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 Post subject: Re: Patriots Trade Brandin Cooks
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 10:29 pm 
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I agree completely with you Jobus Rum!!

Evans to me look like a real small player. You look at the upper half of his body, he has narrow shoulders and short arms, his upper half looks like that of a cornerback. He is a shade under 6'2" and weighs 232 and I think he is maxed out, there is nowhere for him to add weight. Then you look at his 40 time or lack thereof, what is he hiding? I think he is hiding a slow 4.75-4.8 40. He did run a 4.36 short shuttle at the combine which is terrible, he did jump at the combine, and that 30 inches for the vertical is terrible too.

I see him as another Jarvis Jones type. A terrible athlete who had some production in college because of the scheme and talent around him. Just like with Jones, I saw highlight after highlight of Evans where he is coming up and making a big tackle or sack and he is literally untouched. Well, shit, maybe I could have played at 'Bama too if I could just run around untouched and never had to fight off a block.

I would not touch him in the first 3 rounds.

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 Post subject: Re: Patriots Trade Brandin Cooks
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 10:45 pm 
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bradshaw2ben wrote:
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If the fucking Rams win a ring before we do; I swear to Christ...

I wouldn’t sweat it until they get a different QB.




cmon b2b he totally proved you wrong last season...i wont call him great but hes pretty damn good,,you can definitley win a SB with him


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 Post subject: Re: Patriots Trade Brandin Cooks
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:08 am 
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I'm not impressed at all with cooks and quite frankly don't understand all the hype for this guy. A first round selection for a guy who was essentially invisible last season in cheatland is a huge steal for the cheats. lambs are either stupid or desperate. Likely a little of both. JMO

Side Note: If your trading away your 65 receptions for 1000+ yard WR that you traded for just last season, what's really going on? Damaged Goods?


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 Post subject: Re: Patriots Trade Brandin Cooks
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:31 am 
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GreekSteel wrote:
bradshaw2ben wrote:
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If the fucking Rams win a ring before we do; I swear to Christ...

I wouldn’t sweat it until they get a different QB.




cmon b2b he totally proved you wrong last season...i wont call him great but hes pretty damn good,,you can definitley win a SB with him

Last year proved to me that Sean McVay is a great coach. That thing of talking in Goff’s ear until they shut off the headset was great. In the postseason Goff was a significant reason they didn’t advance— just isn’t a guy to make clutch plays vs great defense. I think there will be a leveling off of Goff’s play this year, and he will continue to be a nice regular season player.

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 Post subject: Re: Patriots Trade Brandin Cooks
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:36 am 
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Steelafan77 wrote:
I'm not impressed at all with cooks and quite frankly don't understand all the hype for this guy. A first round selection for a guy who was essentially invisible last season in cheatland is a huge steal for the cheats. lambs are either stupid or desperate. Likely a little of both. JMO

Side Note: If your trading away your 65 receptions for 1000+ yard WR that you traded for just last season, what's really going on? Damaged Goods?


Pats tried to work a deal with him, it was going nowhere so they cut bait.

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 Post subject: Re: Patriots Trade Brandin Cooks
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 9:43 am 
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GreekSteel wrote:
bradshaw2ben wrote:
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If the fucking Rams win a ring before we do; I swear to Christ...

I wouldn’t sweat it until they get a different QB.




cmon b2b he totally proved you wrong last season...i wont call him great but hes pretty damn good,,you can definitley win a SB with him

Last year proved to me that Sean McVay is a great coach. That thing of talking in Goff’s ear until they shut off the headset was great. In the postseason Goff was a significant reason they didn’t advance— just isn’t a guy to make clutch plays vs great defense. I think there will be a leveling off of Goff’s play this year, and he will continue to be a nice regular season player.[/quote]



You can most definitely win with him as your QB...and i agree McVay is a great coach.


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 Post subject: Re: Patriots Trade Brandin Cooks
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 9:48 am 
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I agree with Steelafan, I have never been impressed with Cooks. So, now he is working on his 3rd team in as many years.

I think people need to simmer down about McVay, it is real easy to look great in year one, there is not a book on you yet, you catch everybody by surprise. Remember Chip Kelly's first season?

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 Post subject: Re: Patriots Trade Brandin Cooks
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McVay seems hungry, innovative, not content with resting on his laurels.

Basically the opposite of our dumbass coach. Oh, did someone want me to turn this into a Tomlin-bashing thread?

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 Post subject: Re: Patriots Trade Brandin Cooks
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and he will continue to be a nice regular season player.


Kinda like us then. A nice regular season team...


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 Post subject: Re: Patriots Trade Brandin Cooks
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:38 pm 
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Orangesteel wrote:
McVay seems hungry, innovative, not content with resting on his laurels.

Basically the opposite of our dumbass coach. Oh, did someone want me to turn this into a Tomlin-bashing thread?

:lol:


I'm no Tomlin fan, but giving up a 1st for Cooks is pretty dumb.


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 Post subject: Re: Patriots Trade Brandin Cooks
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 7:34 pm 
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Orangesteel wrote:
McVay seems hungry, innovative, not content with resting on his laurels.

Basically the opposite of our dumbass coach. Oh, did someone want me to turn this into a Tomlin-bashing thread?

:lol:


How can anyone call a guy a "great coach" after one year? The Rams have high day one or day talent all over that roster. They were playing with a 3rd place schedule and the 17th weakest strength of schedule in the league. Dude has no laurels to rest on because he has done nothing other than to take Jeff Fischer's players and get them to produce.

Really going to be interesting to see how this year goes, they have essentially the 80s Raiders on defense. They just collected every problem player they can get their hands on and put what amounts to a substitute teacher in charge of them- how is this NOT going to blow up in their faces? Suddenly Peters and Suh and Talib are going to be model citizens? Don't hold your breath. This will be a powder keg that everyone hopes goes off- because it will make great drama (it is LA after all) .

I will go on record and say if they do not win the division or make the Conference championship game McVay will be fired.

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 Post subject: Re: Patriots Trade Brandin Cooks
PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:09 pm 
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The best thing McVay did was bring in Wade Phillips to coach his defense. That was huge. Phillips will have no problem with Talib, they were together in Denver after all. In fact Phillips more than any DC out there is able to squeeze the best out of every player he has ever had, just a fact. He is able to come in cold, and turn around a defense in his first year with no effort at all.

I see the offense falling back down to earth, McVay's bread and butter. Defenses will adjust to what he was doing last year, just as team's adjusted to Chip Kelly and his offenses.

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 Post subject: Re: Patriots Trade Brandin Cooks
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And once again some team falls all over themselves to give the Pats a first round pick for a player who's not worth it. Seriously, WTF is wrong with these teams?

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 Post subject: Re: Patriots Trade Brandin Cooks
PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:28 am 
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And once again some team falls all over themselves to give the Pats a first round pick for a player who's not worth it. Seriously, WTF is wrong with these teams?

It’s like they go brain dead when they pick up and hear Belicheck on the other end of the line...

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 Post subject: Re: Patriots Trade Brandin Cooks
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Someone over there in cheatville has espn and can read dumbasses minds... oh wait..., did I word that incorrectly? I meant Esper/ESP. They listen for ..., God I wish [name player] was on my team. I'd give anything! They go fleece those dumbass' and then they sit around afterwards and laugh at them. DUMBASS!


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 Post subject: Re: Patriots Trade Brandin Cooks
PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:18 am 
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Scunge wrote:
The best thing McVay did was bring in Wade Phillips to coach his defense. That was huge. Phillips will have no problem with Talib, they were together in Denver after all. In fact Phillips more than any DC out there is able to squeeze the best out of every player he has ever had, just a fact. He is able to come in cold, and turn around a defense in his first year with no effort at all.

I see the offense falling back down to earth, McVay's bread and butter. Defenses will adjust to what he was doing last year, just as team's adjusted to Chip Kelly and his offenses.


That team is built for a coach like Parcells a grizzled no-nonsense guy who has a track record for winning- not a guy that is in his 2nd year after having ONE good year. He doesn't have the culture set up to allow vets to come in and buy-in- because what are they buying into?

Yes, I agree getting Phillips was a great move, Phillips can only get these malcontent players to play and buy in as long as the team is winning. But he is installing at least 4 new players as starters on defense. At least 2 of them are known "freelancers" which teammates HATE. Not being where you are supposed to be when you're supposed to be intentionally is going to cause a lot of problems- especially when they get torched- repeatedly.

Look if McVay can get through the season with his hair intact and they get to the SB I will eat my words- but I have seen this movie before and it ends in people saying the same thing

"WTF was that?"

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