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 Post subject: Re: WR James Washington 2nd RND 60th Overall
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:23 am 
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Definitely a solid pick.

He clearly won't be a bust, but will probably push JuJu for the #2. There was a run on corners, and I don't know about ILB but I'm not sure this is the pick that gets us to the SB.

When they shipped out Bryant, WR became arguably a need. Not a bad pick, at all. But it MAYBE fills a need that they created themselves.

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 Post subject: Re: WR James Washington 2nd RND 60th Overall
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:29 am 
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If we're being honest, PIT is operating scared, and has been for a few years.

You ship Bryant, and then spend your R2 on a WR. You're paying Bell almost double the next highest paid RB. And then I don't know WTF they're doing drafting OL in the 3rd, but I'm pretty sure it's a competition to see who can get their head the deepest up the camel's ass.

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 Post subject: Re: WR James Washington 2nd RND 60th Overall
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:57 am 
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Thick frame.
That's a hell of a lot of reps, targets, catches, yards, TDs.
Were half his TDs him getting behind the defense.
Also alot of endzone slants in traffic, bodied up, with guy on his back


Just Like Juju tapes....
Seems like excels in traffic, contested balls, adjusting to ball.
Slot guy.
Lot of mis matches for him.
End around guy.

Can certainly see a 50 catch 750 yard 6-7 TD rookie season.

Best of their 4 picks

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 Post subject: Re: WR James Washington 2nd RND 60th Overall
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 8:21 am 
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I love this pick.

I believe this is the pick that can push the offense over the top and get us to the SB.

Been saying for years that I"m looking for Ben to have an MVP season like Bradshaw did in '78 and for the offense to lead the league in scoring like we did in '79. I thought it could happen pre Bryant suspension but Bryant was not the same guy on the football field last year.

So, now it's Ben/AB/JuJu/McDonald/Bell/Washington... and (hopefully) as importantly a new OC.

I'm looking for Fichtner to unleash the Offense Kraken

Edit: I'm referring to what the 2018 offense could become by the end of the RS.


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 Post subject: Re: WR James Washington 2nd RND 60th Overall
PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 8:57 am 
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Does anybody remember the time that sprinter answered John Ross challenge that he could beat Bolt in a 40 yard dash?

I think his name was Coleman? Anyway he ran a 4.12 40 and obviously smoked that 4.22 combine time of Ross. The thing about sprinters and that track speed is that they are different animals and the ways in which the 40 yard dash and say the 100 meter sprint are conducted is just so different.

At the combine the player determines when he starts his 40. A sprinter has the blocks, has reaction time factored in to it because the start is out of his control, he can't just run when he wants to.

I bet if you had some blocks at the combine, and had 20 prospects lined up, the fastest WRs, RBs, CBs all lined up and they had to listen to an electronic beep before they started that 40 yard dash, I bet James Washington smokes the entire field. It is that track background that he ran in high school which probably would allow him to do that.

But, take a track athlete and then make him run a 40 yard dash with no blocks, no electronic beep, where he determines when he runs, and he runs alone, how is that any kind of measurement? It really sort of nullifies and neuters that track speed. I always thought it would be interesting to see 2, 3 or 4 prospects run their 40 times at the same time with an electronic beep at the start. Some players just will rise to the occasion, the competitive juices will flow, they may see somebody to either side that is ahead and they dig deep and pour it on. That would be more conducive to a game situation wouldn't it?

All I know is that he did run a 4.49 at his pro day if that matters to anybody. All I know is that his lower half is so powerful and his long strides allow him to eat up ground in a hurry and accelerate by people. I keep mentioning Bolt but how many times did you see other sprinters get out to a better start than him? Happened all the time but his long strides and acceleration throughout the sprint allowed him to overtake people and pull ahead. I see Washington able to do the same thing, he is a sprinter, has that track speed, is able to accelerate after 30 yards, 40 yards down the field.

You know what else I liked about him and some of those long pass plays. He was able to shrug off the defenders as they dove for his legs. I can't tell you how frustrating it was to watch Bryant and even Coates go down so easily with even a little contact.

Anyway, love the player and think it was a great pick. I also think that the Steelers were drafting a WR in round 2 or 3 regardless of whether they kept Bryant or not. It was not just a matter that they had to draft Washington because they dealt Bryant, I think it was always in the cards. Having only Brown and JuJu under contract for 2019 was forcing the issue, as well as the injury to Rogers and the fact that he isn't even signed.

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 Post subject: Re: WR James Washington 2nd RND 60th Overall
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They better let this kid on the field this year....glad we have someone to replace Tey.
This kid is really good. No problem with this pick.


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 Post subject: Re: WR James Washington 2nd RND 60th Overall
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punum123 wrote:
They better let this kid on the field this year....glad we have someone to replace Tey.
This kid is really good. No problem with this pick.


Unless he really shits the bed, he'll be the #3 from jump street.

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 Post subject: Re: WR James Washington 2nd RND 60th Overall
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SteelDrama wrote:
The Rudolph pick doesn’t bother me now but if Ben plays 3,more years as he’s stated it will.


If the dude ends up being a legit starter, how much can we complain. Rodgers sat on the bench for three years behind Favre. Rudolph ain’t ever going to be Rodgers, but why should an extended incubation period bother you if it the guy ends up being legit?

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 Post subject: Re: WR James Washington 2nd RND 60th Overall
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I think Rudolph is a steal where they drafted him even after trading up and then only spending a 7th RND selection to do so. I am happy the went up and got their player. Is he Ben's heir apparent like everyone's concluding to? Wait and See....


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 Post subject: Re: WR James Washington 2nd RND 60th Overall
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I am just glad that the Rudolph pick means Laundry Jones will be cut at the end of the preseason.

If you deem Mason as Ben's heir he has to be the #2 QB, Dobbs will be the #3. Jones is just awful, I know people continue to try and prop him up but he is just awful. Wins against Cleveland just don't impress me much.

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 Post subject: Re: WR James Washington 2nd RND 60th Overall
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was not sure of pic till I read your guys feelings..looks like a good one...all the chat on 40 times...these times so overrated..sure fast is fast but doesn't show on field on every down. brown doesn't have blazing speed; quickness with him. I don't know martavious bryants 40 time; but ive never seen a dude run faster and easily with open space. he wont be caught from behind till hes 30+. juju no burner but seems to have enough to stay ahead of most.. don't know bells speed in 40 but the dude cant out run anyone playing linebacker or secondary it seems.. 40 times and game speed are different..this pic looks like he has great game speed.


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 Post subject: Re: WR James Washington 2nd RND 60th Overall
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I was concerned they drafted another slow midget.

Then I saw his tape.

This guy can ball, and is a lot faster and bigger than appears. He's got explosive speed were he can turn on the jets and take off. And long arms are a great addition. I also like the fact that he looks for contact after the catch. He won't try to sidestep you, and will go through you. He's thick. Like JuJu. But I still wish there were a tall red zone target other than a TE. I'm not all that impressed with Justin Hunter, and DHB is insurance and a st guy.

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 Post subject: Re: WR James Washington 2nd RND 60th Overall
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COR-TEN wrote:
I was concerned they drafted another slow midget.

Then I saw his tape.

This guy can ball, and is a lot faster and bigger than appears. He's got explosive speed were he can turn on the jets and take off. And long arms are a great addition. I also like the fact that he looks for contact after the catch. He won't try to sidestep you, and will go through you. He's thick. Like JuJu. But I still wish there were a tall red zone target other than a TE. I'm not all that impressed with Justin Hunter, and DHB is insurance and a st guy.


Are we at the point if Steelers draft anyone at WR we should just trust them? Has to be close.


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 Post subject: Re: WR James Washington 2nd RND 60th Overall
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steelclan wrote:
COR-TEN wrote:
I was concerned they drafted another slow midget.

Then I saw his tape.

This guy can ball, and is a lot faster and bigger than appears. He's got explosive speed were he can turn on the jets and take off. And long arms are a great addition. I also like the fact that he looks for contact after the catch. He won't try to sidestep you, and will go through you. He's thick. Like JuJu. But I still wish there were a tall red zone target other than a TE. I'm not all that impressed with Justin Hunter, and DHB is insurance and a st guy.


Are we at the point if Steelers draft anyone at WR we should just trust them? Has to be close.
Remember when they used to be like that with Linebackers? Shazier notwithstanding. Watt is a work in progress. Dupree is a starter, but not anywhere in the realm of great steeler linebackers.

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 Post subject: Re: WR James Washington 2nd RND 60th Overall
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COR-TEN wrote:
steelclan wrote:
COR-TEN wrote:
I was concerned they drafted another slow midget.

Then I saw his tape.

This guy can ball, and is a lot faster and bigger than appears. He's got explosive speed were he can turn on the jets and take off. And long arms are a great addition. I also like the fact that he looks for contact after the catch. He won't try to sidestep you, and will go through you. He's thick. Like JuJu. But I still wish there were a tall red zone target other than a TE. I'm not all that impressed with Justin Hunter, and DHB is insurance and a st guy.


Are we at the point if Steelers draft anyone at WR we should just trust them? Has to be close.
Remember when they used to be like that with Linebackers? Shazier notwithstanding. Watt is a work in progress. Dupree is a starter, but not anywhere in the realm of great steeler linebackers.


To be fair that was also the time most teams ignored tweeners like Porter and Steelers had their choice at 3-4 OLB.


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 Post subject: Re: WR James Washington 2nd RND 60th Overall
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If it’s one thing in the draft they excel at is picking wide receivers that can play.
Secondary players not so much, and linebackers neither.


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 Post subject: Re: WR James Washington 2nd RND 60th Overall
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If it’s one thing in the draft they excel at is picking wide receivers that can play.
Secondary players not so much, and linebackers neither.



This.


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 Post subject: Re: WR James Washington 2nd RND 60th Overall
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Coaching not drafting. Let’s hope Drake continues the WR factory, but make note that he is taking over for Mann. Also let’s see if Bradley makes the drafting in the secondary better, make a not he is taking over for Lake. Will the “drafting” improve or decline?

Coaching and teaching make the drafts successful.


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 Post subject: Re: WR James Washington 2nd RND 60th Overall
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I wouldn't worry about Drake, he is in the same mold as Richard Mann, he will be fine.

Drakes resume:

WR coach Georgia 1992-1996. Hmmm. What WRs did he coach there I wonder? Hines Ward.

WR coach Texas 1998-2003. That produced Roy Williams for the NFL.

WR coach for Chicago 2004-2012. He had Bernard Berian, Johnny Knox, it was sad about Knox, had a spinal injury cut his career short. The Bears never really gave Drake much to work with but he coached up what he had and did a great job, ironic that they finally draft an Alshon Jeffrey and sign a Brandon Marshall and Drake moves on.

WR coach for Arizona 2013-2017. Yeah, Fitz was already established but Malcolm Floyd did well with Drake coaching him. As did John Brown.

I don't see any kind of drop off from Mann to Drake.

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 Post subject: Re: WR James Washington 2nd RND 60th Overall
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 Post subject: Re: WR James Washington 2nd RND 60th Overall
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Wide receiver James Washington said he models his game after Dez Bryant, and he displayed a few Dez qualities in Steelers rookie minicamp - burst after the catch and ability to secure the ball in traffic. Washington had a few indecisive moments running routes, but coach Mike Tomlin said the second-round pick made big plays on Day 2.


http://www.espn.com/nfl/team/_/name/pit/pittsburgh-steelers


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