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 Post subject: Re: Terrel Edmunds S Virginia Tech - 1st Round
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2018 7:26 pm 
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He looks like a football player in these highlights -- likes to hit and tackle - can cover



First play the QB doesn't see him at all on a forced 3rd and 17 throw, throws the ball directly to him, and he can't shake the first man he sees, a 270 pound TE. The highlight cuts off before he immediately fumbles the ball when tackled, which is fortunately recovered by a teammate that saved his ass. :P

I'm still waiting for someone to point out a game he was great in. I haven't seen it yet. I think the guy is a JAG. Straight line athlete with no COD and bad instincts.

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 Post subject: Re: Terrel Edmunds S Virginia Tech - 1st Round
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2018 9:09 pm 
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DB that fumbles after an int?!

OMG. DND!


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 Post subject: Re: Terrel Edmunds S Virginia Tech - 1st Round
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2018 10:51 pm 
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we shall see

he can hit and tackle -- i can see that on the "highlights"

Has excellent physical traits as well - very explosive athlete

Looking forward to preseason


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 Post subject: Re: Terrel Edmunds S Virginia Tech - 1st Round
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2018 11:07 pm 
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It's just the first time I can remember I've delved into a Steelers first round pick's tape and don't see much that I like. Not since Dupree certainly, and at least with Dupree he was a SPARQ god and had the excuse that he was a converted TE to DE, didn't have a LB coach at Kentucky, etc. I don't know, would love to be wrong, but to me he looks like a borderline day 2 into early day 3 guy. Hopefully they nailed it.

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 Post subject: Re: Terrel Edmunds S Virginia Tech - 1st Round
PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2018 6:49 am 
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It's just the first time I can remember I've delved into a Steelers first round pick's tape and don't see much that I like. Not since Dupree certainly, and at least with Dupree he was a SPARQ god and had the excuse that he was a converted TE to DE, didn't have a LB coach at Kentucky, etc. I don't know, would love to be wrong, but to me he looks like a borderline day 2 into early day 3 guy. Hopefully they nailed it.


This is where my hope that Tom Bradley is the DB coach answer to Mike Munchak comes in. The only reason I didn't totally lose my shit at the 3rd round OT pick is Coach Munch.


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 Post subject: Re: Terrel Edmunds S Virginia Tech - 1st Round
PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2018 7:36 am 
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These highlights do showcase some explosive ability. I also like his play on receivers over the middle on short crossers in key 3rd down situations. The INT where he played centerfield and caught the ball over his shoulder was nice.

That said, I went back and watched a lot of his film using Tremaine footage (lots of full game footage on his brother). The problem I saw was that Terrel did indeed seem to be a step or two late in making plays. His read/react time was quite poor. For a guy that is supposed to be a great communicator, coaches son, and know all the calls, I didn't see him anticipate or react that well.

Luckily, he seems like a good kid and a hard work guy, so perhaps he can be coached up to have better reaction to plays. But, it certainly is something to keep an eye on.


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 Post subject: Re: Terrel Edmunds S Virginia Tech - 1st Round
PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2018 7:52 am 
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The one thing we don't know is how they will use him as a rookie, or to what extent they may let him freelance. One thing about Polamalu is he was able to freelance, use his instincts, his great speed and athletic ability to blow plays up, to guess a lot, to even make mistakes knowing that Ryan Clark and others had his back and could clean up if he did guess wrong.

Even with Shazier, he did not really play like say a Luke Kuechly. Shazier was all about penetrating, gambling, meeting the RB not just in the hole, but before he even got a chance to enter the hole. At times it looked like he was over running plays, or missing tackles, but it sure seemed like it was all by design. They wanted Shazier to be the point man that forced the play to come undone, and often other players would come in behind and clean the play up.

With Edumunds, who knows maybe having Burnett allows Edmunds to be that gambling, freelancing player that the Steelers like to use in their defense. Burnett can be that QB of the defense that gets everybody lined up and allows Edmunds as a rookie to just play fast. I don't expect Edmunds to be able to do everything that Burnett can in year one, but I can't think of a better situation to be able to learn from Morgan and to see how he does it, in practice, during games, etc.

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 Post subject: Re: Terrel Edmunds S Virginia Tech - 1st Round
PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2018 9:03 am 
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These highlights do showcase some explosive ability. I also like his play on receivers over the middle on short crossers in key 3rd down situations. The INT where he played centerfield and caught the ball over his shoulder was nice.

That said, I went back and watched a lot of his film using Tremaine footage (lots of full game footage on his brother). The problem I saw was that Terrel did indeed seem to be a step or two late in making plays. His read/react time was quite poor. For a guy that is supposed to be a great communicator, coaches son, and know all the calls, I didn't see him anticipate or react that well.

Luckily, he seems like a good kid and a hard work guy, so perhaps he can be coached up to have better reaction to plays. But, it certainly is something to keep an eye on.


That was my biggest takeaway watching him.

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 Post subject: Re: Terrel Edmunds S Virginia Tech - 1st Round
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Duke is a pretty good example. It's hard to know exactly what his responsibilities are play to play-- is all over the place-- but he doesn't look particularly late or slow processing to me.


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 Post subject: Re: Terrel Edmunds S Virginia Tech - 1st Round
PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 7:16 am 
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Put 10 more pounds of muscle on him he's ILB sized but with the athleticism of a safety.


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 Post subject: Re: Terrel Edmunds S Virginia Tech - 1st Round
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Put 10 more pounds of muscle on him he's ILB sized but with the athleticism of a safety.


For some odd reason, you just gave me a Scott Shields flashback, SF.


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 Post subject: Re: Terrel Edmunds S Virginia Tech - 1st Round
PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 2:15 pm 
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Steelafan77 wrote:
Put 10 more pounds of muscle on him he's ILB sized but with the athleticism of a safety.


For some odd reason, you just gave me a Scott Shields flashback, SF.


Come on, not after lunch.

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 Post subject: Re: Terrel Edmunds S Virginia Tech - 1st Round
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The Steelers are putting first-round safety Terrell Edmunds' versatility to the test early in rookie minicamp. Edmunds (No. 34), who looks every bit of 217 pounds, said he played safety and linebacker snaps for the defense. He's also getting to show his leadership by making a few defensive calls. "You can't think that you are a first-round pick and everything is going to fall to you," Edmunds said. "I come out here and compete every day."


http://www.espn.com/nfl/team/_/name/pit/pittsburgh-steelers


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 Post subject: Re: Terrel Edmunds S Virginia Tech - 1st Round
PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2018 11:31 am 
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PFF take on the Steelers draft



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 Post subject: Re: Terrel Edmunds S Virginia Tech - 1st Round
PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2018 5:18 pm 
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Can't disagree with any of that. Edmunds is the biggest gamble Colbert/Tomlin have ever taken in the first round. He's got big time bust potential. Hopefully they can coach him up ( :? ) because he wasn't a great player in college.

Washington was the most productive WR in D1, looked great at the Senior Bowl, and is a classic great value pick at the end of the second. Rudolph is the best QB they've drafted since Ben. Time will tell if he's got franchise QB potential but I love the way he carries himself and how he handled the drama Ben threw his way right after he was drafted. People saying we should've drafted an ILB just for the sake of drafting an ILB at Rudolph's spot and that drafting a QB is a waste of a pick are so off base. Our starting QB is 36, is one more bad hit to the head or knee injury from probably never being the same player again or possibly calling it a career, and you're going to bash them using a third round pick on someone they feel has franchise QB potential? :lol: okay. Thank god you're not running this team. If he hits, awesome, we've got out next guy. If not, keep plugging away. I said a year or two ago we should be drafting a QB every year. You don't keep your job by letting the most important position in the game go unaddressed, wait til Ben retires, lose a shitload of games with the thought of "Oh well, we're just find a QB early in the draft and let the rookie step into leading our now awful team." Um, no.

Okorafor is a pile of clay, Allen is a JAG who might not make the 53, Samuels is easily their most interesting day 3 guy and hopefully carves out a role for himself, and Frazier will probably be cut.

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 Post subject: Re: Terrel Edmunds S Virginia Tech - 1st Round
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One guy with Jeri-curl and another with a man-bun. I'm not the biggest Tombert fan but I'll trust them more than these two twats...


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 Post subject: Re: Terrel Edmunds S Virginia Tech - 1st Round
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We have to admit they [Colbert/Tomlin] haven't exactly been killing it at the safety position or for that matter the edge rusher position either. They're fallible just as anyone is. These two 'twats' bring a non-Steeler fan [unbiased] perspective and is why I even posted it. Moreover, Doesn't matter how you wear your hair it's what's inside your head. They were talking football in my opinion.


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 Post subject: Re: Terrel Edmunds S Virginia Tech - 1st Round
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 6:50 pm 
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Steelafan77 wrote:
We have to admit they [Colbert/Tomlin] haven't exactly been killing it at the safety position or for that matter the edge rusher position either. They're fallible just as anyone is. These two 'twats' bring a non-Steeler fan [unbiased] perspective and is why I even posted it. Moreover, Doesn't matter how you wear your hair it's what's inside your head. They were talking football in my opinion.


But der it's PFF der.

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 Post subject: Re: Terrel Edmunds S Virginia Tech - 1st Round
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 6:55 pm 
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It's an unbiased breakdown DER! You don't like it let me suggest putting my posts on ignore jackass.


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 Post subject: Re: Terrel Edmunds S Virginia Tech - 1st Round
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Steelafan77 wrote:
It's an unbiased breakdown DER! You don't like it let me suggest putting my posts on ignore jackass.


...I was making fun of the people who automatically dismiss PFF and actually agreed with your post. Thought it was a great video and breakdown and appreciated you for sharing it.

Should use the sarca smiley. :oops: 8-)

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