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 Post subject: Re: QB Mason Rudolph - 3rd RD pick #79
PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 10:20 pm 
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If we get a healthy Vance McDonald this year... shew wee. What a theft. Dude was so impactful when he was out there.

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 Post subject: Re: QB Mason Rudolph - 3rd RD pick #79
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Well to me that is one of the keys with Washington just exploding this season as a rookie, the surrounding cast.

In each instance over the years, that rookie vertical deep threat was able to come in and have that success early because of the supporting cast being so damn good.

Teams have to worry about Antonio Brown, JuJu, Bell, McDonald at TE, Samuels at Fullback or H-back or as the 2nd TE, and then oh yeah, they also have to worry about James Washington too.

I can see James having a Mike Wallace or Bryant rookie season, catch 35-40 passes, average 20 yards per catch, 7-8 TDs. So many wanted to keep Bryant hoping he would return to that early form he showed but I think that ship had long sailed, 2014-2015 is such a long time ago. That Bryant was never coming back.

The thing that I absolutely love the most about Washington and Samuels is that they are really grounded no nonsense type of players. They have just unbelievable work ethic too from what I have read. Also, this offense needed playmakers to help score more touchdowns, more points, to help this offense truly achieve its potential, for Ben to have an MVP season.

Drafting two players that combined for 88 TDs in college? Yes, please! Washington had 39 TD catches and 1 TD on that long reverse. Samuels had 48 combined TDs (he had a 59 yard TD pass to on his resume too, 2 of 3 on option passes).

So many wanted to stand pat on offense but that was the wrong approach, the weapons were just not there, now Ben has a fully stocked roster of weapons of all shapes and sizes, weapons at every level of the offense, be it short, medium or long, H-back, TE, Fullback, Slot WR, Vertical Deep threat WR, RB, there just is no missing piece now.

If Ben does not win the MVP this season with this roster, well there are no excuses.

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 Post subject: Re: QB Mason Rudolph - 3rd RD pick #79
PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 9:24 am 
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Sounds like Rudolph did well at the Rookie weekend

It doesn't mean too much of course, but I liked reading Marcus Tucker's comments about Rudolph's big arm.

This is Tucker's 3rd rodeo, and he's been on our practice squad for a couple years -- so he's familiar with what it means to have a "big arm" since he has seen all of our QBs so far. He's not just a new WR in camp saying nice things about the QBs


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 Post subject: Re: QB Mason Rudolph - 3rd RD pick #79
PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 3:12 pm 
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Scunge wrote:
If Ben does not win the MVP this season with this roster, well there are no excuses.

You didn't even mention the biggest improvement for the offense.

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 Post subject: Re: QB Mason Rudolph - 3rd RD pick #79
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p.s.: Teams are going to start the season trying to push us into running the offense through Bell.

The most important factor in our offense being successful in 2018 is not allowing defenses or our conservative HC mentality (if that's truly at the root of this) to overplay the Bell hand. Nobody is scared of Le'Veon Bell scoring or breaking a 30-40 yard play any time he touches the ball. Nor should they be. Overutilizing him in unfavorable situations the past two years reduced his efficiency an unbelievable amount. Conversely, when we used him as a closer on drives where we got the defense on its heels with attacking pass game, Bell delivered.

IMO, there are enough touches for Bell coming his way via safety valves and split wide matchups vs less-athletic LBs that we barely need to feed him the ball on early downs. Being less predictable on 1st and 2nd downs is the key to being more successful on 3rd downs and scoring more.

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 Post subject: Re: QB Mason Rudolph - 3rd RD pick #79
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p.s.: Teams are going to start the season trying to push us into running the offense through Bell.

The most important factor in our offense being successful in 2018 is not allowing defenses or our conservative HC mentality (if that's truly at the root of this) to overplay the Bell hand. Nobody is scared of Le'Veon Bell scoring or breaking a 30-40 yard play any time he touches the ball. Nor should they be. Overutilizing him in unfavorable situations the past two years reduced his efficiency an unbelievable amount. Conversely, when we used him as a closer on drives where we got the defense on its heels with attacking pass game, Bell delivered.

IMO, there are enough touches for Bell coming his way via safety valves and split wide matchups vs less-athletic LBs that we barely need to feed him the ball on early downs. Being less predictable on 1st and 2nd downs is the key to being more successful on 3rd downs and scoring more.

Agree with much of what you say, b2b, but don't forget the PS and (possibly) their coach believe strongly in getting what they pay for. If Bell is going to get almost a million a game he will be over used. It's just what the PS expect from their top played players...value through over-production.


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 Post subject: Re: QB Mason Rudolph - 3rd RD pick #79
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Can't let finances get in the way of what works. If using Bell less and better works better, they still got their money's worth.

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 Post subject: Re: QB Mason Rudolph - 3rd RD pick #79
PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 8:40 pm 
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Well...by using Bell more to get their money’s worth, they’re get less out of their highest paid player. Just saying...

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 Post subject: Re: QB Mason Rudolph - 3rd RD pick #79
PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 8:27 am 
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DP39 wrote:
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p.s.: Teams are going to start the season trying to push us into running the offense through Bell.

The most important factor in our offense being successful in 2018 is not allowing defenses or our conservative HC mentality (if that's truly at the root of this) to overplay the Bell hand. Nobody is scared of Le'Veon Bell scoring or breaking a 30-40 yard play any time he touches the ball. Nor should they be. Overutilizing him in unfavorable situations the past two years reduced his efficiency an unbelievable amount. Conversely, when we used him as a closer on drives where we got the defense on its heels with attacking pass game, Bell delivered.

IMO, there are enough touches for Bell coming his way via safety valves and split wide matchups vs less-athletic LBs that we barely need to feed him the ball on early downs. Being less predictable on 1st and 2nd downs is the key to being more successful on 3rd downs and scoring more.

Agree with much of what you say, b2b, but don't forget the PS and (possibly) their coach believe strongly in getting what they pay for. If Bell is going to get almost a million a game he will be over used. It's just what the PS expect from their top played players...value through over-production.


Do we want scoreboard production or RS bullshit stats production?

Tomlin has a potential Lamborghini (the offense) and he better not screw this up.


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 Post subject: Re: QB Mason Rudolph - 3rd RD pick #79
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
Scunge wrote:
If Ben does not win the MVP this season with this roster, well there are no excuses.

You didn't even mention the biggest improvement for the offense.


Let me guess...no Haley!

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 Post subject: Re: QB Mason Rudolph - 3rd RD pick #79
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If we get a healthy Vance McDonald this year... shew wee. What a theft. Dude was so impactful when he was out there.


I agree. The problem last year was he was hurt just about every other game if I recall

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 Post subject: Re: QB Mason Rudolph - 3rd RD pick #79
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The thing about McDonald is that maybe if he were more of a pussy in the blocking game like Jesse James, then maybe he would not get hurt as often! :lol:

Seriously, I was amazed at how great he was as a blocker. It was like night and day when McDonald was in there instead of James. I was not expecting that from him. I thought he would be more along the lines of these receiving TEs that are great catching passes, making big plays down the field and then being meh as a blocker, more of a playing patty cake type of blocker, just get in the way type of blocker. Instead we got a bit of a nasty blocker, who can be dominant at times. That really just blew me away.

Then you realize that he is capable of playing a game like he did in the Jacksonville playoff game where he had 10 catches for 112 yards? A guy who can block and also be that dangerous threat at TE?

If the Steelers do win a Super Bowl this year it may just be because McDonald finally put it all together as a player. He has the potential of being that rare combo TE who can be a dominant blocker and dominant receiver. True, he may miss some time but players that do that double duty, that sell out in both phases, they tend to get hurt. Gronk himself misses a lot of time due in part to how he plays the game.

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 Post subject: Re: QB Mason Rudolph - 3rd RD pick #79
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
Scunge wrote:
If Ben does not win the MVP this season with this roster, well there are no excuses.

You didn't even mention the biggest improvement for the offense.


Let me guess...no Haley!

of course

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 Post subject: Re: QB Mason Rudolph - 3rd RD pick #79
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Scunge wrote:
The thing about McDonald is that maybe if he were more of a pussy in the blocking game like Jesse James, then maybe he would not get hurt as often! :lol:

Seriously, I was amazed at how great he was as a blocker. It was like night and day when McDonald was in there instead of James. I was not expecting that from him. I thought he would be more along the lines of these receiving TEs that are great catching passes, making big plays down the field and then being meh as a blocker, more of a playing patty cake type of blocker, just get in the way type of blocker. Instead we got a bit of a nasty blocker, who can be dominant at times. That really just blew me away.

Then you realize that he is capable of playing a game like he did in the Jacksonville playoff game where he had 10 catches for 112 yards? A guy who can block and also be that dangerous threat at TE?

If the Steelers do win a Super Bowl this year it may just be because McDonald finally put it all together as a player. He has the potential of being that rare combo TE who can be a dominant blocker and dominant receiver. True, he may miss some time but players that do that double duty, that sell out in both phases, they tend to get hurt. Gronk himself misses a lot of time due in part to how he plays the game.


McDonald is built like a tank and runs like a deer. He is a physical presence on the field and adds a dimension that really changes the offense.


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 Post subject: Re: QB Mason Rudolph - 3rd RD pick #79
PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 11:44 am 
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Havoc wrote:

McDonald is built like a tank and runs like a deer. He is a physical presence on the field and adds a dimension that really changes the offense.


A tank with a lot of worn parts. his last two years have been an issue but it just might be the way it is.

http://sportsinjurypredictor.com/player ... onald/6717

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