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 Post subject: Okay, So We Can Narrow Down The 1st Round Pick
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 11:51 am 
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MOST LIKELY:
Pro Day dinner (Colbert tried to attend LVE dinner/pro day but couldn't because of weather), expected to be drafted before 2.60, position of need.

LB Leighton Vander Esch, Boise State
RB Darius Guice, LSU
S Jesse Bates, Wake Forest
LB Rashaan Evans, Alabama
S Ronnie Harrison, Alabama
QB Lamar Jackson, Louisville
QB Mason Rudolph, Oklahoma State
WR James Washington, Oklahoma State
TE Mike Gesicki, Penn State
EDGE Sam Hubbard, Ohio State
CB Denzel Ward, Ohio State
NT Da’Ron Payne, Alabama

A REAL POSSIBILITY:
Attended pro day. May have had unreported dinner. Either a need fit or expected 1st/early 2nd rounder.

LB/EDGE Lorenzo Carter, Georgia
RB Sony Michel, Georgia
LB Arden Key, LSU
CB Donte Jackson, LSU
C Billy Price, Ohio State
CB Jaire Alexander, Louisville
RB Nick Chubb, Georgia
CB Tony Brown, Alabama

UNLIKELY BUT CAN'T BE RULED OUT:
Attended pro day or (Reid) came out to say not attending pro day was not a sign to read into. Either not a position of need or not expected to be drafted before 2.60.

DL Tim Settle, Virginia Tech
C J.C. Hassenauer, Alabama
S Tremaine Edmunds, Virginia Tech
S Justin Reid, Stanford
EDGE Duke Ejiofor, Wake Forest
WR Marcel Ateman, Oklahoma State
S Marcus Allen, Penn State
LB Jerome Baker, Ohio State
S Tre Flowers, Oklahoma State

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 Post subject: Re: Okay, So We Can Narrow Down The 1st Round Pick
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:03 pm 
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Having a list of nearly 30 possibilities ranked into groups of high/medium/low probability stretches the definition of the words "narrow down" beyond all meaning, B2B. 8-)

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 Post subject: Re: Okay, So We Can Narrow Down The 1st Round Pick
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:29 pm 
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Let's not forget that many will go before 28.

Also, it's really the 12 in the first list that are most likely. The next 8 are possibilities that can't be discounted, if the board falls a certain way. If I had to bet, though, I'd take that first list of 12 and give you the field.

I also think these guys are a stretch:

WR James Washington, Oklahoma State
TE Mike Gesicki, Penn State
EDGE Sam Hubbard, Ohio State
CB Denzel Ward, Ohio State

So, that leaves 8, plus the remote possibility that some outlier at a position of need falls (like Edmunds, Roquan, Minkah, maybe Derwin)

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 Post subject: Re: Okay, So We Can Narrow Down The 1st Round Pick
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I look at that and I see this order:

Barkley
Edmunds
Minkah
Alexander
LVE
Guice
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Bates
Evans
Harrison
Rudolph
Carter
Michel
Key
Reid
Jackson
Chubb

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 Post subject: Re: Okay, So We Can Narrow Down The 1st Round Pick
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:26 pm 
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
MOST LIKELY:
Pro Day dinner (Colbert tried to attend LVE dinner/pro day but couldn't because of weather), expected to be drafted before 2.60, position of need.

LB Leighton Vander Esch, Boise State
RB Darius Guice, LSU
S Jesse Bates, Wake Forest
LB Rashaan Evans, Alabama
S Ronnie Harrison, Alabama
QB Lamar Jackson, Louisville
QB Mason Rudolph, Oklahoma State
WR James Washington, Oklahoma State
TE Mike Gesicki, Penn State
EDGE Sam Hubbard, Ohio State
CB Denzel Ward, Ohio State
NT Da’Ron Payne, Alabama

A REAL POSSIBILITY:
Attended pro day. May have had unreported dinner. Either a need fit or expected 1st/early 2nd rounder.

LB/EDGE Lorenzo Carter, Georgia
RB Sony Michel, Georgia
LB Arden Key, LSU
CB Donte Jackson, LSU
C Billy Price, Ohio State
CB Jaire Alexander, Louisville
RB Nick Chubb, Georgia
CB Tony Brown, Alabama

UNLIKELY BUT CAN'T BE RULED OUT:
Attended pro day or (Reid) came out to say not attending pro day was not a sign to read into. Either not a position of need or not expected to be drafted before 2.60.

DL Tim Settle, Virginia Tech
C J.C. Hassenauer, Alabama
S Tremaine Edmunds, Virginia Tech
S Justin Reid, Stanford
EDGE Duke Ejiofor, Wake Forest
WR Marcel Ateman, Oklahoma State
S Marcus Allen, Penn State
LB Jerome Baker, Ohio State
S Tre Flowers, Oklahoma State



GREAT list B2B.

So, LVE is going to be gone.
That will leave us with these realistic options at 1.28 IMO.

Reid
Bates
Evans
Harrison
Payne

I just don't see QB or RB going in the 1st for us. I think you can scratch out Harrison since we already have a guy very similar to him in Davis.
Payne will most likely be gone but I'll keep him in the mix.
I'm apt to going with one of the safety's. I like Bates center-field skill-set but Reid can do most anything you need in a S.
He is the guy I'm leaning towards in rd 1.

We have to get a good ILB that can cover at least fairly. I'm looking at Leonard, Nwosu, Avary, Burks in rd 2-3.


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 Post subject: Re: Okay, So We Can Narrow Down The 1st Round Pick
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:52 pm 
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They're not picking Justin Reid at 1.28, so you can let that one go.

Burks is strictly a STs guy... think L.J. Fort, or maybe Sylvester Stevenson.

Avery can't play well in space... he's an edge guy in the NFL, and probably pretty good at that.

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I really hope L. Carter is in play at 1.28.


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 Post subject: Re: Okay, So We Can Narrow Down The 1st Round Pick
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Ice wrote:
I really hope L. Carter is in play at 1.28.

I think he is... but other guys would have to be gone. Carter is definitely no lock to be gone before 2.60.

EDIT: I just went to the 4 best rankings that I know of: nfl draft scout, Rang, Brugler, & Zierlein. The average ranking for him is(40+86+47+49)/4= 55.5

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I think you can take Guice off your list. That's a smokescreen. We can debate and whine about pulling Bell's tag, but that's not how PIT operates. And so they arent taking RB in R1.

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 Post subject: Re: Okay, So We Can Narrow Down The 1st Round Pick
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Kodiak wrote:
I think you can take Guice off your list. That's a smokescreen. We can debate and whine about pulling Bell's tag, but that's not how PIT operates. And so they arent taking RB in R1.

However, they DO draft for next year... meaning RB, WR, OG, & OLB are in play.

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