league, and had only recently begun to really hit his stride. Can 27-year old Kendricks make similar strides before injury and/or Father Time takes that speed from him? Maybe. Do you want to pay as much as he's going to ask to see that hole card?


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 Post subject: Re: Kendricks Released
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Shazier was horrible at 1 on 1 coverage until late 2016, early 2017. Just because you're an athlete doesn't mean you're good at coverage.


Huge Shazier fan (CFB affiliation as well as the job he was doing for the PS), but this is definitely true. Shazier was a young, ascending, improving player. His best ball was ahead of him. He definitely needed to learn a LOT coming into the league, and had only recently begun to really hit his stride. Can 27-year old Kendricks make similar strides before injury and/or Father Time takes that speed from him? Maybe. Do you want to pay as much as he's going to ask to see that hole card?

True, but what's the saying? You can't teach speed. Dirty Red may be great at knowing how to cover, but knowing how won't stop a 4.6/40 TE from blowing by him. If you have the speed first, you can/should be coached up, much like Shazier was recently showing. My guess is the market will bear somewhere in the $3-5m/per for Kendricks' services.


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 Post subject: Re: Kendricks Released
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Scunge wrote:
I don't see where we have the money to sign anybody else in free agency. We have restructured pretty much everybody we could this offseason and I don't think they give Ben an extension until next offseason, if at all. Also, Ben has performance escalators in the last two years of his contract, so that sort of throws a monkey wrench in terms of actually saving money. If he plays well, the offense takes off with Randy as the OC, Ben could meet all of those incentives and make as much as $9 million extra.

They really only have a few options like cutting the Beys, Sensabaughs, and Landry Jones, to maybe free up $3.5 million? They really never go into a season without a cushion, to have operating expenses, a petty cash fund if you will. They have done their wheeling and dealing, signed 3 free agents and tagged Bell, and have the 5th year option of Shazier that takes a chunk. Not really anything more that they can do.

I know where they can find $14.5 million... :mrgreen:

I believe they gain no comp pick if they rescind the tag now... so that's not happening.

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 Post subject: Re: Kendricks Released
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Shazier was horrible at 1 on 1 coverage until late 2016, early 2017. Just because you're an athlete doesn't mean you're good at coverage. Some guys are bad athletes and great in coverage and vice versa. Before late 2016, I would never have had Shazier covering a move TE 1 on 1, and said so here on this forum multiple times. I also pointed out when he began to improve in this area.

If Kendricks were a developmental guy, I'd be more inclined to take a chance on training him to use his athleticism. He can do some stuff-but he's another guy with tackling issues and coverage issues who jumps out of tape because of his speed... not always going in the right direction.

Whatever you say, b2b. You can keep on convincing yourself he's a two down player and I'll stick to my position that he's better in coverage than any ILB on our roster. Is he Shazier? No, no one is, but he's a lot closer to it than anything we have an option to put on the field this year.

I'll take Bostic, Matthew Thomas, and Edmunds as an ILB over Kendricks, especially given the price tag.

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 Post subject: Re: Kendricks Released
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I don't see where we have the money to sign anybody else in free agency. We have restructured pretty much everybody we could this offseason and I don't think they give Ben an extension until next offseason, if at all. Also, Ben has performance escalators in the last two years of his contract, so that sort of throws a monkey wrench in terms of actually saving money. If he plays well, the offense takes off with Randy as the OC, Ben could meet all of those incentives and make as much as $9 million extra.

They really only have a few options like cutting the Beys, Sensabaughs, and Landry Jones, to maybe free up $3.5 million? They really never go into a season without a cushion, to have operating expenses, a petty cash fund if you will. They have done their wheeling and dealing, signed 3 free agents and tagged Bell, and have the 5th year option of Shazier that takes a chunk. Not really anything more that they can do

I cut Bey, Sensabaugh restructure Heyward and possibly Haden to get Kendricks in the B&G.


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 Post subject: Re: Kendricks Released
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As someone who suffered an Achilles injury I would say don’t touch him with a 10’ pole.

Achilles Injury Study:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/28644678/

This article says Kendricks is coming back from an Achilles rupture:
https://247sports.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers/ContentGallery/Pros-and-cons-of-Pittsburgh-Steelers-signing-Mychal-Kendricks-118465138/#118465138_1

I see no other articles about an Achilles rupture only ankle surgery Kendricks.

Color me skeptiical.


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 Post subject: Re: Kendricks Released
PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2018 7:08 am 
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Steelers free agent LB target?

I know, Pittsburgh. You hate Mychal Kendricks. He ruined your viewing experience of a Penguins game in Philadelphia earlier this year on NBC.

But what if I told you he's a 27-year old linebacker who stands 6 feet tall, weighs 240 pounds, just started at inside linebacker for the Eagles in the Super Bowl and has now been released?

Is that something you might be interested in?

The Steelers should try to make this happen. The Steelers have only about $5.7 million in cap space . Kendricks may ask for more than that. He was slated to make $5.9 million with a cap hit of over $7.5 million in Philadelphia.

The Eagles released him because they found a cheaper option in Denver's Corey Nelson.

He's a little thicker than Ryan Shazier. But he's almost exactly the same size as Jon Bostic and appears to be a more accomplished version of him. Last season, Kendricks had 77 tackles and two sacks. He also broke up six passes, which is a plus.

At least one outlet says the Steelers would be a perfect landing spot for him. http://triblive.com/sports/columnists/t ... e-steelers


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 Post subject: Re: Kendricks Released
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Signing a one year deal with the browns.
EDITED KENDRICKS SAYS NO DEAL


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Signing a one year deal with the browns.
EDITED KENDRICKS SAYS NO DEAL


Well, rejection of Cleveland always a plus.


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Mychal Kendricks on report he is signing with the Browns: 1/2: “No, it’s not accurate. I don’t know who the (bleep) said that. That (bleep) is (bleep). Whoever said that (bleep) is (bleep). That’s all I have to say, man. I’m not really talking to anybody else about it... https://twitter.com/christomasson/statu ... 4645237760

Typical crap-report trying to be the first to break the news made himself out to be a douchebag yet again. :lol:

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