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 Post subject: Re: OT Chuks Okorafor 3rd RND Pick 92nd overall
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:24 am 
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I didn't like the pick but given track record recently with oline if anyone can fix issues with this kid who has elite tool it is Munchak.


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 Post subject: Re: OT Chuks Okorafor 3rd RND Pick 92nd overall
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steelclan wrote:
I didn't like the pick but given track record recently with oline if anyone can fix issues with this kid who has elite tool it is Munchak.



I was like WTF when they made this pick.

Then, I remembered Munchak.


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 Post subject: Re: OT Chuks Okorafor 3rd RND Pick 92nd overall
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SteelThrillsseeker wrote:
steelclan wrote:
I didn't like the pick but given track record recently with oline if anyone can fix issues with this kid who has elite tool it is Munchak.



I was like WTF when they made this pick.

Then, I remembered Munchak.


Yeah, this kid will replace Gilbert in 2020.

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 Post subject: Re: OT CHUKS OKORAFOR 3rd RND Pick 92nd overall
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Has to be a future swing tackle.

Very raw.


Trai Essex part deaux? :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: OT Chuks Okorafor 3rd RND Pick 92nd overall
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 5:12 pm 
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Stosh-67 wrote:
can someone please convince me.....
a team with holes to fill
that is in win now mode.
that needs help with ILB
help with edge rushing abilities,
help with NT competition,

<<<< Look to the left when you read this next question

please convince me we did not just spend our two 3rd round picks on game day inactives..............

1. Bostic will be better than you think.
2. Edge rushing will come from a better Watt and Dupree. Also from Hilton, Davis, Edmunds, Sutton and Burnette.
3. A healthy Hargrave and Tuitt will make a big difference on the DL. Walton was coming on as well. I think they grab a DL in the 5th.
4. There will be some decent Vet players released that will provide value backup support in spots of need.


I love Bostic the player but his problem is that he can't stay healthy. Hence the need for ILB depth.


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 Post subject: Re: OT Chuks Okorafor 3rd RND Pick 92nd overall
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:02 pm 
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The kid is athletic so Munch will be able to mold him. I think they could have done it with someone like Will Richardson

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 Post subject: Re: OT Chuks Okorafor 3rd RND Pick 92nd overall
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I like the pick. I looked into him and took him in the SF mock draft for the Texans. He's only been playing football for about four years I think. He has elite feet, size, length, strength and quickness. He just needs to be taught the game, our game, from the best (Munch).

If this kid gets serious about football, he will be a stud. I don't think he's lazy as much as inexperienced/insecure about how to play properly.

I could end up being wrong, but I really trust Munch and his evaluation of the player.

Also, when I was looking at him a month or so ago he was considered a top 70 pick.


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 Post subject: Re: OT Chuks Okorafor 3rd RND Pick 92nd overall
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If he is lazy, it is a Mike Adams pick. If it is just an issue of technique and learning, it could be a fantastic pick. I don't know enough about him to know if it is a "motor" issue.


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 Post subject: Re: OT Chuks Okorafor 3rd RND Pick 92nd overall
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Okorafor’s upside probably being the highest of this year’s Steelers’ draft class is a result of him not playing football very long. In fact, Okorafor, who moved from Botswana, a country in Southern Africa, to the United States in December of 2010, said during this year’s combine that the first football game he ever saw was Super Bowl XLV between the Green Bay Packers and Steelers.

“I wasn’t really sure what (was going on),” Okorafor said at the combine. “But the thing kind of looked fun to me, so I said, ‘Let me give it a shot.'”


http://www.steelersdepot.com/2018/04/steelers-believe-chuks-probably-has-most-unique-upside-of-entire-2018-draft-class/


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 Post subject: Re: OT Chuks Okorafor 3rd RND Pick 92nd overall
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But then I read about Okorafor’s struggles with technique and balance, his inability to diagnose certain things while zone blocking and, the sin of sins for any football player, his lack of aggressiveness, and it gave me pause.
https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2 ... tackle-nfl


I'm reading this young player 'Chuks' has elite feet and athleticism for a 6'6 320 pounder. Though 'Chuks' hasn't been playing football for very long. The rawness he is shown to have is simply experience [lack thereof]. His family immigrated here in 2010. Not like he was already playing football [as we know it] in Botswana. What folks are saying is he's a quick study. What Tomlin classifies as an 'above the neck player' or what we say 'cerebral player'. With the physicality of the OLine position his only question mark I think the 3rd RND was a deal. Munchak will coach 'Chuks' up on his abilities and his physical gifts will excel him into a solid if not elite OT. Which side he plays is still uncertain IMHO. He has the length and athleticism to play LT. I think they start him as swing until he ultimately gets in where he fits in. I think we may look back at this 'weird' draft and wonder why we weren't queued in on these players more. This draft could turn out to be a very good draft where they 'hit' on every draftee. I know it's way too soon. SBI if this is the case.

http://www.steelers.com/news/article-4/ ... 79e3bfc43d

After all is said and done I believe this 'Chuks' OLine prospect is a far better 'gamble' than the rugby player from Australia. Whom many thought the Steelers should draft. JMO

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Okorafor has the light feet and long arms every scout is looking for in a potential left tackle but he plays passively, lacking a consistently physical punch and a finishing mentality. He is gifted (and experienced) enough to warrant a Day Two selection and with a little more glass added to his diet, could "surprise" as a future starter.https://www.themaven.net/nfldraftscout/ ... dg/?full=1


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 Post subject: Re: OT Chuks Okorafor 3rd RND Pick 92nd overall
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Okorafor’s upside probably being the highest of this year’s Steelers’ draft class is a result of him not playing football very long. In fact, Okorafor, who moved from Botswana, a country in Southern Africa. . .
Um. There's more than one Botswana?

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 Post subject: Re: OT Chuks Okorafor 3rd RND Pick 92nd overall
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Okorafor’s upside probably being the highest of this year’s Steelers’ draft class is a result of him not playing football very long. In fact, Okorafor, who moved from Botswana, a country in Southern Africa. . .
Um. There's more than one Botswana?


Maybe not everyone knows where Botswana is located? Nothing in the sentence you quoted suggests there are two Botswana; instead, the sentence merely identified geographically the location of Botswana.


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 Post subject: Re: OT Chuks Okorafor 3rd RND Pick 92nd overall
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I'm rooting for this kid. My new 'underdog' player I'd love to see surprise and take Gilbert's place in the next couple season's. Perhaps even sooner.


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 Post subject: Re: OT Chuks Okorafor 3rd RND Pick 92nd overall
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Zeke5123 wrote:
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Okorafor’s upside probably being the highest of this year’s Steelers’ draft class is a result of him not playing football very long. In fact, Okorafor, who moved from Botswana, a country in Southern Africa. . .
Um. There's more than one Botswana?


Maybe not everyone knows where Botswana is located? Nothing in the sentence you quoted suggests there are two Botswana; instead, the sentence merely identified geographically the location of Botswana.
Americans, or more specifically, United States of Americans, are notoriously geographically impaired. This is just a prime example of enabling stupidity.

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 Post subject: Re: OT Chuks Okorafor 3rd RND Pick 92nd overall
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gotta love manufactured outrage.

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 Post subject: Re: OT Chuks Okorafor 3rd RND Pick 92nd overall
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He could quickly become the swing tackle...Hawkins knee injury looks significant

His issues are technique related...I think he can play RT right now....I am not sure about LT

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 Post subject: Re: OT Chuks Okorafor 3rd RND Pick 92nd overall
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He could quickly become the swing tackle...Hawkins knee injury looks significant

His issues are technique related...I think he can play RT right now....I am not sure about LT

Do you think Feiler has a chance to play LT? I do. I think Feiler is next man up as swing tackle.

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 Post subject: Re: OT Chuks Okorafor 3rd RND Pick 92nd overall
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He could quickly become the swing tackle...Hawkins knee injury looks significant

His issues are technique related...I think he can play RT right now....I am not sure about LT


I heard he was very raw. I would guess he needs to redshirt for a season.

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 Post subject: Re: OT Chuks Okorafor 3rd RND Pick 92nd overall
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I think Fieler sucks.

Chuks is raw.

He needs work with hand placement, balance, set up,he really needs work on his pass sets.

All that being said

He plays with very heavy hands...When he locks on he wins
He has good feet...With technique work his feet could be very good
I wont be shocked if he is the best tackle in this class...This class was brutally bad at OT

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I think Fieler sucks.

Chuks is raw.

He needs work with hand placement, balance, set up,he really needs work on his pass sets.

All that being said

He plays with very heavy hands...When he locks on he wins
He has good feet...With technique work his feet could be very good
I wont be shocked if he is the best tackle in this class...This class was brutally bad at OT

I agree with you about this tackle class, overall.

I thought Feiler was really, really bad before last year. I thought he was pretty good in 2017 preseason. I credited it to Munchak's development program.

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 Post subject: Re: OT Chuks Okorafor 3rd RND Pick 92nd overall
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And to B2Bs point about the development program, I thought Chris Hubbard was garbage his first couple years with the team. I could not understand why he kept making the team, in the preseason he looked really, really bad, but then he got some regular season playing time and he wasn't half bad, then he was replacing Gilbert at RT and looking very good. Munchak is the best there is.

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 Post subject: Re: OT Chuks Okorafor 3rd RND Pick 92nd overall
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Hubbard WAS garbage for 2 years. There was no difference between him and a traffic barrel for that time.

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 Post subject: Re: OT Chuks Okorafor 3rd RND Pick 92nd overall
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Once Hubbard was given some opportunity to play he came in off the bench and produced like a veteran should. I think Hubbard could have been the heir apparent for Gilbert. Hubbard also did some snapping. Although I thought he wasn't as good at center he was just good enough there. That's how well he did last season IMHO. To me Hawkins hasn't even come close to the same productivity that Hubbard had at this stage in his career. Now with a severe knee injury I think Hawkins gets the luxury to finish his career in Pittsburgh on IR and then is released. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and state what I think is obvious. Okorafor is the future. Where his final position ends up being? Right Tackle. To start. I also think Morris is a guy on the rise. With Pouncey aging Morris could be the next man up. I believe Finney is the heir apparent for Foster. Feiler can play RT but I see him more as a RG. Feiler was also snapping the ball from center in OTA's as well. I think he makes the roster this season again sans any surprise OLineman taking camp/preseason by storm. So, Okorafor, Finney and Feiler in addition to Villanueva, Foster, Pouncey, DeCastro, Gilbert. If they keep 9 this season then I could see Morris being #9.


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 Post subject: Re: OT Chuks Okorafor 3rd RND Pick 92nd overall
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Watt gave Chuks a learning day. Watt was relentless and gave the Chuk a hard time.


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 Post subject: Re: OT Chuks Okorafor 3rd RND Pick 92nd overall
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R S wrote:
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gotta love manufactured outrage.
Who is outraged? It's sad, actually.

Just highlighting the fact that Americans are stupid when compared to the rest of the developed world when it comes to geography. But I'm sure you're ok with the youth of your country being out smarted by foreigners. Maybe that's why you don't want them here.

But keep up with the "manufactured" narrative.

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