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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 9:44 am 
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Starts at 10 am today. I may actually buy a few this year.


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 Post subject: Re: Ticketmaster waiting list scramble
PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 10:11 am 
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Well I got tickets, but pretty sure this will be the last time. $65 in fees for three tickets. $155 a pop for nosebleeds. Add in $50 parking and concessions and it’s not worth it at all. Only reason I’m going is to give the kid the experience. Man did they ruin the game day experience in the last 15 years.


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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 10:15 am 
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Well I got tickets, but pretty sure this will be the last time. $65 in fees for three tickets. $155 a pop for nosebleeds. Add in $50 parking and concessions and it’s not worth it at all. Only reason I’m going is to give the kid the experience. Man did they ruin the game day experience in the last 15 years.


Just got concert tickets a couple of weeks ago for the Nelson/Morrison/Tedeschi Trucks/Sturgill Simpson show in Hershey, and the "fees" from Ticketbastard were similarly exorbitant. It had been a while since I got tickets that way, and I was sticker shocked as hell.


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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 11:12 am 
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I got tickets to Jim Jefferies for about $60 each, Slayer and 4 other bands for about 100 each. I can't imagine what a Steelers game would cost, so I may never make the trip. :(


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 Post subject: Re: Ticketmaster waiting list scramble
PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 11:30 am 
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Not to be judgmental or critical, but I'm sure you all know the reason the fees are "exorbitant" is because people like you keep paying them.

It's the same reason they keep making the seats smaller and closer together on airplanes, and create price points based on "access" to the front of the cabin. Or paying $800 for a smart phone/ tablet every year that has unbelievable margins unheard of in other industries.

In addition to a nation wide labor strike, there should be a nation wide boycott of select services/ products. Should be at least two weekends a month.

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 Post subject: Re: Ticketmaster waiting list scramble
PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 11:35 am 
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Not to be judgmental or critical, but I'm sure you all know the reason the fees are "exorbitant" is because people like you keep paying them.

It's the same reason they keep making the seats smaller and closer together on airplanes, and create price points based on "access" to the front of the cabin. Or paying $800 for a smart phone/ tablet every year that has unbelievable margins unheard of in other industries.

In addition to a nation wide labor strike, there should be a nation wide boycott of select services/ products. Should be at least two weekends a month.


Respect your political stance, but a couple of those acts aren't really going to be around long enough for me to protest by "boycotting the service."


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Agreed Perch the price of this shit is bonkers.


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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 12:05 pm 
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I passed this year. I went to the playoff debacle because those are such easy buys for people on the waiting list. I figured I'd buy a couple extra in case a friend or family member wanted them. Shit, nobody wanted to go. It was damn near impossible to sell them for face value. Luckily a friend of a friend was interested and bought them from me on game day. Tickets are just not in high demand anymore.

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COR-TEN wrote:
Not to be judgmental or critical, but I'm sure you all know the reason the fees are "exorbitant" is because people like you keep paying them.

It's the same reason they keep making the seats smaller and closer together on airplanes, and create price points based on "access" to the front of the cabin. Or paying $800 for a smart phone/ tablet every year that has unbelievable margins unheard of in other industries.

In addition to a nation wide labor strike, there should be a nation wide boycott of select services/ products. Should be at least two weekends a month.


Respect your political stance, but a couple of those acts aren't really going to be around long enough for me to protest by "boycotting the service."
I get it. Like I said I wasn't being judgmental. Shit is what it is, but you have to admit certain industries have us over a barrel. We have very little choice, when supposedly we have choices. Plural. It's either pay the fee or forego a once in a lifetime experience. Cram yourself into a sardine can and suffer for 6 hours or don't visit your sick parent, or brand new grandchild, or whatever. Or sacrifice a kidney for a humane sized seat ready for the 85th percentile, not the 30th, or conversely, take three days to get there by train, or drive. And when the distance between the haves and have nots increases yearly. . . You get the idea.

But enough of that. Yeah, fuck ticketmaster or whoever.

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 Post subject: Re: Ticketmaster waiting list scramble
PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 12:28 pm 
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Oh, definitely, Cor. Even at the fees charged way back (most of the acts I see handle their own ticket sales, at this point, or are playing in clubs/small venues that fall outside Ticketbastard's Imperial Influence), I was super pleased when Pearl Jam (I think) sued them. If I want to see that show, my options certainly are limited.


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https://www.wsj.com/articles/ceo-of-con ... 1525878000

Realize this isn't a concert thread, but relevant


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 Post subject: Re: Ticketmaster waiting list scramble
PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 6:33 pm 
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Was odd this year. Am I mistaken, or was the pricing different depending on the game. Friend of mine paid about $100 per tix for sideline seats for Chargers in December. A couple in end zone for Falcons, Columbus Day Weekend cost $125/per...and yeah, about $42 for fees.

I go cuz it's me and my kid doing a father/son thing. I pick him up, literally on the street in NYC, drive into Pittsburgh...drop his ass back off on 1st Avenue as well....never park the car.

Last year, caught a Penguins game, too


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 Post subject: Re: Ticketmaster waiting list scramble
PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 6:34 pm 
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Bought some tickets about a month ago for some band the wife said wanted to see.

Seats were $300 each. When I got the email confirm from ticketmaster I was kinda like WTF why is it over $700??

Well $50 was the “service fee” for each ticket plus taxes which brought what I was expecting to be $600 to over $700.

Is what it is I suppose.

But here is the thing. We all have a choice. We can choose to not go because the fees are excessive or decide the personal value is worth the cost.

In my case, I was essentially charged a 20% commission for what was very limited service.

Think about say a realtor. They charge approx. 3% to 6% ballpark. And while it’s a much bigger purchase, they are actually providing some value and doing stuff that would be not only a headache but also quite time consuming to boot. Throw in the fact if something gets messed up what the ramifications are.

So 3-6% to help people with what will typically be the largest purchase they ever make.

Versus Ticketmaster charging 20% to do next to nothing. They facilitate the transaction. That’s it. It’s all done electronically. There is zero value add.

It would be reasonable for them to charge say a 1-5% fee. 20% is ridiculous.

With that being said, I have the choice of not utilizing their service. I can try to obtain tickets elsewhere or simply choose not to go. And if I do choose to go then I’m making the choice that the cost I’m paying is worth it to me.

These fees are not forced upon me and I’m under no obligation to pay them. So it’s really a case of buyer beware. Value the event enough and you’ll pay the fee. Don’t value it enough and you won’t.

Key here is that the choice still lies with the individual to pay or not pay.

What I find a bit funny about this bitching about fees are some of the people doing it. These are some of the same people that trip over themselves to support politicians that champion raising taxes.

Regardless of what side of the political spectrum you fall on, I think most would agree our government is out of control with its spending. And that spending has essentially zero accountability.

So it just seems a bit funny to see people complaining about paying a $50 service fee on something that is a discretionary item you are in no way forced to spend your money on all the while villianizing people that don’t want to pay EVEN MORE in taxes than they already do. With zero accountability for where their money goes or what it is spent on.

Bitch about a service fee you have full control of paying or not paying while jumping on people that don’t like the government digging even deeper into their pocket.

The irony is comical.


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 Post subject: Re: Ticketmaster waiting list scramble
PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 6:48 pm 
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Shit is what it is, but you have to admit certain industries have us over a barrel.


Name one single industry that has us “over a barrel” more so than the U.S. Governement.

I can easily tally up how much money goes to them each year.

It’s WAAAAAY more than any of these “evil industries”

I get a kick out of people like Bernie Sanders. Spends his time attacking business that are “stealing” from the people of this county all the while campaigning on raising taxes to steal even more money from these very people.

Last I checked I’ve paid a shit load more money to Uncle Sam than I ever have to Pfizer or Goldman Sachs.

Ticketmaster, as ridiculous as their fee is, doesn’t even register in terms of things I have to complain about. I could easily show up day of event an pay some scalper for tix if I want to roll the dice.

The “slight of hand” trick is a powerful tool. Get people looking over there and they’ll be too busy to look over here.


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It was just a handful of years ago that being on the season ticket waiting list was awesome. You could pick up to two games per season and get up to four seats together at face price with no fees by dropping a check in the mail. Tickets were about $55 each then. Now I’m paying $155 each with the fees for nosebleeds before $60 to park plus overpriced concessions. Taking my kid and my dad to a game will set me back $600 at a minimum. Add in two hours of traffic into and out of the stadium vs sitting home and watching a 70” high definition tv and the choice is clear. Pretty sure this will be my last game at the stadium and this from a fanatic who always loved going to games


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I feel your pain. Bought tickets to see Slayer this Sunday [back in April] and the face price was $55. :shock: After the fees and taxes they came to $74 a piece. :o For a Metal show? Really?! Just the taxes and fees incurred was the actual ticket prices back in the 80's/90's. :lol: When did this shit get so damned expensive. My disclaimer. Slayer is retiring at the end of this tour so I had to see them once more. Testament, Anthrax, Lamb of God and Behemoth are also playing. Haven't seen Lamb of God or Behemoth so that'll be a new experience. Anyway, I feel the pain brutha. They got us hooked....


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 Post subject: Re: Ticketmaster waiting list scramble
PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 7:22 pm 
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Bought some tickets about a month ago for some band the wife said wanted to see.

Seats were $300 each. When I got the email confirm from ticketmaster I was kinda like WTF why is it over $700??

Well $50 was the “service fee” for each ticket plus taxes which brought what I was expecting to be $600 to over $700.

Is what it is I suppose.

But here is the thing. We all have a choice. We can choose to not go because the fees are excessive or decide the personal value is worth the cost.

In my case, I was essentially charged a 20% commission for what was very limited service.

Think about say a realtor. They charge approx. 3% to 6% ballpark. And while it’s a much bigger purchase, they are actually providing some value and doing stuff that would be not only a headache but also quite time consuming to boot. Throw in the fact if something gets messed up what the ramifications are.

So 3-6% to help people with what will typically be the largest purchase they ever make.

Versus Ticketmaster charging 20% to do next to nothing. They facilitate the transaction. That’s it. It’s all done electronically. There is zero value add.

It would be reasonable for them to charge say a 1-5% fee. 20% is ridiculous.

With that being said, I have the choice of not utilizing their service. I can try to obtain tickets elsewhere or simply choose not to go. And if I do choose to go then I’m making the choice that the cost I’m paying is worth it to me.

These fees are not forced upon me and I’m under no obligation to pay them. So it’s really a case of buyer beware. Value the event enough and you’ll pay the fee. Don’t value it enough and you won’t.

Key here is that the choice still lies with the individual to pay or not pay.

What I find a bit funny about this bitching about fees are some of the people doing it. These are some of the same people that trip over themselves to support politicians that champion raising taxes.

Regardless of what side of the political spectrum you fall on, I think most would agree our government is out of control with its spending. And that spending has essentially zero accountability.

So it just seems a bit funny to see people complaining about paying a $50 service fee on something that is a discretionary item you are in no way forced to spend your money on all the while villianizing people that don’t want to pay EVEN MORE in taxes than they already do. With zero accountability for where their money goes or what it is spent on.

Bitch about a service fee you have full control of paying or not paying while jumping on people that don’t like the government digging even deeper into their pocket.

The irony is comical.


For the record....I ain't bitchin'.


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 Post subject: Re: Ticketmaster waiting list scramble
PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 7:24 pm 
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SP wrote:
It was just a handful of years ago that being on the season ticket waiting list was awesome. You could pick up to two games per season and get up to four seats together at face price with no fees by dropping a check in the mail. Tickets were about $55 each then. Now I’m paying $155 each with the fees for nosebleeds before $60 to park plus overpriced concessions. Taking my kid and my dad to a game will set me back $600 at a minimum. Add in two hours of traffic into and out of the stadium vs sitting home and watching a 70” high definition tv and the choice is clear. Pretty sure this will be my last game at the stadium and this from a fanatic who always loved going to games


Perch...all due respect, you know as well as anyone that you can less then ten bucks to park in town.


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I’m with ya SP when it comes to sporting events. And as I’ve aged it’s gotten worse. What I mean by that is if I’m going to pay to be there and deal with the inconvenience then I am not really going to be happy with the nosebleed type of seats. Why bother? Might as well watch from home. So if I’m going I want good seats.

And those cost $$$

So if seats are $300-$600 a piece plus travel, parking, food, drinks etc you are all of a sudden in for a few thousand dollars if taking a family to the game.

I almost pulled the trigger on 5 tickets, airfare, hotel, rental car, expenses for this most recent playoff game.

Soooo glad I kept the AMEX in pocket the day I was kicking that around.

I’ll take my son to a few baseball games a year but football tix have gotten out of hand.

We live in CA Bay Area so I’ll also take him to a Warriors game or two but realize I’m getting hosed in those tix as well.

At least with those tix I have a reasonable expectation of a W.


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My two today cost me total of $292 for Steelers-Falcons....endzone, about halfway up. I don't feel particularly ripped off. I'll park in town for $9.

Now....probably spend another hundred for beers/bourbon pre-game at Grille 36, and in stadium.

All said though, I'm okay with it.


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For the record....I ain't bitchin'.


Didn’t think you were. Wasn’t directing my comments at you.

Nobody likes paying stupid fees. Myself included.

Reality however is that the cost of life will always go up, not down. Things can only be made cheaper if someone else subsidizes the cost.

So the solution really is to figure out how you can earn more rather than pay less. Obviously find deals where you can but the things we do in life cost money as well as create the opportunity for somebody or some business to exploit our desire for entertainment.

My point was that at the least, we are free to decide whether or not we want to patronize the business or service.

That choice isn’t given when it comes to what gets taken from us.

And many of the people that support those who want to take more are the same people complaining about a service fee they were free not to pay.

Just rambling.


I had a few too many one night and bought some tix for my wife for a band I really didn’t want to see and the next day was like WTF did I just blow $700+ on...

I know I got the shaft but it’s the reality of seeing a live show.

Want good seats then be prepared to get shafted.

Still have a choice though.


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My two today cost me total of $292 for Steelers-Falcons....endzone, about halfway up. I don't feel particularly ripped off. I'll park in town for $9.

Now....probably spend another hundred for beers/bourbon pre-game at Grille 36, and in stadium.

All said though, I'm okay with it.


Last time we went we stayed across the bridges at the hotels and just walked across. Better than driving and parking.

Especially with the restricted tailgating now days.


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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 8:03 pm 
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When did this shit get so damned expensive.


Bout the time these bands realize they are old and only have a few more go around before it’s all done for them.

The Stones can get away with charging big bucks to see some old ass men up on stage.

Slayer, not so much.

I hear ya though. I remember paying like $20 (maybe not even that much) to see Slayer at the El Dorado Saloon in Sacramento back in the late 80s.

The good ole days.


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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2018 9:04 am 
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So why the hell doesn't a ticketing service come around that only charges 2-3% service fee for having your tickets emailed to you? Or does it already exist somewhere? Take something that's already been invented and make it better/less expensive.

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